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e-Lite Machines Corona > in flight corona pic
 
 
ry_goody
Heliman
Location: Tigard, OR

And there it is...

It actually flies very stable, no wobbles.

02-17-2002 12:13 AM
 
 
helinut
Senior Heliman
Location: Snohomish, WA

Looks neat, but not a very safe place to fly.
02-17-2002 01:32 AM
 
 
ry_goody
Heliman
Location: Tigard, OR

Ya I know, I am just now being able to hover (that pic is the highest I've gotten it so far) and I figured that while I was tyring to learn to hover the middle of the cultisac (no idea how to spell that) would be fine since I never really take it that high or move it alot, you cant tell in that pic but its a pretty big area. The nearest field is quite a walk away for 5 minutes of flight and I have no car. But now that I can hover it and am going to learn forward flight im probably gona have to walk there because I dont think the street will be big enough and im worried about crashing on pavement.
02-17-2002 02:11 AM
 
 
ItsBent
Senior Heliman
Location: Baltimore MD.

RFI?

So you have a system in place to keep the RF in the cul-de-sac then? Can I get a set of plans for that?
02-17-2002 03:50 AM
 
 
Wess94
Senior Heliman
Location: College Park, Md

clarity

we all have to learn at our own pace and in our own place..some have more luxury of wide open spaces and some of us dont..whatever it takes to get a newbie like myself and obviously this gentleman "comfortably" in the air should be commended...not shot down with comments about joining AMA..every homeowner has insurance enough to cover them for a liability claim,,and as I understand it AMA only picks up where that leaves off.....
Congrats on your flight..and keep the progression going..when you fell the need to broaden your flight path..then consider AMA or whatever is in your area...AMA might be great but the respect that is deserved with your first hovers should be commended, not disrespected with the "you need to spend more money to fly"..I bought a heli so I could fly in my own back yard..with no other costs than mechanical or eye candy.....if I wanted to fly planes that would be a different story..they need more room...Sorry for wasting forum space..stepping off the soap box now....
just hate to see anyone pressured into AMA or any other organization for that matter....
Probly just lost a bunch a brownie points with the veterans...but felt it needed to be said

Wess
02-17-2002 04:13 AM
 
 
ChopperDude
Senior Heliman
Location: Round Rock , TX

As much as I commend his first hover, the street in a residential neighborhood IS NOT the place to fly a radio control helicopter. They are not toys and he is putting his neighbors at risk. Who cares if insurance will cover it if it means a child or another person getting seriously injured. We need to respect our machines as the fun but dangerous products they are......
02-17-2002 04:18 AM
 
 
Optech
Key Veteran
Location: Vista/Oceanside, CA.

Come on guys!!!! Its a CORONA.......

Were not talking a screaming YS80 powered Fury or whatever. The thing hovers at something like 1000 rpm. I fly mine in a smaller residential area than this guy is. If the Slowflyer guys are not pressuered to fly at a sanctioned field by the AMA then why should a SMALL electric heli not be afforded the same consideration.

Unlike a plane, you chop the throttle and down it comes right now. So for a guy just hovering I think you guys are blowing a wee bit too hard. I say if your worried at all then get a spotter to keep other people away and keep it in your own yard.

In the old days I used to fly my 1/2A control line planes in the culdesac and actually got a few neighborhood kids interested in something other than drugs.

Mike

Viva La Airtronics!
02-17-2002 05:00 AM
 
 
RCL
Senior Heliman
Location: Scottsdale, Arizona

my only comment - Very dangerous. My other fellow pilots spent the time expaining why!!!
02-17-2002 05:01 AM
 
 
jugger18
Heliman
Location: Madison WI

corona

For those of you that are not aware the corona is the newest heli from lite machines. It is fixed pitch so cutting the throttle drops it like a rock
02-17-2002 05:59 AM
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fritzthecat
Key Veteran
Location: New Orleans

Man, talk about some paranoid old foggies. It's a electric LMH heli, it weighs what a paound and change. Heck, a spiderweb will trap it and bring it down. According to you guys tousands could be killed in the riots after the evil heli runs amok and scratches some soccer moms yuppie mobile. You propably don't even run your Radio Shack electric cars in a location like that in case somebody might step on them and break their back. Let's not get totally overboard with the safety nazi mentality.
You people would have heart attacks seeing where I do my runups with headloaders.

Fritz
02-17-2002 09:42 AM
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KeyserSoze
Heliman
Location: Nashville TN

Having seen a corona fly up close and personal and seen someone hit with a blade. I doubt it could cause any more injury or damange than a frisbee or a softball. Those blades on it are soft flexible plastic that you can fold in half, and if someone is using a micro radio chances are they are using a single conversion micro reciver with a range of about 500 feet, so interference shouldn't be a problem. Quite a few corona pilots fly them in the house or the garage. (I fly my hornet around the living room). So taking into consideration the size design and weight of the corona, it seems reasonably safe to fly in a backyard or a cul de sac. I stronlgy doubt you could even break a window with one.


Good job on the hovering dude.


Michael
02-17-2002 12:03 PM
 
 
PHI flyer
Senior Heliman
Location: Bowie, Maryland

I can take both side here. I flew in a culdisac like he does with a concept30 when I started. Yes its dangerous but when you first get that heli you want to fly it and you will try it any place you can. I'm sure 99% of us have done something we should'nt have. Also, I have been chopped with LMH blades. It was a 110 not a corona but I got 3 serious slashes in my arm and that was right through the coat I was wearing. I was holding it down by the skid while it was at idle with one hand and I went to pick up the tx and accidentally hit the throttle stick to full and the heli tipped into my arm. So I'm here to tell ya those little plactic blades can do some serious rippin. Dont't be fooled by them.
02-17-2002 03:38 PM
 
 
alvinrc
Veteran
Location: Mobile, AL, USA

I am only seeing the flying conditions as shown on the photo.
Who knows what is on other side of camera.
If a bunch of kids are close to chopper, I would not support him flying there.
If area is large and clear enough for type chopper, traffic is not there, and people not present or kept back; I see not too much wrong.

I have seen some hot shot flying in "proper" areas that certainly was not the safest it could have been with no one jumping up in arms.

Has a lot to do with who you are and what bunch your clic is.

Whatever the situation is; there is no reason to react to a kid or for that matter anyone, with an Ahole attitude.
Could turn the kid off or at least scare him from the forum where he could pick up some good help/advice.
02-17-2002 04:30 PM
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Dragon2115
Key Veteran
Location: New England

Un Freakin Believable

Before I get started here, good job on the hovering ry_goody. I know what your saying about the long walk and the short flight time. Maybe you could get a couple of extra batteries so it would be more worth it to you.

===================================================

Now to the point I wanted to respond to.

I see that tact isn't the strongest suit for some people around here. There are nicer ways to give advice to a new pilot than raking him over the coals. Jesus H. Christ, if I had run into people like you as my first contact I'd never have even gotten into the hobby, I'd be too convinced it was full of over inflated ego maniacal a-holes!

First off, as mentioned already, you haven't got a clue what's on the other side of that camera. The entire population of the cul de sac could be standing there watching him.

Second, I'd like to see just how close some of the self proclaimed safety police here hover with their 60's or 80/91's when they're checking their tracking or looking for a vibration. And I've read several accounts of helis of this size flying for MILES uncontrolled after having a battery failure.

And as for the AMA, the only reason I even carry AMA is because I have to in order to fly at fun flys and at the club fields I visit. In my district (district 1) the AMA is as useless as teets on a bull when it comes to representing the heli community. They have demonstrated conclusively here that they don't like helis and don't give a damn if we're banned from every field where planks fly.

Bottom line, get off your high horse and help the guy by giving advice rather than berating him. You should be ashamed of yourselves for speaking to him in the way that you did. Kids are the future of this hobby, not a bunch of old farts. Keep discouraging them like this and this aspect of the hobby will be dead before you know it.

And this is coming from someone that HAS tangled with his own heli after the t/r failed and it was caught by the wind sending it straight back at me and my feet grew roots.
02-17-2002 05:17 PM
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christianzx
Heliman
Location: Boston

Well said Dragon. I have a couple of friends that have bought park flyers (the Firebirds, against my advice ), which has further sparked their interest in getting involved in larger, nitro powered planks and helicopters. If someone told them they couldn't fly their park flyers at the local park, had to get AMA insurance and fly at fields that take 30 mins to get to, they may have never given it a chance.

If this was a nitro heli, I could see reason for concern. This is just a small electric heli. I think the people that raised these concerns and posted those useless polls would be shocked if they came to one of my club's indoor fly-ins and saw people flying foam planes and small electric helicopters in a GYMNASIUM with SPECTATORS. Gasp!
02-17-2002 05:51 PM
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Dragon2115
Key Veteran
Location: New England

Ron, it's not what you said that I have an issue with, it's how you said it to him. The way you said it to him was basically a slap in the face. Kids that get into hobbies like this look for acceptance and encouragement from the senior players in the game. When they come out and slam them they get turned off very fast by it. This also leads to them avoiding asking for help and advice because they're afraid they'll get ripped again in public.
02-17-2002 06:11 PM
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christianzx
Heliman
Location: Boston

I can understand making a remark just to remind him to fly safely, but it can be done in a tactful way to make him feel welcome. If I was a newbie and came here with that picture and got the responses that are in this thread, along with those two polls about ama insurance and residential flying, it wouldn't have made me too happy thinking these are the people I was going to have to fly with. That's all.
02-17-2002 06:11 PM
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Dragon2115
Key Veteran
Location: New England

That's ok Ron. It's easy to do and I'm just as guilty as anyone on this issue. He's learning, and being the seniors in this, we must be the guides here. Let's try to keep young people like ry_goody encouraged, motivated, AND safe.

Happy flying Ron,

Dragon
02-17-2002 06:27 PM
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clueless
Senior Heliman
Location: somewhere in between

Jobs a good 'un goody
nice to see you having FUN.

http://www.stormloader.com/users/tesla/tesla.htm
02-17-2002 07:54 PM
 
 
helicopter34
Veteran
Location: New Jersey, exit 82

Has anyone ever been to toys r us

First of all I don't want to rustle any feathers, but seeing as how argueing is my favorite thing in the world, I just had to say a few words. No offense to anyone, I just wanted to say I thought it was pretty safe. Its the same issue as with other things, guilty by associating. Much like how my mom would freak out if I pointed my little toy guns at her when I was a kid, she said never point any gun at anyone. Even though it was just a toy, its a scaled down version of something very dangerous, and as a matter of semantics, she said respect it like it was real, even though it shot plastic bullets. Well my point, just because a corona is considered a scaled down rc heli, it is expected to be used with the same caution as a real one. Well I personally don't think it is that dangerous. I mean you can go by the arguement, you can slip and fall on a rollor skate someone left around... But like my subject title, have you been to toys r us. Even with all the crap with safe toys and what not. All those little toy things, like helicopters, that you pull the string and they wizz off at high speeds.

I think it is good, although probably not neccessary because I think goody is probably a responsible kid, which should be evident from the hobby he picked, but it is good to still remind someone, this is potentially dangerous, don't go wizzing it by your neighbor's dogs.

And also not to offend anyone, I think it was a little bit of and issue of him being a kid. I being 18 have just gotten over that stage where everyone treats you like a moron. I have been discouraged from many hobbies and activities just because I wasn't old enough to be respected. Ask yourself, if goody was 30, would you have ordered him around or would you have said just be careful. Well that is all for now. Please try to keep personal attacks to a minimum on this response, as I have not mentioned any names. Except goody.

Good job goodie. I couldn't describe the feeling of satisfaction of actually hovering. I honestly thought everyone was lieing to me and rc helicopter were a myth and they would never fly(just kidding).
02-17-2002 09:23 PM
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