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Off Topics > Bernie Ward 7 years in prison
 
 
Stet
Elite Veteran
Location: Long Beach CA

Wow, looks like they are stickin it to this pedophile, 7 years. In isolation so the other inmates don't skin him.

Liberal radio and SF loons will miss you bernie. I won't.

But when child porn traders get more prison time than repeat offender armed carjackers, I think things are a bit out of balance. But only fools expects balance out of the justice system anyway. Politics find their way to sentencing, nothing new there.

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_10326...rce=most_viewed

keepin' it real
08-29-2008 06:04 AM
 
 
dotcom
Heliman
Location: USA

dang, Lou will have a field day with this news.
08-29-2008 06:25 AM
 
 
Dennis
Senior Heliman
Location: Orygon

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But when child porn traders get more prison time than repeat offender armed carjackers, I think things are a bit out of balance. But only fools expects balance out of the justice system anyway. Politics find their way to sentencing, nothing new there.

So, you think child porn trading is no big deal or what?

08-29-2008 06:28 AM
 
 
born2rc
Senior Heliman
Location: Rolla, Missouri

EXACTLY Dennis !!!

How can anyone compare protecting a child vs. a car, way beyond me ...

Bob
08-29-2008 07:05 AM
 
 
TrexRookie
Key Veteran
Location: San Francisco, CA

Serves the guy right... don't really give a damn about what political affiliation he is... only that he's a perverted criminal and that he likes kids. he deserves what he got and that's that.
08-29-2008 08:05 AM
 
 
Mutt
Key Veteran
Location: t ca usa

they should give the perverted libtard 70 years as far as I am concerned and anyone who supports him and thinks he is a "good man" should be right along with him. sick freak.
08-29-2008 12:52 PM
 
 
pilotError
Key Veteran
Location: Long Island, NY

All the kids they exploited so he can make a profit will never get over what happened to them.

Hang Em High!

Good Judgement comes from Experience. Great Judgement comes from Bad Experience.
08-29-2008 01:20 PM
 
 
TrexRookie
Key Veteran
Location: San Francisco, CA

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they should give the perverted libtard 70 years as far as I am concerned and anyone who supports him and thinks he is a "good man" should be right along with him. sick freak.

Oh for crying out loud, conservatives are every bit as capable as committing the same thing! Crimes are crimes, liberal or conservative. I'm neither, so the only reason I'm saying anything is that a) you ridicule liberals as though it's a bad thing to be.... Perhaps. But being a far right Conservative is just as bad!

I don't care what the crime is, or who commits it. They can be Liberal, Conservative, middle-of-the-road, or have absolutely ZERO political opinion. Fact of the matter is, he committed a crime. He was caught, he was convicted. Society is now a little bit better for not having that man on the streets.

Do I support him as a person for what he did? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Do I support liberal views?? Sure! ....that is, depending on the issue. Do I stereotype and label all liberals as pedophiles and child molesters? No. On the flip side, do I stereotype and label all CONSERVATIVES as bad shots who would shoot someone on a hunting trip with a shotgun? No.

If every liberal out there was a pedophile, we'd have some serious issues in this country. So yea. Perverted person? Yes. Perverted "libtard", as you so eloquently put it? Well, in my book, he forfeit any political affiliation the moment he chose to break the law.

http://dfa.meetup.com/boards/thread/2075382

There's a link showing a list of 46 Republicans who have committed crimes in the form of pedophilia, many of which include more than just trading child porn. Many of them actually PHYSICALLY MOLESTED kids! Does that mean that I feel all Republicans are pedophiles? I don't mean to post that link as a bash on Republicans. I mean to post it to show that people in BOTH political parties are capable of committing such crimes. After all, they are just people.

Bashing each other and mudslinging is EXACTLY what corrupt politicians want us to do. Because they know that while we bicker amongst ourselves about who's better than who, these guys get to commit crimes all across the board, often times unnoticed. It is one of the most basic diversionary tactics known to man, and so many average citizens play into it so blindly. Citizens, both liberal and conservative.

So instead of insulting, mudslinging, and muscle flexing trying to prove who's better, discuss. Debate. Do it with respect. That's the best, and most of the time, the ONLY way the CITIZENS of the United States of America will be able to make a difference. At the end of the day, it is the responsibility of the citizens as a whole to keep politicians in check. No one else. Our people divided into two distinct political parties isn't the problem, per se. The problem is that the people on either side of the fence simply refuse to listen to one another and work together by putting their heads together.

Blah. Rant over. All you guys on the extreme ends of the spectrum, either bugger off or take your blinders off. Yes you may be wrong, yes the other side may be right. But how will you ever know if you plug your ears and ignore what the other side has to say without hearing it or contemplating it?
08-29-2008 01:34 PM
 
 
wizen2002
Heliman
Location: Ca

why is it that poeple that get caught with child porn get prossecuted and not the original authors of these so called movies?

like if law was so fair wouldn't it make sense that the poeple who are the authors of these videos get arrested and prosecuted and movies removed from the internet...instead they leave the movies online and it just spread more evil ...

if the authors were arrested and movies removed it would stop a lot of fasly accused poeple...i think its a big hypocrite lure used against some others..
08-29-2008 01:48 PM
 
 
Boidman
Key Veteran
Location: home

I am reminded of Jack Handey. He had special thoughts, too.



wizen2002:
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why is it that poeple that get caught with child porn get prossecuted and not the original authors of these so called movies?

like if law was so fair wouldn't it make sense that the poeple who are the authors of these videos get arrested and prosecuted and movies removed from the internet...instead they leave the movies online and it just spread more evil ...

if the authors were arrested and movies removed it would stop a lot of fasly accused poeple...i think its a big hypocrite lure used against some others..
08-29-2008 02:15 PM
 
 
wizen2002
Heliman
Location: Ca

where ever he was..hahaha...reminds me of where ever you are now...hahaha
08-29-2008 02:17 PM
 
 
1stPlace
Senior Heliman
Location: Ohio USA

What a pathetic defense.

- the San Francisco Chronicle
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Ward's attorney said today that the charges are based on incidents that occurred more than four years ago and were part of research for a book.

"As everybody knows, Bernie, for over 20 years, has been a progressive, opposed to insensitive authority - he has been a champion of charities, nonprofits for the homeless," said Doron Weinberg, who appeared in federal court today as Ward's lawyer.

"More than three years ago, Bernie was doing research for a book he was doing on hypocrisy in America," Weinberg said.

As part of the research, Ward downloaded "a few images" of child pornography, and, Weinberg said, "it came to the attention of the government in late 2004."

"They investigated and they never found any involvement in child pornography other than this period that he accessed these images," Weinberg said. "The government knows that Bernie was doing this for an investigation he was doing for a book. But the government believes he violated the letter of the law and they have gone ahead and prosecuted him."

Weinberg stressed that "the fact that these events happened three years ago and they are just being prosecuted shows the fact that nobody believes that he is a child predator."

"He is just being prosecuted for a mistake he made (more than) three years ago," the lawyer said.

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08-29-2008 03:09 PM
 
 
Dennis
Senior Heliman
Location: Orygon

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Oh for crying out loud, conservatives are every bit as capable as committing the same thing! Crimes are crimes, liberal or conservative. I'm neither, so the only reason I'm saying anything is that a) you ridicule liberals as though it's a bad thing to be.... Perhaps. But being a far right Conservative is just as bad!

The original intent of this topic almost came out and sympathized with the guy.

Who gives a rip if he was conservative or a lib.

He should be locked up with the rest of the inmates in a hard core prison so that he has full time roommates to get acquainted with.

08-29-2008 03:20 PM
 
 
Pistol_Pete
Elite Veteran
Location: Tampa Bay non-Buccaneer

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What a pathetic defense.

actually quite ingenious and laughable BUT glad it did not work either way.

Can you imagine the whole courtroom breaking out in laughter when the lawyer said that piece?

That would have been priceless.

<><>...the lunatic is in my head...<><>
08-29-2008 04:00 PM
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psawya
Key Veteran
Location: Pyongtaek, Korea

A couple of rusty nails and a high stump would take care of his "urges"
09-01-2008 12:25 AM
 
 
r6stuntman
Senior Heliman
Location: Steger, IL USA

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A couple of rusty nails and a high stump would take care of his "urges"


Darn it, you beat me to it!!

Who really gives a crap what this guys politics or any other beliefs were. The only reason where hearing about it because the guy was a bit of a public figure. Thousands of these cases hit the courtrooms every year and few to none hit the media.

I think you would be hard pressed to find a psychologist who will tell you there is a cure for this sickness so Im with psawya.

Take em out to a field, nail their member to a stump, set a brushfire around them and toss em a rusty butter knife!

Old enough to know better, young enough not to care
09-01-2008 03:24 AM
 
 
scatbass
Heliman
Location: Hiram, GA

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Take em out to a field, nail their member to a stump, set a brushfire around them and toss em a rusty butter knife!

Whoa. That's hardcore.



Mike
09-01-2008 03:31 AM
 
 
r6stuntman
Senior Heliman
Location: Steger, IL USA

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Whoa. That's hardcore

Na, the knife gives them a choice.

The child victims didnt have the luxury of choice

Old enough to know better, young enough not to care
09-01-2008 03:42 AM
 
 
emag remrofni
Key Veteran
Location: Los Angeles California

Send him to San Francisco, I'm sure he'll get a warm welcome there.

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09-01-2008 06:19 AM
 
 
TrexRookie
Key Veteran
Location: San Francisco, CA

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Send him to San Francisco, I'm sure he'll get a warm welcome there.

I don't want him here.. you take him and do with him what you will. Need ideas of what to do? Here's a lil help..

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Take em out to a field, nail their member to a stump, set a brushfire around them and toss em a rusty butter knife!
09-01-2008 08:28 AM
 
 
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