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HeliHobby . Ron’s HeliProz South . Century Helicopter

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Century Hawk - Falcon - Raven - Predator > Century Gasser Buildup-UPDATED Feb '06
 
 
AGRAV8
rrProfessor
Location: Mosquito Coast......Houston Texas

do this:

unhook the servo's from the bellcranks (the #1 and 6 servo's) leaving the elevator servo attached.

The bellcrank for the elevator should be straight up and down. If you have the push/pull elevator setup, imagine a line that goes between the two balls..that should be vertical. Set the elevator servo so it is at mid stick (on a linear pitch curve). This is your base reference point. Note the elevator A arm is in a fixed position. In other words, you cannot adjust the length (well, you CAN a little with the metal elevator A arm, and I do....I turn the link OUT 1 1/2 turns) But we are assuming it is the HD plastic A arm.

Now, with the throttle at mid stick, do this:

the SINGLE attachment arm of the aileron/pitch levers should be made HORIZONTAL. Make it so with the servo wheels/position of the ball/and last resort, subtrim. Both sides need to be set.

Make up the pushrods from the single attachment arm up to the 120 degree points of the swash. Adjust these rods until the swashplate is level.

The two smallest pushrods on the head.....turn these IN until the ball links ALMOST touch.

Adjust the medium length pushrods so the washout assembly arms are horizontal to each other.

Adjust the longest pushrods so the blades are at ZERO degrees.

You SHOULD come up with about +/- 12 degrees total. Go to swash AFR, reduce PITCH so you get 10 degrees top and bottom. ( I kinda cheat, and leave 12 on top myself....comes in handy if an unexpected auto pops up).

after you get the pitch range set, go back to mid stick (ZERO degrees) and check cyclic deflection. 6 is fine, both roll and elevator.

THAT ought to get you rolling.

Oh, I almost forgot the "disclaimer"......YOUR results MAY vary.

GOOD guy list-39, BAD guy list-0
03-28-2006 Over year old.
 
 
modifyit15
Veteran
Location: wilmington, NC

Done, got it, cool -13-+13.
set for N-10-+10; st1&2 -10-+12
-+6 at hover (inverted&level)
thanks , now for first flight in the morning. any suggestions?
never flew a gasser before. this thing is built like a 3500 chevy. does it fly like one?

Heli DOC
03-28-2006 Over year old.
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modifyit15
Veteran
Location: wilmington, NC

I found a fuel clunk from my old Ryobi weed eater, its like a hard white substance with a plastic tube in the middle with a whole in it. the hard substance thing soaks up fuel like a spounge, and sucks the tank completely dry.
just thought Id let you guys know

Heli DOC
03-28-2006 Over year old.
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helibad
Senior Heliman
Location: Cameron Park, CA

Deadhorse?

I know there has been enough garbage written about the Cluth-fan run out; I almost feel like I'm beating a deadhorse bringing it back up again.

However, I've found different tolerences in the run-out of the clutch fan. I did manage to get almost perfect run-out on the outside of the fan. However, on the inner parts of the clutch hub, I found that the tolerences were past the .002" at the area where the hole were drilled for the clutch. I assume this is from the pressure the drillpress put on the inner-hub. Well below the holes, the runout became true again.

My advice is to clean both the output shaft of the motor & inner hub and use light oil (like the directions stated). Tighten the bolt well before checking the run-out. When checking the run-out, you better have the engine very secure in a vice & the dial indicater on a rock-solid mount. Be sure to check the run-out in several places for the best piece of mind.

Good luck!
05-23-2006 Over year old.
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Jetset
Senior Heliman
Location: Picton, Ontario Canada

Gearing ratio

Maybe it's because it's it's midnight or I am just stupid, but I just went through this thread and couldn't find any mention of the gear ratio on the stock Pred gas. I'm trying to set up my GV-1 and I need to input the ratio.
Could someone please help my fried brain on this??
THANKS!
Myles

Howzitgoin' eh? Goin' fast in the "Great White North"
06-21-2006 Over year old.
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rcadd1ct
Elite Veteran
Location: Richardson, Texas

Count the spur gear and then divide in the pinion.

It will give you the ratio you seek.

-RCA .......... Making Cuisinarts Fly!!!!!!!
06-21-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Jetset
Senior Heliman
Location: Picton, Ontario Canada

Gearing

Yeah, I was lazy last night and thought maybe someone might know off hand. Will count today.
Myles

Howzitgoin' eh? Goin' fast in the "Great White North"
06-21-2006 Over year old.
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rcadd1ct
Elite Veteran
Location: Richardson, Texas

Depends on where you got the kit and which one you got.

Lots of different pinions and spurs. Only way to be sure is to count teeth.

If you have not mounted the spur the tooth count is under the bevel gear.

-RCA .......... Making Cuisinarts Fly!!!!!!!
06-21-2006 Over year old.
 
 
modifyit15
Veteran
Location: wilmington, NC

my predator (got it from century)is 15/88 5.86 this ratio sucks.

Heli DOC
06-21-2006 Over year old.
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rcadd1ct
Elite Veteran
Location: Richardson, Texas

So does the 8.27 ratio on my rap 90.

That is why I am going to change it tonight when I get home.

-RCA .......... Making Cuisinarts Fly!!!!!!!
06-21-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Helimech
Heliman
Location: Galveston, Texas

Predator SE Update

It looks like Century has upgraded at least the Predator SE.....just got mine last week; discovered that it now comes with the Super Duty clutch, right from the git-go! Way to go, Century!!!

AR-15........the REAL homeland defense league!
07-14-2006 Over year old.
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AceBird
Elite Veteran
Location: Utica, NY USA

something tells me they pack what they have in stock in order not to back order a kit. I had a thrust bearing in my standard kit that is supposed to be an up grade. I wouldn't bank on what you get in a kit unless it is published and even then as you noted there could be variences.
Ace

Ace
What could be more fun?
07-15-2006 Over year old.
 
 
JakeDaSnake
Senior Heliman
Location: Mobile AL

Guys I just want to say THANKS for this thread! its helping me A LOT in the biuldup of my Carbon Gasser...

AceBird: That alignment trick works awesome!

Thanks,
Jake

Jake Wiggins: AMA 856496
07-28-2006 Over year old.
 
 
rcrebel
Senior Heliman
Location: Michigan

I'm setting up the pitch on the blades w/pitch gauge. What do you guys use to keep the flybar "level" to get an accurate reading on the gauge? Any tips to offer on setting up pitch?

Thanks,
rcrebel
07-28-2006 Over year old.
 
 
AceBird
Elite Veteran
Location: Utica, NY USA

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What do you guys use to keep the flybar "level" to get an accurate reading on the gauge?




It has been modified slightly so I don't need anything to hold it on but the concept is the same. It is not hard to make but the button on top must be flat. The flat surface is also required for a bubble level for calibrating my CoPilot.

ACe

Ace
What could be more fun?
07-28-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Mike48
Heliman
Location: Mount Vernon Wahington

Ace bird I see you have a auto piolet of some sort back ther can you enlighten me about type and how well it works?????
07-29-2006 Over year old.
 
 
AceBird
Elite Veteran
Location: Utica, NY USA



I added this other picture so you can see how I routed my antenna. It goes right out the stick to the orange ball which gets it away from all HT rf. Then I found out about the opto isolators and added them too. Note though you must use a separate battery just for the reciever because rf can come through the battery that powers the servos.

Although I did not have failsafe issues when doing ground checks prescribed by Nathan (FMA) I found that the range with the engine running was a lot less (1/2) than the range without the engine running. The difference he said is the HT from the egnition even though it is quite some distance from the plug. It can come through any and all wiring.

Now with all this testing I found out that my brand new Spectra module is only 1/2 as good as another module I had for 6 years that was used in a Prism. That surprised the hell out of me. At any rate FMA will tune the module / receiver for free, which I will do in the fall when my season is over.

This morning I got a quick flight in (15min) with the changed module and didn't register one frame loss. I am convinced it is sound.

How does it work? For me it is fantastic.

I would like to try the AP2000i just as a comparison because others say it is so much better (I don't know how it could be better) but it has in my opinion a very bad loss of sensor reaction.

The Heli Comand runs from gyros that we all know have problems from time to time be it vibration related or RF related so I can't see going that way for a long term solution to stabilization.

The disadvantage of using the FS8 (for some people) is you can't use PCM.

Good luck with what ever you try.

Ace

Ace
What could be more fun?
07-29-2006 Over year old.
 
 
bernie
Heliman
Location: Haltwhistle, UK

A frame query

Hi All
There is no doubt that without this thread i would not have got a far as i have without due stress, so many thnaks for all the valuable input. So, I have a question about the A frame that has been discussed from day one about it being replaced for the metal one, it would seem from the comments that this is a major important upgrade, If this is so important why have Century not replaced it themselves as proved by recent purchase last week in that it still contains the plastic one?
Many thanks all
Bernie
12-30-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Helimech
Heliman
Location: Galveston, Texas

Upgrades

Bernie....in many cases, it is the same as with car dealers; you don't make that much on the initial sale, but the upgrades pay the bills.

AR-15........the REAL homeland defense league!
12-30-2006 Over year old.
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SteveH
rrProfessor
Location: Texas

The original plastic elvator "A" arm had a problem and several failed. Century redesigned the "A" arm, made it stronger, and did testing to prove it was stronger, but once ideas get into modelers heads, they stay there. And, yes I have the aluminum "A" arms on my two Predators. It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.

SteveH
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AMA76186
12-30-2006 Over year old.
 
 
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