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e-Electric Motors & Controllers > astro 010 10 turn with pheonex 10 brushless controller
 
 
ferret
Heliman
Location: victoria australia

does anybody use or know of this combo for the hummingbird f/p. can i use this motor with 2 cell lipo 1200mah 7.4 volt...... what timing should i use and what pinion should i use. also hows the tail controled how do you wire up the two speedys.......i'm a bit dumb when it comes to electrics so some in depth info would be appreciated.
09-27-2003 Over year old.
 
 
stevem
Senior Heliman
Location: Oklahoma

Sure thing!

I would suggest a 10 tooth pinion - the stock HB pinion will work if you are careful to remove it. Use a tiny drop of thin CA to glue it to the shaft of the 010. Don't get any glue in the bearings or your motor is toast.

Works great with 2S lipoly cells.

Settings are as follows:

Step Setting
1 2 (5.0v)
2 3
3 5 (no brake)
4 2 (fixed throttle)
5 2 (standard advance)
6 2 (soft)
7* 3*

* = if you have the latest software this setting 7 is for soft start when using governor mode in a CP machine.

To wire the two controllers together, cut the battery plugs off of each controller. Leave yourself long enough wires. I tend to put both my ESCs together so I gut teh battery wires to the same length.

Strip each wire end about 1/8" and tin with solder. Do the same with one battery plug. Get some heatshrink tubing from Radio Shack and cut two pieces about 1/2" long. THe tubing should just be large enough to slip over two wires side-by-side.

Now the tough part - hold the two red ESC battery wires together and slip a piece of heatshrink over them. Then, somehwe keeping the two wires together, place the red battery plug wire against the two ESC wires and solder. You want the battery plug wire facing the opposite direction so the heat shrink will slip over the three wires. DO the same with the black wires, slide the shrink over and shrink with a heat gun or hairdryer set on high.

Now you need to remove the red servo wire from the tail ESC. This will keep the tail esc from feeding voltage back into the receiver as the astro esc already is doing this. Just pull back the plastic lock holding it in place and pull the pin out of the connector. Tape it back to insulate it.

If you are using a heading hold gyro (HH Gyro) then turn off all mixing on your radio. If using a standard gyro (century, GWS, etc) then you need to setup revo mix on a heli radio. It gets a bit more complicated than that, so let me know if you don't have a HH gyro.

When you plug the battery in, let teh heli sit still for a few seconds, then hold the rudder stick to the left and hold it there for aboiut 5 seconds to arm the tail ESC (if it needs to be armed). Then release it and it should start the tail when you input right rudder. If not, you may need to reverse your rudder on your radio.

I hope I have helped at least a little. Let me know if there are any other questions.

Steve
09-27-2003 Over year old.
 
 
ferret
Heliman
Location: victoria australia

astro 10

thanks steve appreciate your help,

just wanting to know what setting i should use on the speed controller 010 for my f/p hummingbird, i just want to hover and fly around no collective just fixed pitch. other than that i understand the rest. i will send you a picture of the bell 222 body w/retracts that i have ordered online when it arrives. i also have one other question what do you think about the razor 350 motor with 10 ah speed controller. i heard this motor is the best for the collective piccolo, hornet ect and can be used on f/p helis but did not hear how well it worked on f/p, in the future i intend to get a collective model quiet possibly the collective hummingbird when released and want to use the same motor /controller combo
09-28-2003 Over year old.
 
 
stevem
Senior Heliman
Location: Oklahoma

I have been using teh Razor RZ350 for some time on my FP hummingbird with the phoenix 10 and it works gerat! Just get an 8 tooth pinion if you are using the stock blades and battery. If using Hornet fixed pitch blades and the stock battery, then you will want a 9-10 tooth pinion. If using Lithium poly batteries with the stock blades or hornet blades, then the 8 tooth will work.

I am also using the same motor on a CP cpnversion and it seems to work well although on 3 lithium poly cells it may be a bit too fast for the Hummingbird's 120 tooth main gear. It does work well, just perhaps not as good as it could. Thinking about switching to a Hornet 180 tooth main gear - that may be a better match for it.
09-28-2003 Over year old.
 
 
ferret
Heliman
Location: victoria australia

razor 350

thanks steve you have sold me. i am going to buy the razor 350,appreciate your help
09-29-2003 Over year old.
 
 
zoom
Elite Veteran
Location: Galveston, Texas

Where do you get that Razor 350 motor?

I don't think I saw it at helihobby

Predator, Raptor 30, TRex CCPM 450TH, 3D Pro 400F
10-19-2003 Over year old.
 
 
ferret
Heliman
Location: victoria australia

raxor motor

you get it at www.razormotors.com its a cool site
10-20-2003 Over year old.
 
 
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