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Beginners Corner > G2 Sim !!
 
 
Bubba
Heliman
Location: London, Ontario, Canada

I can't even hover, How will I know when I am ready to start the real one?? This thing is very confusing.....
04-12-2002 Over year old.
 
 
driftrider
Veteran
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA. (In my own little world)

Stick with it! It'll come eventually..

I learned on G2 just like you are. When I started I knew how the controls for a heli worked (collective, cyclic, rudder and throttle) and I knew basic helicopter aerodynamics, but that was it. Practicing regularly (an hour or more every day) for about two weeks I went from being unable to keep the heli airborn for more than a few seconds to hovering at will, circuits, and some forward flight. The first time I hovered my real heli I had no problems at all.

The most important thing when learning to hover is proper setup. When I first started I had a bear of a time controlling the collective because my throttle curve was way off and the rotor speed was fluctuating a lot with small movements of the collective. This made the heli bob and weave like Mohammed Ali. Using the Impala 30 Trainer, bring up the Advanced Nav Guide and have it display main rotor RPM and collective pitch, then program your radio for a linear pitch curve (I used -4, -4, 0, +5, +10). Some people recommend that you set your minimum collective to 0 to +2 degrees to prevent you from driving the heli into the ground if you "chop stick," or bottom the collective suddenly when the heli starts to get away from you. In my opinion, if you train like you'll fly, you'll fly like you trained. This way you'll see what happens if you "chop stick" and break the habit quickly. Anyway, to set the pitch it's easiest to kill the engine (hit the "k" key).

Next, with the engine running, the engine should idle with the blades stationary at bottom stick or turning very slowly. Then advance the collective to 1/4 stick. The engine should rev up enough to fully engage the clutch and spool up the blades. Once the blades are spooled up, check the RPM in the Advanced Nav Guide box and adjust point 2 on your throttle curve so it's at about 1500rpm. Move the collective to 1/2 stick and set point 3 on the throttle curve for 1500 RPM. Go to 3/4 stick and set point 4 as best you can. The idea is to have the heli hover at about 3/4 collective (you learn this way because this sets you up for switchless inverted later), but it's far more important to have a linear pitch curve and constant rotor speed than to have the heli hover right at 3/4 (the Raptor 60 will hover at just 2-3 degrees of pitch when run at 1650 rpm, or about halfway between 1/2 and 3/4 stick).

Once you get the heli set up properly it's all a matter of practice, practice, and more practice. Try advancing the collective slowly until the heli just breaks contact with the ground. The heli should tend to skid to the left because of the tail rotor thrust, try putting in just a touch of right cyclic as the heli leaves the ground to keep it steady. When the heli starts getting away from you, hit the spacebar and try again. Eventually you'll hone your "jedi reflexes" so you can stay ahead of the heli and keep it steady.

Also, treat the sim like it was the real thing. Always try to land the heli in one piece every time because you won't have the spacebar for the real thing. Once you can hover over one spot continuously and consistantly through an entire tank of fuel, you're ready to fly the real thing with training gear attached.

Oh, and once you are able to hover the sim, don't forget to turn on the wind. The heli will fly differently with the wind on with some light gusts.

Good luck, have fun, and don't give up,

Mike
04-12-2002 Over year old.
 
 
scott3
Senior Heliman
Location: Pensacola Florida

Give the g2 virtual flight instructor a try and use the impala 30 training heli until you get the hang of it. I felt ready for the real one when I could keep it under control at hover with the tail end. I was very suprised at what a good job g2 sim did training me. Money well spent.
04-12-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Pappy
Heliman
Location: Brea, Calif

I to was confused and fustrated at first.
I have only 15 hours and I am just now starting to feel a little more comfortable.
All I can say is hang in there and Practice, Practice, Practice!
You will get there.
04-12-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Pappy
Heliman
Location: Brea, Calif

Almost forgot

You might want to start off by turning the wind & gust modes off.
This helped me get a feel for the controls without any inferences
I did this for the first 8 hours of learning.
But to get the real effect of flying (after you feel more comfortable with the controls) adjust your wind speed to 5mph and gust to 10-15mph.
You will notice a big change in handling the ship but you will feel more
comfortable with the controls.
I hope this helped. I to am still learning.
PRACTICE.....PRACTICE.....PRACTICE!!!!
04-12-2002 Over year old.
 
 
ChrisMoore
Senior Heliman
Location: Bay Village, OH

G2 Lite

Maybe i did something stupid...heliproz was out of the G2 but had the "lite" version in. so i bought the lite version. it only comes with a couple helis, but many planes. some options are limited too. does anyone out there have some experience with the G2 lite version?

Thanks,

Chris
04-21-2002 Over year old.
 
 
RaptorHelius
Senior Heliman
Location: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

I dont have a sim, I just strapped on my training gear and started to learn hands-on.. That was 1 gallon ago and already I'm getting better at hovering and control. It really wasn't as hard as everyone says! The first couple attempts were un-spectactular (mostly due to my gyro setup, which has been solved), alot of touch and go type stuff... but after 12 tanks of fuel, I've managed to do stable hovers and move it around with some confidence. I still have alot to learn though...

Take Care
04-21-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Beezer
Veteran
Location: Ontario, Canada

Chris You might want to find out if you can upgrade that Lite version to the full version. I don't believe the Lite version will allow you play any multiplayer either and having the extra helis is nice. I'm not sure what else if different but you could compare the two on the RealFlight website. If you don't need the extra features that come with the full version then the Lite will be fine. But once you try multiplayer you will be glad you got it.


Carl
04-21-2002 Over year old.
 
 
ChrisMoore
Senior Heliman
Location: Bay Village, OH

yeah, in the future there will be an upgrade for the full G2, which i will most likely buy when it does.
04-21-2002 Over year old.
 
 
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