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Beginners Corner > Trex 600 -N, Po-going
 
 
H. Wayne S
Heliman
Location: Gray, Ga. USA

Throttle. How do I cut throttle back 5%?
09-10-2008 12:49 AM
 
 
MMike
Elite Veteran
Location: Holland,Mi-USA

Jeff

Good one.
09-10-2008 12:49 AM
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MMike
Elite Veteran
Location: Holland,Mi-USA

Jeff has made a good point.

Helis don't take well to ratchets in the TX.

Do you know how to take out the "click stuff"?

I would try his suggestion, but you also need a "read" on your headspeed.
09-10-2008 12:52 AM
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H. Wayne S
Heliman
Location: Gray, Ga. USA

I thought I would:
#1 take the clicker off,
#2 reduce the pitch curv.
#3 reduce the throttle by 5% if I can figure out how.

You guys are great,
Thanks,
09-10-2008 12:53 AM
 
 
Way2slow
Veteran
Location: Jeffersonville Ga

I think you have something wrong in the head. Check/Replace the rubber bushings on the spindle. Make sure things are sliding smooth as you increase/decrease pitch.

The problem you're having is the exact same problem I'm having with my 450SE V2. I've chased that rabit for a while now thinking it was a glitch or something with the radio, ecu or motor. I finally took the V1 head I have on my heli-max and put it on my V2. The dam thing flew perfect with the V1 head. I've looked at that head every way you can and I see nothing wrong, but going to replace the rubber o-rings and see what happens, (I've just got to order them first).

My 600 lifts off just as smooth as silk and very stable in a hover, If you're down my way, we can put my head on yours and see what happens, I'll bet you're problem goes away.
09-10-2008 12:54 AM
 
 
MMike
Elite Veteran
Location: Holland,Mi-USA

HW

To answer your throttle question,

If you're flying in "normal"

Position 2 and 3 are say at 70%,

Try 65%, and CAREFULLY see what you get.
09-10-2008 12:55 AM
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H. Wayne S
Heliman
Location: Gray, Ga. USA

Heck, I'll make it a point to come up your way if it will help.
I'll contact you later to see when is convenient with you.

First I'm going to try the recommendations here. If no progress, I'll be on the road.

Thanks !!!!
09-10-2008 12:59 AM
 
 
H. Wayne S
Heliman
Location: Gray, Ga. USA

Thanks Mike I'll do that tomorrow morning when I can get to the field.
09-10-2008 01:00 AM
 
 
MMike
Elite Veteran
Location: Holland,Mi-USA

Also,

Do you have Expo "ON" on the throttle?
09-10-2008 01:01 AM
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MMike
Elite Veteran
Location: Holland,Mi-USA

Wayne,

Be careful.

You've got a bad a$$ heli.

Do you have someone there to help you?

Dabbling CAN be dangerous.

Way2slow has LOTS of experience. I'd be taking him up on his offer if you can.
09-10-2008 01:06 AM
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MMike
Elite Veteran
Location: Holland,Mi-USA

[quote]Also,

Do you have Expo "ON" on the throttle?



Worth repeating.

COULD be your hole problem.
09-10-2008 01:09 AM
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dave75d
Veteran
Location: Jacksonville, FL

OK, now youre cheating. hes got it in the air, who set it up first? expo? when i first got mine, the guys at the field told me expo was for experienced pilots, not the new guy! i think i got shafted.

ten grand in helis and all i can do is hover
09-10-2008 01:54 AM
 
 
H. Wayne S
Heliman
Location: Gray, Ga. USA

Mike, yes I have Expo on on throttle.
I hate to say this, But I'm a damn good Plank, as you call them, pilot.
I have a Carden 40% Edge, Carden 40% Cap, Aeroworks 40% Yak, QQ 33% Python and more and I can hang with the best of them in the 3D arena. BUT--------- This Heli thing has got me by the kahoonas. I can't get enough of it and I fly every day. It is a real challenge and very rewarding. And if I can get these curvs thingies right I can move on to the next step.
Yep, I know it's a Bad A$$ bird, thats why I got it to learn on.
Believe me, I will take his offer of help. Learn with the best you cannot go wrong.
09-10-2008 01:55 AM
 
 
MMike
Elite Veteran
Location: Holland,Mi-USA

Wayne

I'm delighted to hear you're an experienced man.

Good Luck.

Keep us posted.
09-10-2008 02:09 AM
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H. Wayne S
Heliman
Location: Gray, Ga. USA

OK, turned the clicker upside down and adjusted the tention on throttle stick.
Cut the throttle down 5% as per.
Adjusted the pitch curve to give it 5 degrees at #3 and 6 degrees at #4 . Bird still lifts off the ground @ the #3 position on the throttle.
On initial throttle up, the engine sounds good, BUT, I land and go up again the engine is, as one said, "cooking".
I am still in normal flight. No guts to go to 1 or 2 until I get this streightened out.
Six flights so far this morning fiddeling with this thing
Going back out at 10:00.
09-10-2008 01:07 PM
 
 
MMike
Elite Veteran
Location: Holland,Mi-USA

You want to hover at mid stick.

6 or 7 degrees.

3/4 should be about 9 degrees.

Right?
09-10-2008 01:14 PM
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MMike
Elite Veteran
Location: Holland,Mi-USA

Also, If you're climbing vs. hovering at 6 or 7 degrees,

THEN, you know you want to lower your headspeed.
09-10-2008 01:36 PM
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nivlek
rrProfessor
Location: Norfolk England

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I think you have something wrong in the head.

That wasn't nice .

At the end of the day , it gets dark .
09-10-2008 04:14 PM
 
 
helical
Senior Heliman
Location: Bowling Green, KY

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You want to hover at mid stick.

6 or 7 degrees.

For a 3D set up you want mid stick to be 0 degrees. Hover occurs at about 3/4 stick.
09-10-2008 05:45 PM
 
 
TRACERBOB
Senior Heliman
Location: Panama City, FL USA

H.Wayne S,
I fly a Raptor but I am using the same radio as you (9303). I understand the issues your having at or below hover because I went through that. I fixed it by "flattening" the pitch curve at or below hover. I hover a point 4 (66%)on the pitch curve which is 5 to 5-1/2 degrees. By adjusting point 3 (50%)to 3 degrees instead of zero degrees, I increased the "resolution" meaning more stick movement, less pitch change. Now, I am able to lift off, stop and hold a hover 1 inch off the ground if desired, and landings are super smooth. Try it, it works for me.

Try not. Do or do not. There is no try
09-10-2008 05:46 PM
 
 
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