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Serpent973
Heliman
Location: Wallington Nj

Ok well I'm deciding on buying my first heli, yes a huge step for me. I have been deciding for the past 2 months which one to get, oh the choices, and have narrowed it down to the Sceadu, Ergo 30, Raptor 30, Century Hawk 4, or Concept 30. I need your opinion well I have about $700 right now and need to decide what to get. At heli world the combo costs about 830 but I can wait.
04-11-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Serpent973
Heliman
Location: Wallington Nj

Also where is the lowest priced hobby shop that sells the Sceadu RTF?
04-11-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Greg Takacs
Veteran
Location: Fort Worth, TX

The ARF (almost Ready to Fly) version of the Sceadu has not hit the US market yet, your only option for that one is to get it from Cyberheli in Hong Kong. Stephen (the owner of the shop) is a really nice guy and responds to e-mails super quickly. You can get the Sceadu 30 ARF with the OS 32 for $350. Add about $60 or so for shipping (I don't know the exact numbers there), and you'll end up with a Sceadu 30 and OS 30 for $410. You can get the kit version and the OS from the US for about $480. So if you're leaning toward the Sceadu (A great heli if you ask me) Cyberheli might be your best bet.

You might want to reconsider the heli combo from HeliWorld.... It comes with a very low end 6ch radio and gyro. You pretty much get what you pay for. If money is really tight you might want to reconsider and get a Raptor instead. It is cheaper (not as nice IMHO) but HeliProz has a great package deal on the ARF version with the Airtronics RD6000 Sport. Note that the $569 price tag does not include a gyro and you'll DEFINETELY have to ask for the RD6000 regular or the Super flavor, NOT the Sport that one has only 3 point curves just as bad as the JR 662 or the Futaba 6X.

I've owned the Raptor and I fly a Sceadu now, I like the Sceadu better, (mainly because it's a 50 size) I also think it's higher quality, but if all you can get is a Raptor you won't go wrong with that one either. Just make sure you get a decent radio.

Overall at your situation your best bet would be probably to get either the Raptor ARF with the RD6000 regular or Super from Heliproz with a JR410 or Futaba 240.

If you're not afraid to order from overseas, go with Cyberheli's Sceadu 30 ARF with the OS32 and pick up the GY401 from them as well, and then order your radio from Heliproz or other US retailer (I like Heliproz, I do 99% of my shopping with them)

Good luck with your decision, I'm glad you're leaning toward the Sceadu, it is a great machine for the money, no doubt about that.

P.S. I apologize if my previoust post in your R/C car trading deal was offensive and hurt you..... some thought that way......
04-11-2002 Over year old.
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fitenfyr
rrProfessor
Location: Port Orchard, Washington

Raptor...

Best bet for a starter bird. Take the money you save on the kit and put it towards a good radio and electronics. I would recommend the 9C series if you can afford it. If not go with what Greg said and pick up the RD6000.
Call a couple of the online shops and see what kind of package they can set you up with.
Also think used? There are some great deals to be had if you are looking hard enough. Look on this site and RCU I am sure you will find a rappy in you budget.
Don't worry about how it was put together so much. The first thing you want to do is tear it down and go over it anyhow. Even the ARF kits.
The Raptor is a great heli to start with and is easily upgraded or sold when you are ready for a new model.
The Sceadu 30 will get you through hover and forward flight, but it is lacking power for much else. Flying buddy has had his for about 3-4 months and is already talking 50 upgrade. He is just starting loops and rolls, and thinks his Rappy 32 is better HP wise than the Sceadu 30.
Now the 50 well that's a different animal all together....

Jason

Jason Stiffey
Fly Fast....Live Slow...
04-11-2002 Over year old.
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kyoshokamper
Senior Heliman
Location: HOUSTON, TX, U.S.A.

I AGREE WITH FITENFLYER

The r30 is hands down best newbie bird as a new purchase and the futaba 9c in either fm or pcm is an excellent way to steer a newbie. But you know that the r30 afr requires that you buy their tt36 engine which is definitely now the preferred engine, the os32 is. Some vendors will remove the tt36 and give you your choice of the os32 and i would suggest the tt upgrade muffler instead of the oem tt. Within a week after you learn to hover well, you will be looking to upgrade. Some other upgrades to ask for that you will be needing almost immediately are the aftermarket metal frame stiffner, solid ace tail hub, 50 size large fuel tank, header tank, dynamite fuel filter x 2 ( one for your can )and a remote glow adaptor. I would advise that you get the 50 size aftermarket metal frame stiffner at nearly the same cost of the 30 so that you will have options later. Stay away from the tt engine and give up the arf if you have to.
04-11-2002 Over year old.
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kyoshokamper
Senior Heliman
Location: HOUSTON, TX, U.S.A.

I AGREE WITH FITENFLYER

The r30 is hands down best newbie bird as a new purchase and the futaba 9c in either fm or pcm is an excellent way to steer a newbie. But you know that the r30 arf requires that you buy their tt36 engine which is definitely not the preferred engine, the os32 is. Some vendors will remove the tt36 and give you your choice of the os32 and I would suggest the tt upgrade muffler instead of the oem tt. Within a week after you learn to hover well, you will be looking to upgrade the muffler and fuel system. Some upgrades to ask for that you will be needing almost immediately are the aftermarket metal frame stiffner, solid ace tail hub, 50 size large fuel tank, header tank, dynamite fuel filter x 2 (one for your can) and a remote glow adaptor. I would advise that you get the 50 size aftermarket metal frame stiffner at nearly the same cost of the 30 so that you will have options later. Stay away from the tt engine and give up the arf if you have to. The tt upgrade muffler is identical to the Century Speed Torpedo HVII but the Century has a second pressure tap and plug on the bottom of the muffler to fit other heli's that is troublesome to keep in even with locktite or jb weld. That is why I recommend the ace upgrade or the gr8 muffler upgrade as the most cost effective way to avoid regret and get reliable querk free power! Try www.gr8lakes.com they worked with 2 of my students quite well on the aforementioned combo.
04-11-2002 Over year old.
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Serpent973
Heliman
Location: Wallington Nj

Is the Hawk 4 aerobatic capable? Because I might just get the hawk 4 with a good radio and the just get the sceadu on my birthday. I've already flown a heli twice and I can hover pretty well and am going to nose in hover next, good idea if i mess up soem thing mite as well be the Hawk right.
04-11-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Serpent973
Heliman
Location: Wallington Nj

Also what is the Sceadu 30 SWM? I saw it at cyber helis.
04-11-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Greg Takacs
Veteran
Location: Fort Worth, TX

There is a guy here, his name is "oldfart" he seems to know about the Century helis. He'll tell you they are great AND cheap. I for one don't know them have never seen one before so I have no idea....
Here are some older threads that you might want to check out:
http://runryder.com/showtopic.htm?s=&topicid=4746
http://runryder.com/showtopic.htm?s=&topicid=5353
http://runryder.com/showtopic.htm?s=&topicid=4833
http://runryder.com/showtopic.htm?s=&topicid=1024


The Sceadu SWM is the how they call CCPM in Japan It is not available in the US either at the moment...... (I personally would not want one, but that's just my opinion.....)

I am glad that you see that the radio is the key point in your initial purchase as birds will come and go but your radio will probably stick for a while. Also if you're already at the hovering stage and getting ready for more, I'd HIGLY recommend getting a 50 size from the start instead of upgrading later. It is a higher initial investment but it will save you money in the long run. I just wish I had the current 50 options when I started.......
04-11-2002 Over year old.
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JCadwell
Key Veteran
Location: Richland WA/ Morro Bay, CA

I have both a Hawk IV and a Sceadu 50. The sceadu is worlds away in terms of quality, appearance, performance, and price. The Hawk IV is a great ship that I really have not had any problems with, but it does get sloppy quite a bit faster than the sceadu. The Hawk is capable of just about everything you could want to do for a while, and is cheap. Cheaper than a Raptor. And it comes with a muffler. It does help to install two upgrades though. Get the antirotation stop, and the tail mounted servo. $30 for both. Although it has a wire drive tail, as a beginner you are not going to be noticing a whole lot. I've gotten to the point where a torque tube looks appealling. I do prefer belt tails though. I bought the Hawk to beat up. I don't like crashing my sceadu, and Hawk parts are very cheap, and available here. I have been flipping it, flopping it, and crashing it regularly for about a month now, and it holds up quite well. The quality in general is not up to Sceadu par though. You get what you pay for. I paid for a kit that costs about half what the 50 kit costs. That's what I got.

Thanks, John Cadwell
04-11-2002 Over year old.
 
 
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