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Main Discussion > Question about 50 Size Sceadu
 
 
Bugsquawsher
Senior Heliman
Location: Pflugerville Texas

Is this nothing more than a 30 Size with a 50 in it?
Tom
04-16-2002 Over year old.
 
 
DrScoles
Veteran
Location: Redmond WA

More like a 50 that can utilize a 30 for beginners... It was meant for the size of a 50. ie. boom is long enough to handle 620's... You're gonna have fun trying to swing blades that big with a 30...

The head is just a shrunken version of the Freya, fairly strong. The upper washout arms may be a little anemic... But I think I'd rather have those go in a crash instead of a blade grip.

I have an OS50 with muscle pipe and 30% CP, this thing is a rocket ship! Feels like it has more power than my Freya 91's.

With 600 wide chord v-blades I can run the thing at 100% throttle at max pitch, but when I used the 570 fiberglass blades, I was tuning it down below 90%...

I hope to get a lot more time in on the heli this summer, we've had such crappy weather lately that I haven't got more than 15-20 flights on it.

Mike
04-16-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Bugsquawsher
Senior Heliman
Location: Pflugerville Texas

Well Then
when I finally get good at flyin I will Upgrade my 30 size to a 50 Size
I just found the Hirobo web site right after I posted this.
Heres what it says
30 size
Motormounts for 30
fan hub for 30
9T clutch pinion gear for 9.66:1
Muffler 30 size
550 mm wood blades

50 Size
Motor mounts for 50
fan hub for 50
10T clutch pinion gear for 8.7:1
muffler for 50
570 mm gel coated glass blades

Sounds cheaper than an all new Heli
Thanks Tom
04-16-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Greg Takacs
Veteran
Location: Fort Worth, TX

Tom,

then info you've posted looks like the information from my site. Actually there is more to the differences now (there was an update on the bottom of the same page).
- The Sceadu 50 does not come with blades any more.
- It has the DTDS gearset and the 3rd bearing block standard.

The price of the DTDS and the 3rd bearing block is $100 just by themselves. Add to the cost the engine mount, clutch, fan hub and muffler, and you'll see that the total cost is close to $300.

I think you're better off selling your 30 with the engine in it and getting a Sceadu 50 OS50 combo from HeliProz or somewhere else.....

Just my $0.02.......
04-16-2002 Over year old.
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Bugsquawsher
Senior Heliman
Location: Pflugerville Texas

Hey Greg
Thanks alot.
I'll be on the 30 size for A while.
I have been spending alot of time on your site.
I really like what you have done.
So should I just not worry about upgrading anything on this 30 size then?
And what is this DTDS I keep seeing?
Or shall I say , What does DTDS mean?
Tom
04-16-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Greg Takacs
Veteran
Location: Fort Worth, TX

Thanks for the comment.....

DTDS is Hirobo's name for driven tail (Driven Tail Drive System I think). What it will do is that the tail will be driven off the main shaft and not the engine, so if you're autoing the heli it will still have tail rotor movement. Also the gears in the DTDS are machined delrin gears instead of the molded plastic the Sceadu 30 comes with.

As far as the upgrade from the 30 to 50 goes, I have made a search to see if there is actually an upgrade package out yet, and low and behold there is: 0412160 Sceadu 50 Conv. Set $49.99 that includes everything except driven tail and 3rd bearing block. With the knowledge of the above information I stand corrected and it actually makes more sense to upgrade your 30 into a 50 than selling the 30 and getting a 50. Overall I still think that the 50 is a better value from the start, but the very reasonably priced upgrade kit makes it a viable solution for people like you who are ready to move up.

From your current point, I'd assume the cost of the upgrade would be $50 for the upgrade package, $85 or so for a decent set of blades, $180 for the engine, and $110 for the DTDS and 3rd bearing block. Total "damage" $425. You can save $110 by putting off the DTDS and 3rd bearing puchase.

A new Sceadu 50 with the OS and a decent set of blades would run you around $660. The difference between the upgrade cost and the price of a new Sceadu 50 is $235. So if you can sell your Sceadu 30 with no engine for $235 or more, the sale and purchase of a new machine is worth it. If You can't get at least $235 for it, then the upgrade is the way to go. Even if you get a little less than $235, I'd still say it's worth it as you get a brand new machine and the pleasure of building it . However if you're short on money and want to jump into a 50 size, I'd say go with the upgrade without the DTDS and 3rd bearing, so you can be up and flying a 50 for $315. It's your call either way, but the cheap upgrade package definetely made the decision a little more difficult.

Good luck with your choice, I'm sure you'll love the extra power cushion the 50 provides!
04-16-2002 Over year old.
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Bugsquawsher
Senior Heliman
Location: Pflugerville Texas

Like I said
I will be on this 30 size for a while
I just got into helis.
I went against your advice about used equipment But I think I got lucky
I found a slightly used 30 size sceadu with os 32 ,JR XP783 Radio, telebee 701 gyro all manuels, Radio Case and starter Rod for 700 bucks.
I was in a shacky hover after three or four tanks. After six tanks I was feelin pretty good.
That evening I charged the radio (JR) with a Futaba charger by accident and fried the radio.
so I'm sittin on my thumbs right now. Waiting for the radio to come back and my G2 to show up.
Doin alot of readin about helis.
I need to fly again.
I'm a long time plank pilot. so I take my J-3 Cub out when there wind is right.
If or when I up grade to a 50 size I think I will go all the way like you sudjest.
Thanks for yours replies and keep up the Great work on your sight.
Tom Stuck on the Ground Wise
04-16-2002 Over year old.
 
 
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