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IRAW50
Heliman
Location: RICHMOND,VA.

I hope this is where this belongs,it is a warning about a swindler in SANTA CLARITA,CA.91321. He goes (at last listing) the e-mail sign on as KUAGABOD@AOL.COM,his name is JAMIE ANDERSON. he advertised for a airwolf on ebay for sale or trade, i contacted him and we agreed to trade. I would trade a savage mt upgraded and a serpent vector onroad car rtr.his feedback was all positive(???) prior to our transaction.he told me that he had been scammed in a trade for a car beforeand wanted to do this deal just like cash.OK, i can understand how he may have been leary but i have made dozens of transactions all over the world and had had no problems,so, i said ok, i will send you my items for your inspection and at that time he would send me the heli,the day after my items arrived he started complaining, so i said ,PLEASE ,just pack my items back up if you don't want them and send them back, he sent me an email and said he was returning my items,that was the last i heard from him or my items,i hope this will prevent anyone else from getting burned by this guy
08-12-2003 Over year old.
 
 
eddie13231
Senior Heliman
Location: Kansas City

I would never do any trades with people online, too many low lifes.
08-13-2003 Over year old.
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GregKRC
Senior Heliman
Location: Auburn, AL

I've heard a lot of bad stories about trades online. Sorry you got burnt.
08-13-2003 Over year old.
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Sar
Elite Veteran
Location: Kingston, NY

Don't do a trade online unless you got the guys real address, and are within driving distance, or happened to score a free airline ticket due to over booked flight

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Jon
08-13-2003 Over year old.
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zoro
Senior Heliman
Location: Darwin, Australia

i must admit i'm the biggest sceptic when it comes to doing that sort of stuff over the net. is there anything you can do? can any of us do anything to help besides keeping our eyes n ears open? makes me feel bad when i hear bout this **** it really sux. sorry man.
08-13-2003 Over year old.
 
 
rckrzy1
Elite Veteran
Location: Hurst Texas

This is NOT Ebay

please go rant on ebay, this is not ebay.



Wildcat Fuels
08-13-2003 Over year old.
 
 
RCtime
Senior Heliman
Location: So Cal

Hey Adam---this guy got burnt and needed to vent a little. How about a little sympathy.----------Ron
08-13-2003 Over year old.
 
 
GregKRC
Senior Heliman
Location: Auburn, AL

I found the info helpful.....chill
Lets just all be Friends
08-13-2003 Over year old.
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HELIHEAD
Heliman
Location: Branson, MO

theif

hey, how about a address and maybe someone might know where this guy is or who he is . they might even see some of your stuff around.
08-13-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Spencer K
Senior Heliman
Location: Camarillo, CA / Phoenix, Az

i live in camarillo, ca. not too far from there. if i ever see him at my club, or i ever get his name, i will let you know. good luck, spencer
08-13-2003 Over year old.
 
 
the Wasp
rrProfessor
Location: Vt

IRAW50,,, I'm wondering, how long has it been sense he said he was going to send your car back ??


Jim

Jim
Buzz Buzz Buzz
08-13-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Naomi
Elite Veteran
Location: Ontario, Canada

eddie13231
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I would never do any trades with people online, too many low lifes

If you check the forum, they are usually have good buyers or sellers list and testimonial from buyers or sellers.. Check on the list see if the one you are trying to deal with is reputable on the list. and also check to see how many post this person has that you are trying to deal with, that way you should be able get yourself a handle of reputable people to deal with online. Just my 2¢.

Naomi
08-13-2003 Over year old.
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G.Man
rrProfessor
Location: Northants, but soon to be Nicosia, Cyprus

Good feedback on ebay can be faked from multiple accounts and often is by people wishing to rip others off...



Don't Email me as I wont reply - PM Only (spam countermeasures)
08-13-2003 Over year old.
 
 
IRAW50
Heliman
Location: RICHMOND,VA.

warning

first ofall , thank you guys and gal for your concern,as for ADAM, I AM GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN BURNT! I am just trying to keep some one else from dealing with this guy. I have his address and phone number,he lives on SIERRA HWY IN SANTA CLARITA,CA. his name is JAMIE ANDERSON. i have done great deals on the internet but guys like this give our hobby a bad rep,just be carefull out there. IRA
08-13-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Naomi
Elite Veteran
Location: Ontario, Canada

Thanks for your heads up. We do have some scammers on here as well pretending to sell something they dont have. We are a tide knit community here, we looked out for each others, any input always appreciated.

Naomi
08-13-2003 Over year old.
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rckrzy1
Elite Veteran
Location: Hurst Texas

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he advertised for a airwolf on ebay for sale or trade


The last time I checked Ebay was not a trading post, and I'm sure Ebay policy wil tell you not to do this so why feel sorry for someone not following the rule. Buyer beware. I have no symphaty for stupidity.

Also this dude had a whole 3 or 4 positives and you took that as a good seller? Now he has more negatives than positives and has been booted of ebay.



Wildcat Fuels
08-13-2003 Over year old.
 
 
gerallt
Heliman
Location: Caernarfon, N Wales

I have, and many others like me, traded on good will and the belief that whoever else is as interested in the hobby as I am would not be out to con or steal (or whatever else you wish to call it).
We all take each other's honest word, either in the descriptions of the items for sale or in the personal info or addresses.
It is an honourable thing to do and I'm glad to be able to be part of that. There's nothing nicer than being able to post a good reply to a good guy list or similar and nothing better than being treated as you would treat others.

This guy needs to be discovered and this issue sorted out. This type of behaviour ruins the trust etc that has been built up between people within a group (eg our hobby). It also makes me very angry that some low life thinks he can take advantage of such trust.

Though slim, I would hope that there would be a sensible reason for him not getting in touch (eg had to leave for a while with work commitments or member of family ill or similar-you think up of more reasons).

Keep record of all communications with him. Send a formal letter requesting the items back(get him to sign for the letter and check who did actually sign). Get the law involved, it might be an easy crime for them to solve, improves their stats, though don't hold your breath on this point too much!

Best of luck in getting your things back.

IRAW50, I sympathise greatly with you.

Here's my story:

I had something similar happen to me a few years ago. I had crashed off my motorcycle and needed a few parts to get it going again, which included front forks and wheel, fairing panels etc. We knew of a guy, Robbie Bulger, with whom we'd allready traded before and thus contacted him. I was promised almost all the neccesary part for £800, he'd even deliver them as he would be passing before the end of the week. A cheque was sent, it was duly cashed and no more was heard of/from him, he had dissapeared. We tried taking him to the small claims court and bailiffs(sp?), but we were told by a supposed brother that the name was incorrect etc, anyway it would cost even more to go through the process again so we gave up.

In the end this meannt that this $hit had stolen £800 from us and walked away scott free. He had abused the trust that exists between motorcyclists, a rather closed knitt community and got away with it!!

By us I mean me and my parents, btw. It affected my father quite a bit, he couldn't believe anyone could be so dishonest. It affected him personally and greatly affected his sleep. Not too long after that he had to have a heart op. I'm not saying this caused his heart condition but it sure as hell didn't help.

I still sometimes buy second hand, but more using online services such as PayPal etc which give you some protection due to the credit card involvement (I hope this belief is true!!).

End of rant and sorry for such a lengthy post. This topic stirred up a bit of anger!

All the best,

Gerallt.
08-13-2003 Over year old.
 
 
CyberPilot
Veteran
Location: Yorba Linda CA

Appreciate the info.

Sounds like everyone (except 1) appreciates the info.

I don't understand why this 1 guy is so bent on providing negative feedback about a topic that he admitedly doesn't want any part of.

Anyway, sorry you got burnt.

Thanks,
C.P.

~OCHC~
I make kits from helis :-)
08-13-2003 Over year old.
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T.C.
Veteran
Location: Nottingham. England.

Adam ,

I don't remember anyone asking for sympathy, all the guy was trying to do, was name & shame, to prevent anyone else from making the same mistake. Let's face it we all make mistakes, including you.

So get off the guy's case.




Tony
08-13-2003 Over year old.
 
 
rescueswimmer
Heliman
Location: Enterprise, AL

Hey man sorry to hear that you got burnt. What happend there is fraud and is illegal. Have you tried contacting your local law enforcement or even the F.B.I.'s internet fraud division. Not to mention usually AOL needs a credit card or valid info before you can start using their email. Have you contacted them or tried to use the address you mailed it to. Just trying to help a buddy of mine had to do all of the above but it was resolved after the F.B.I. contacted the gentleman about his bogus sale.
08-13-2003 Over year old.
 
 
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