RunRyder - Three gyros? What happens?

rrTV-PHOTO

New HD TV

HOME rrTV-PHOTO GALLERIES MY GALLERY HELP-FAQ

myHOME PM pmRR MEMBERS 396 ONLINE 28 EVENTS SEARCH REGISTER START HERE

2 pages [ << < 1 ( 2 ) > >> ]

1684 views

POST REPLY

Ace Hobby	.	Esprit Model	.	Thunder Power RC
	.		.

Radio - Servo - Gyro - Gov - Batt > Three gyros? What happens?

RC-CAM
Senior Heliman
Location: USA

Quote
Where is the fun in that? If it flies itself there is no challenge, no gratification (like when you perfect a new maneuver), and to me no enjoyment.

The challenge and enjoyment (at this stage of the game) is in creating the technology to do this interesting task. As easy as this sort of technology may appear, it really presents a huge set of challenges to get it to work well.

There are some applications that are perfect for it (military surveillance, camera platform, hobby type RPV, newbie training system, etc.). But I agree, it probably will not be something that "today's" R/C heli pilot will care to use.

But, there could be more to this new technology than my tiny brain can imagine. To put this into perspective, let me offer an interesting piece of R/C history.

Up until the early 1960's, R/C radios were mostly non-proportional based "reed" technology. The skills required to fly were different, but a model aircraft could be piloted with as much authority as any good sport plane today.

Back then, all we had were transmitters with a bunch of three position toggle switches. Pulse proportional radios were available, usually as kits, but reed radios with their toggle switches were king at most R/C club fields.

But by the mid-sixties, digital proportional was starting to get popular as their prices fell. Believe it or not, many of the "experienced" pilots expressed that the R/C hobby was doomed to die, since the proportional radios had reduced the pilot skill level to that of a monkey on morphine.

They were very serious and often cruel to newbies that arrived with a shiny new "digital" radio system. I wonder what these balsa and silk fellows would think of using a modern ARF?

Those claims have certainly missed their mark (at least I hope so). So, I am always careful about making any doomsday predictions concerning ANY hobby. Geez, some folks collect stamps, a hobby that seems much less exciting than building a computer guided model aircraft.

Final Answer: Never say Never.

04-05-2002 Over year old.

HOMEPAGE

ed vega
Key Veteran
Location: nyc, queens

all I can say is - mit , sony and other poly's need to get together .. in light of intelligent systems , intelligent mech dogs, now dancing mini robotic androids? ..

wankels, have to say - a good motor to understand added with r/c heli diversity. they have been around long enough. how much more does it cost to in comparison to the exisitng motors ? - a previous post showed a larger version. comparison to a gasser ..

04-05-2002 Over year old.

rsilvers
Senior Heliman
Location: Marshfield, MA

Jason,

I am gaining heli skill on a copter with a GY401 HH gyro. I was nervous to fly my friend's identical heli with a rate gyro, even though I built his heli! I got used to not worrying about yaw. But I did it, and I intend to do so from time to time to make sure I learn. I will also start to fly the sim with HH off.

The Co-Pilot: I would never suggest someone use it to learn to fly, because when it does something erratic, you will not know how to correct it. I think it is useful for someone who wants it as a backup, or maybe you can flick it on to take a mental rest while in the air or while operating a camera. The best way to learn to fly is to spend 6 hours on RealFlight G2, then do some hops with a real model, then do more mixed in with G2 when the weather is bad. You have the potential to learn at a rate that people 10 years ago could not have imagined. If thousands of young people were doing this today they would kick everyone's butts. But this is a tiny hobby.

04-05-2002 Over year old.

HOMEPAGE

rsilvers
Senior Heliman
Location: Marshfield, MA

MobileRaptor,

I want to do the same thing (Wankel engine in a Raptor 30). I wrote about it a week or two ago. I could not find anyone who has done it, so you can be the first?

I am not sure about engine mounts and stuff like that, but if you do it, let me know. If an engine mount needs to be machined, I might even give that a try on my Sherline endmill.

04-05-2002 Over year old.

HOMEPAGE

MobileRaptor
Veteran
Location: Orange, Texas

The reason I picked the hawk for this is the frame set-up, the raptor with it's drop out engine design frames would be near impossible to modify for the wankle, The hawk with it's square frame should be easier to set up., And if it doesn't work all I am out POS hawk. but if it does work the next phase will be to inclose it in a AirWolf body. The sound sould be quit different.

04-05-2002 Over year old.

rsilvers
Senior Heliman
Location: Marshfield, MA

Someone should combine a real quiet muffler with an electronically generated turbine sound system that changes as it sees the throttle move.

04-05-2002 Over year old.

HOMEPAGE

ed vega
Key Veteran
Location: nyc, queens

how cool would 4in fart can look like on a heli? .. like to try a large wankel using a standard heli. but what gyro would I need?

04-05-2002 Over year old.

Kurt64
Veteran
Location: Salladasburg, PA

I would imagine that years ago, when modern R/C helis first hit the market, some of the original heli fliers said "a collective control and a gyro on the rudder? Where is the challange in that?". It is all a matter of perspective and personal preference. Do what is fun for you....isnt that what this hobby is all about anyway?
I tried the x y axis heli gyro idea in a plank (a somethin extra) and all it really did was soften the controls. I tried it just to see if I could hover the plane nose up with hands off the controls....it dint work very well. It was definately easier to control at that attitude, but was definately not hands off.
I would imagine that a device will be available soon that will recover a heli from any attitude no matter what the surroundings. If ya dont like it, dont buy it. Not to mention that the cost of such a device can buy a lot of fuel and crash parts.

04-06-2002 Over year old.

2 pages [ << < 1 ( 2 ) > >> ]

1684 views

POST REPLY

Real Raptors	.	Mikado Modellhubschrauber	.	GrandRC
	.		.

Radio - Servo - Gyro - Gov - Batt > Three gyros? What happens?

UPDATE SCREEN PRINT TOPIC

Advertisers

Subscribe to This Topic