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scatbass
Heliman
Location: Hiram, GA

OK, here's the rule. No negatives about the "other" candidate at all. You do, you go on my ignore list immediately and without warning.

Let's hear the positive things, backed by facts, that your candidate has to offer. Convince the opposite side why they should vote for your candidate, not why they shouldn't vote for theirs.

This should be a first for RR.



Mike
08-30-2008 05:38 PM
 
 
Dennis
Senior Heliman
Location: Orygon

That will be a first. Good luck.

08-30-2008 05:41 PM
 
 
derek533
Senior Heliman
Location: Edmond, Oklahoma

Mike, in order to have a positive discussion, it's going to take a rational thinker. We have seen over and over again that there are a couple of guys on here who aren't capable of that.

But I hope we can discuss it. Sealer, you need to focus on issues, and not the poster. Stop referring to us as "stinking Cons" and maybe we'll take you seriously. BTW, you don't like McCain and you don't like Obama so who are you supporting?

If I thought you weren't my friend...I just don't think I could bear it.
08-30-2008 06:09 PM
 
 
helibandit
Senior Heliman
Location: Jacksonville, North Carolina - United States

vote mccain for 4 reasons

#1 He is NOT obama

#2 Palin is hot

#3 He will die soon

#4 Because Lou is a Homo

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08-30-2008 09:28 PM
 
 
Dennis
Senior Heliman
Location: Orygon

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#1 He is NOT obama

#2 Palin is hot

#3 He will die soon

#4 Because Lou is a Homo

I'm crackin up here

08-30-2008 10:10 PM
 
 
emag remrofni
Key Veteran
Location: Los Angeles California

McCain has a lifetime experience that Obama does not

I believe "drill drill drill" can save our economy combined with keeping the tax cuts

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08-30-2008 10:18 PM
 
 
Brokenlink
Veteran
Location: Oakdale,Ca.

I'll second helibandit,mainly because of #2,and #1.
This is going to be a short thread.Nothing positve to say about Obama,been thinkin hard too!!!

"Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards."
08-30-2008 11:13 PM
 
 
Brovic777
Elite Veteran
Location: Los Angeles, CA

Obama's Tax Cut!!!!!

www.ObamaTaxCut.com



Hope Scatbass keeps his word and locks out all those negative posters.

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08-31-2008 12:14 AM
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TrexRookie
Key Veteran
Location: San Francisco, CA

$110,000/yr or less... good to know where that threshold lies. The vast majority of the United States population makes less than that, so that's definitely a good sign.
08-31-2008 12:16 AM
 
 
Brovic777
Elite Veteran
Location: Los Angeles, CA

Yea, I should get a nice fat $1000 tax cut thankx to Obama.

"Yes We Can!!!!"





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08-31-2008 12:39 AM
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MX400 DUDE
Senior Heliman
Location: Oklahoma

Voting for McCain because I agree with most of his policy's and I believe that he intends to do what he says. I also think Palin will make a excellent V.P. even if she is low on experience because she seems to have clean ideals and she is a member of the NRA, what more can you ask for?


On a side note: with Obama our taxes will be so high we won't even notice the tax refund. Not to mention we will need to leave this country to get decent health care once he destroys our system.
08-31-2008 03:50 AM
 
 
Dennis
Senior Heliman
Location: Orygon

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On a side note: with Obama out taxes will be so high we won't even notice the tax refund.

The type of tax increases Yomama Obama plans to do will cut into business expansion, spending, and jobs for people.

It will come back to bite us all on the lower pay scales. They don't mention that rich people spend money to. Not just on themselves. Some do. Maybe its because they earned it. They do put back into the system just like we all do. Only, they do it on a bigger scale, which helps support the economy, and create jobs. If Obama took more of their money, then they have less to put back into the system. That does make a difference.

In the words of a hero of mine:

"A Poor Man Can't Get You A Job"

Just my 2 cents.
08-31-2008 03:57 AM
 
 
Brovic777
Elite Veteran
Location: Los Angeles, CA

Quote 

First Black Elected to Head Harvard's Law Review

By FOX BUTTERFIELD, SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMES
Published: February 6, 1990

LEAD: The Harvard Law Review, generally considered the most prestigious in the country, elected the first black president in its 104-year history today. The job is considered the highest student position at Harvard Law School.

The new president of the Review is Barack Obama, a 28-year-old graduate of Columbia University who spent four years heading a community development program for poor blacks on Chicago's South Side before enrolling in law school. His late father, Barack Obama, was a finance minister in Kenya and his mother, Ann Dunham, is an American anthropologist now doing fieldwork in Indonesia. Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii.


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08-31-2008 09:56 PM
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Cambo
Senior Heliman
Location: Phoenix, Arizona

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I believe "drill drill drill" can save our economy combined with keeping the tax cuts

This still doesn't make sence to me. Why exactly does everyone think drilling is going to solve the energy crisis. Drilling is going to take a minum of 10 years before anything reaches the market. What if oil hits $250-300 a barrel at that point? The bottom line is oil will continue to go up in price. It might settle for a bit like it is know but it WILL go up again......it has to. The world is demanding drstically more oil each year and the porduction has already reached its peak.

This is my opinion. Humanity is faced with two options. Spend billions upon billions of dollars and hope that we can find more oil than we are currently using. ORRR, we can use those billions of dollars to help transtion to a new energy source.

There is 1.5times as much "usable" solar energy that hits the earth each day than we use in the US in one year.

If we reconfigured the US powerline setup up to 1/2 of the energy of the US could be powered by wind.

We sadley would rather spend 2 trillion dollars fighting a wars.
08-31-2008 10:22 PM
 
 
TrexRookie
Key Veteran
Location: San Francisco, CA



From a physics standpoint, many of our alternative fuel solutions such as hydrogen gas (acquired through hydrolysis) are merely ways of storing energy. For example, you take a power plant, send electricity to a hydrogen plant, and voila. Hydrogen gas is produced. But impact on carbon footprint is minimal, and on the whole, you're still producing waste and consuming resources, just in a different form. But if you could store energy that the Sun gives us cheaply and efficiently, then it would be more feasible to convert to hydrogen fuel. Seems like this company's got the cheap part down. They've developed a way to print solar cells with deskjet technology.
08-31-2008 10:28 PM
 
 
1stPlace
Senior Heliman
Location: Ohio USA

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Why exactly does everyone think drilling is going to solve the energy crisis.

No one ever claimed it would. And, no one ever said we shouldn't develop alternatives. We need to do both, and we need to do both right now!

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Drilling is going to take a minum of 10 years before anything reaches the market.

Wrong! It can be done in as little as 4 years. But, practicality shows us that it will be closer to 6 years.
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This is my opinion. Humanity is faced with two options. Spend billions upon billions of dollars and hope that we can find more oil than we are currently using. ORRR, we can use those billions of dollars to help transtion to a new energy source.

Well, theres your problem... It's not "humanities money". It is the oil companies money, not humanities.

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08-31-2008 10:33 PM
 
 
TrexRookie
Key Veteran
Location: San Francisco, CA

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Well, theres your problem... It's not "humanities money". It is the oil companies money, not humanities.

That is one of the biggest problems with the whole oil industry. It is obvious that they care only about profits, not the people, not the environment. However a man by the name of T. Boone Pickens has expressed interest in wind power, which would be quite an interesting prospect. his website is http://www.pickensplan.com ... I haven't looked extensively into his plan or his motivations, but at least he's acknowledging that oil won't sustain us forever. Anyone else have any insight on this guy?
08-31-2008 10:42 PM
 
 
Dennis
Senior Heliman
Location: Orygon

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T. Boone Pickens has expressed interest in wind power, which would be quite an interesting prospect. his website is http://www.pickensplan.com ... I haven't looked extensively into his plan or his motivations, but at least he's acknowledging that oil won't sustain us forever.

He has expressed a lot of interest in everything including wind and solar.

He also agrees that drilling for new oil is good. We hear that on every commercial he has on TV.

Just in case you missed it.
08-31-2008 10:52 PM
 
 
TrexRookie
Key Veteran
Location: San Francisco, CA

no, I heard it, but he didn't really go into much detail regarding the drilling... where would we drill, and how much drilling would we do? I guess my interest would be, how would new drilling fit into this plan, and at what (environmental) cost?
08-31-2008 10:57 PM
 
 
Dennis
Senior Heliman
Location: Orygon

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no, I heard it, but he didn't really go into much detail regarding the drilling... where would we drill, and how much drilling would we do? I guess my interest would be, how would new drilling fit into this plan, and at what (environmental) cost?

Well, seems that environmental impact would be very minimal based on what has transpired in the past with new drilling.

Alaska is an example of responsible drilling. There has been minimal environmental impact there, other than that very large tanker spill many years ago. Not sure if you want to count that into the argument here. I am sure there was some very hard learned lessons there, and changes have been made.

And, they (In Alaska) are laying a new 40 billion dollar pipe line now to at least help get us off foreign oil. Obviously, its not the only solution. But, it helps a bit.

Just the simple fact that Pickens mentioned we still need to drill is enough for me. He knows that there is absolutely nothing out there that can repalce oil in the entire world completely. He recognizes that we are stuck with it, its ingrained in the entire world's economic structure. At the same time, he is adamant there are other resources to explore and is willing to invest his own money to maximize them. Thats the message I get from him.

T Boone Pickens is quickly becoming a reliable authority on our fuel resources.
08-31-2008 11:36 PM
 
 
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