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Radio - Servo - Gyro - Gov - Batt > MultiGov or ATG Governor - which?
 
 
jkempxx
Senior Heliman
Location: Tullahoma TN

I want to install either a MultiGov Pro or a CY ATG on a Hirobo EVO50 just for normal flying (not advanced 3d) and request any recommendations from those who have tried either of these governors. Which would you buy? Thanks in advance-jkempxx
09-14-2008 01:57 PM
 
 
inkspot1967
rrProfessor
Location: cranston ri.

i have been using the atg since it first come out and love it, easiest to setup and i never had a problem with mine since day one.

i would highly recommend it , also get the g-view for it. its very handy to have, it also works on the solid-g gyro and mini-g thats coming out.

Trex700e Ray Nemovi's conversion kit & Tyler Bonta Flybarless
Rave Flybarless
WENZEL CANO
09-14-2008 02:49 PM
 
 
Rymps
Veteran
Location: Indianapolis and Windsor CO

I have used both and they work about the same. You can not go wrong with either one. The Multi gov is lighter, and if you get the Multi gov Pro you will have a "Carb Smart" too. If you are running a Solid G then i would get the AGT as you will only probably have the G Veiw.
09-14-2008 06:21 PM
 
 
lightningrc
Elite Veteran
Location: UK

Only used the Multigov but love it , worked better than my CSM,s could never stop them over speeding.
09-14-2008 10:55 PM
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frickey295
Senior Heliman
Location: Avenel NJ USA

I use the ATG and have had great success. Simple to set up and operate

Frank

Vibe 50 BLS 451's ,Hyper, BW pipe, GY 611 , T REX 700 on the way
09-15-2008 01:22 AM
 
 
Wingman77
Elite Veteran
Location: Pulaski TN US

I just got the atg and I cannot make it overspeed at all it holds HS very nicely
09-15-2008 01:26 AM
 
 
captrlp
Senior Heliman
Location: spanish fork, utah - USA

I have installed the multi gov on six helis, all with great success. Easy install, setup and maintenance, and great support from Aerospire.

take care, dont step on the toes today that may be connected to the butt you have to kiss tomorrow!!
09-15-2008 02:31 AM
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RAK402
Veteran
Location: Alhambra, CA

I have four ATG's-all work beatifully.

KBDD-Compass Field Rep.
09-15-2008 09:22 PM
 
 
DS 8717
rrProfessor
Location: Here wishing i was somewhere else

I have 3 ATG's and a 9303,so easy to set up a caveman could do it.
09-15-2008 09:52 PM
 
 
RAK402
Veteran
Location: Alhambra, CA

DS8717,

"I have 3 ATG's and a 9303,so easy to set up a caveman could do it."

If that is a reference to my age, you are pretty close...I am almost old enough to be a caveman.

KBDD-Compass Field Rep.
09-15-2008 11:45 PM
 
 
Ray Fernandez
Elite Veteran
Location: Guam (U.S.A.)

I've been always using MultiGov. Several other fellow flyers at my field use ATG and GOV-1. They been having some problems with theirs.

My MultiGovs just keep working.

Ray Fernandez - GUAM
09-16-2008 12:49 AM
 
 
baddraptor
Elite Veteran
Location: valencia, ca- usa

3 ATGs here had 4 but it went with the bird when I sold it. I have never had an issue in the 2 years I have been running them. Holds the head right on the target speed and never overspeeds.

The other real nice thing about the CY products is if you have Solid-g gyros 1 g-view will set eveything up.

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so easy to set up a caveman could do it


YUP!!

**Unattended children will be givin a shot of espresso and a puppy**
09-16-2008 12:52 AM
 
 
tchavei
rrProfessor
Location: Portugal

Definitely Multigov Pro

Tony


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"Perfection and patience usually walk side by side..."
09-16-2008 01:49 AM
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tadawson
Elite Veteran
Location: Lewisville, TX

Both have similar functionality, but if you want three (or more) speeds *AND* off, then the ATG is the only game in town. If you want two *AND* off *OR* just three three speed and no provision to turn off, as well as mixture control, then it's the MultiGov pro. Overall, I think I find the ATG to be the more versatile of the two, and the MultiGov a tad simpler. I don't this you could go wrong with either . . .

- Tim

The more I touch electrics, the more I grow to hate them . . . .
09-16-2008 04:19 AM
 
 
rapidity
Heliman
Location: ohio

You can have more than 3 headspeeds with the ATG?
09-16-2008 11:52 AM
 
 
KennyS
Veteran
Location: Marble Falls, Tx

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You can have more than 3 headspeeds with the ATG?

Yes

I have also been running the ATG since it first came out. It has always worked flawlessly.

Next D- Rave, Trex 700, Trex 600N Flybarless, Trex 500
09-16-2008 02:20 PM
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tadawson
Elite Veteran
Location: Lewisville, TX

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You can have more than 3 headspeeds with the ATG?

The ATG speed setting is fully proportional on the control channel, so you can have as many speeds as you can configure your radio to send, unlike the MG which uses three fixed values stored in the gov. On the ATG, "off" is nothing more than sending a certain value.

So, with the right radio, you are basically unlimited on the ATG, and you can also setup a knob to trim headspeed in flight, something the MG cannot do.

- Tim

The more I touch electrics, the more I grow to hate them . . . .
09-16-2008 03:31 PM
 
 
tchavei
rrProfessor
Location: Portugal

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The ATG speed setting is fully proportional on the control channel, so you can have as many speeds as you can configure your radio to send, unlike the MG which uses three fixed values stored in the gov. On the ATG, "off" is nothing more than sending a certain value.

Whats the point of having "as many speeds as you can configure" when you can't even be 100% sure of the current speed? As far as I know, unknown + X rpm = unknown.

The ATG doesn't even support directly a 8.7 ratio for crying out loud. You have to select the closest match and guess it from there. Thats pretty scientific . Although many don't care, I'm sure a Vibe 50, Evo 50, Knight3D or SynergyN9 owner will. Rather having 3 (or 2 plus OFF) speeds working PERFECTLY than having 50 different ones that are "close".

Not wanting to bash any product here is my opinion

ATG = Multiple speeds, limited gear ratio. If you use out of spec ratios, you're closer to a revmax than anything else

MGP = limited speeds, can't fine adjust from radio. Easy to install and configure. Mixture control is a plus

RL30 = multiple speeds, exact speed match but is too agressive for YS engines coupled with a fast servo. sensitive to engine tuning (much better than the RL10 though). Collective management possible

Revmax = simple limiter. Endorsed pilots and many others like it. I personally don't.

GV-1 = not even worth mentioning it. Weight, age and speed is all against it.

EMC2 = No official data. Future will tell.

Tony


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"Perfection and patience usually walk side by side..."
09-16-2008 05:51 PM
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lightningrc
Elite Veteran
Location: UK

Tony carm down man .lol

Sounds like you Prefer the multigov , yes I know what you mean about not being able to fine tune it from you Radio , but I feel once its set theres no need as it holds the head speed really consistant.

Theres no Arr that seemed a little high then , lets turn it down abit.

Could never get that with my CSM Revlocks
09-16-2008 06:01 PM
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tchavei
rrProfessor
Location: Portugal

lol

I'm obviously biased towards the MGP. Remember I wrote an extensive review about it based on several months of testing, re-testing and analysing the results. Thats why I tried to give unbiased info in my previous posts.

Honestly, get what YOU want but please lets be fair in all aspects. MGP is limited in some areas but has an advantage on others. Same as the ATG, same as the CSM. I've used CSM for years while I was running Hypers and others and I never did complain. This changed when I started to run YS (both ST4 and YS50). The MGP has been very good for me and, in all honesty, out of 3 speeds, I use 1 (plus OFF). I can't see the need, for my type of flying, to change but I'm absolutely sure that many will like to use two and maybe even four or five.

About the "knowing exactly the head speed", please understand that when I started in this hobby, I had no one to help me. How could I adjust or even tach my headspeed to be 100% sure I wasn't overspeeding or running under normal operation? I didn't knew how the heli should sound, I knew nothing. The way I solved it back then was to mount a revlock, programm it to the desired headspeed and then keep flicking out and back to it during a hover and "hear" if the engine changed tone. If it didn't, my throttle curve was ok at that speed and I could fly just on curves. This is why I never looked twice at devices like the revmax, Tjpro and this is also the reason that I didn't like it all when I found out about ATG's fixed ratios.

Tony


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"Perfection and patience usually walk side by side..."
09-16-2008 06:24 PM
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