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e-Miniature Aircraft Furion - Razor - Ion-X > $$1,300 for an ION !!!!
 
 
Ray Fernandez
Key Veteran
Location: Guam (U.S.A.)

Whoa.................I just saw the pricing on Rick's. He is taking pre-orders and when I clicked on the site, my jaw dropped at the price for an electric

Ray Fernandez - GUAM
02-13-2004 Over year old.
 
 
z11355
rrMaster
Location: 10000 is enough time wasted.

yea but thats including a Hacker motor and ESC.

Thats a $400+ adder right there.

And dont forget the $$$$$$$$$$$ batteries
02-13-2004 Over year old.
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shootist
Senior Heliman
Location: New York State, East Coast US

That's about the same price as a good kit with an OS 70, maybe. Then you buy the batteries, which is like buying three hundred flights of 30% Coolpower all at once.
This hobby is not for the faint of heart, or weak of wallet.
02-13-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Horacio
Veteran
Location: Mexifornia

Yeah, I looked at that too. I figured it would be about $2500 to get set up in electric-2 batts seem necessary if one likes to fly a lot. I really like the idea of no mess, no pipe, tank, gov, plugs, fuel, needles, starter etc. It's something different when someone tells me I can get 350 flights from a battery. I've never stopped and thought how many flights I could get from a YS .91. Don't get me wrong, 350 is a lot, but we never refer to our motors giving us x amount of flights. I think I will sit back and watch how this unfolds and possibly by the end of the year get into it.
02-13-2004 Over year old.
 
 
SolarXtreme
Veteran
Location: Arroyo Grande, CA

Don't let electrics fool you. They are as expensive or more than nitro heli's. You save money on gas but you gotta spend at least a good $500-1000 in batteries chargers etc.. Any electric venture I have been through has been less than satisfactory. Although Minature has done there homework on this bird and it should fly radical 3D straight from the box. Most e-helis in the past have been drastically short of my expectations without requiring an additional $500 in upgrades.
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I picked a hell of a day to quit drinking

Avant EFX
Freya EVO
02-13-2004 Over year old.
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rob_jones
Key Veteran
Location: Oglethorpe, GA

One definately does not go electric to save money!

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I reject your reality and substitute my own.
02-13-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Ray Fernandez
Key Veteran
Location: Guam (U.S.A.)

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One definately does not go electric to save money!


I wholeheartedly agree and like shootist said, this hobby is not for the faint of heart or weak of wallet

Ray Fernandez - GUAM
02-13-2004 Over year old.
 
 
dannyfyl
Senior Heliman
Location: Miri, Malaysia

I have a weak wallet... and where the hell the Fury Gasser?
02-14-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Inspector Fuzz
Veteran
Location: My own private Idaho.

Hmmm.. Electric..

This is the first model from MA in a long time, that has sparked (pun intended ) my interest.. I realize that it is quite a bit more expensive than a fuel powered.. However, there is such a thing as paying for comfort.. I.e. how much time do you spend cleaning that nasty, greasy heli after a day of flying?? For me, it has got to be worth at least $5 per time.. Maybe $10? My car doesn't get filthy and my basement does'nt have that strange smell.. Plus, no engine tunimg and no excessive noise...
JEFF
02-14-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Optech
Key Veteran
Location: Vista/Oceanside, CA.

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and where the hell the Fury Gasser?


Yeah!...... What he said

If a couple of Li-Poly battery packs are about $650-800, that equals ALOT of gallons of gasoline. There is no mess to clean up really but you do have the smell, tuning, noise. I can live with that .

Mike

Viva La Airtronics!
02-14-2004 Over year old.
 
 
DOKEY
rrProfessor
Location: Northampton UK

Over here the importer wants £1249.99 for the kit, motor and speed control and £269.99 for the batts, two of them required(8000mah) = £1789.97 roughly around $3221.95.



Check the gallery!
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Ray Fernandez
Key Veteran
Location: Guam (U.S.A.)

So maybe I shouldn't be complaining too much..............you think???

I do like the idea of a "cleaner" machine, without the hassle of the residual oils and fuel. But I would sure miss the smell of the fuel as it is burning!

Ray Fernandez - GUAM
02-14-2004 Over year old.
 
 
learjetcb
Senior Heliman
Location: Topeka ks. usa

so does the ion take two batteries to run it
02-15-2004 Over year old.
 
 
vetrider
Elite Veteran
Location: Daleville, AL (Ft.Rucker)

HEY TONY

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fixing to take another tomorrow night with 55 volts under the hood


Don't burn the gym down!!!

Magnum Fuel
02-15-2004 Over year old.
 
 
DOKEY
rrProfessor
Location: Northampton UK

Thats how it is advertised here, but is probably just how he gets them in ?

Check the gallery!
02-15-2004 Over year old.
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vitek
Key Veteran
Location: Corvallis, OR

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so does the ion take two batteries to run it?


Yes, 2 packs, one on each side of the airframe. Here are the packs on http://www.ronlund.com

http://www.ronlund.com/Merchant2/me..._Code=MA124-160
http://www.ronlund.com/Merchant2/me..._Code=MA124-150

In case you haven't seen them, here are the pics on http://www.x-cellrchelicopters.com

Ion-X 1
Ion-X 2
Ion-X 3
Ion-X 4

Travis
02-15-2004 Over year old.
 
 
corey11
Elite Veteran
Location: Bay Area, California

I am really thinking about the Ionx...It actually isnt that bad of a deal. For 1300 dollars, you get the Hacker motor, and speed controller..thats around 400 bucks right there. So the kit is really around 900 dollars. Plus, if im not mistaken, it comes with carbon fiber frames.

Yes batteries are around 600 dollars, but you are buying ALL your fuel right there. And they get around 350 plus flights out of them...can a YS 91, or OS 91 do 350 flights with out losing alot of power? i HIGHLY doubt it...You could go threw 2 YS 91, or OS 91 engines in 350 flights...So theres 600 right there....Plus, With electric, you dont need to buy glow plugs, fuel line, and mufflers if you crash and dent them. Very litttle vibration in electric helis, they are quiet, and NO starting equipment. It will cost around 2500 bucks flying, but my Fury Extreme has costed me around 27-2800. Im not saying im upset at all over it, i would do it agin in a heart beat.....

i really think it would be nice to go to the flying feild with just your radio, heli, batteries, and charger...maybe a like 3-4 tools to make sure everything it still tight...And if anyone is thinking about that the Hacker motor will wear out before the batteries...no..it wont. Its brushless and will run for a VERY long time before you need to get a new one..You would go threw many battery packs before you even thought about getting a new Hacker.
02-15-2004 Over year old.
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Temjin
Senior Heliman
Location: Walnut CA, HsinChu Taiwan

Don't consider crash as an option, the battery is just too expensive to be crashed.
02-15-2004 Over year old.
 
 
corey11
Elite Veteran
Location: Bay Area, California

Then dont crash it

If i got the Ionx, i wouldnt really do anything 'new' with it...id do it all with my extreme..the IonX to me, would be a 'go to the feild and not really bring anything with you' helicopter
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KC
Elite Veteran
Location: WA

I dont think it is fair to compare this machine to a 90, which it isnt

This machine is not a deal over a 90!

everyone keeps taking the cost of the batteries and dividing by the number of cycles. doesnt work that way.

advertised cycle figures are always figured for an ideal deal (lab).
battery life is limited in time (like fuel) and by cycles

hardly anyone gets 500 flights without a crash (in which these packs could easily be damaged) and a high cycled battery is only safe for about a year or two atmost.

if it going to be 3-d like the JK video, most people crash bad when crashing from doing that stuff wrong, expect battery damage.

two sets is of batts is the minimum if you intend to fly it regularly....3-4 flights at a time. one set of batteries wouldnt be much fun when the charge runs out and the weather is still nice.....

even if you dont crash it, the batteries will suffer from the test of time and it is unlikely you will ever get 500 cycles from a single pack in the course of a year.

it should be noted that a 90 is a 90 from the beginning of the tank to the end....it gets stronger as fuel burns off, so comparing something that is strong as a 90 for five minutes and then a good 60 for the other 10 isn't an apples to apples comparison.

anyone who thinks this is a value against a 90 must consider this if they think that this is "better" than a 90. it is cool, but it is not a 90 and it is more expensive.

lets do another math scenario

five minutes of extreme 3-d with a fury extreme is slightly less than half a tank of 30%, you get about 10 minutes of full-on 90 performance from a fury extreme (which this machine is being compared to by most people)

....10 minutes of a 90 for 2.50 a flight (fuel doesnt have cycles, you will always spend 2.50 a tank, or whatever the cost of fuel is for you)

...or 5 minutes of a 90 for 640.00 /500 or 1.30 a flight....theres no deal.

you are not buying "all" your fuel up front with an electric, you are buying a 640.00 fuel tank that may or may not get 500 flights.

something to think about if you are looking at this machine hard. I wanted to get it too, but I don't see any reason over a 90.
02-15-2004 Over year old.
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