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e-E-Sky Honey Bee- Lama- Belt CP- E-Smart > How to setup a HBK2 to fly

jrett
Senior Heliman
Location: san jose, ca.

This post is intended to help new folks who are considering the HBK2 get started and setup thier helicopters. Not all of these steps are necessary, but from my experience, anything short of this will result in a less than ideal helicopter.

1. If you bought the RTF, remove all the electronics.
2. If you bought the bare bones kit, then you're ready to start.
3. Replace the motor and ESC.
4. Upgrade the head to a metal one unless you don't mind wobbly flight.
5. Buy a decent HH gyro, digital tail servo and 3 good cyclic servos.
6. Buy a reciever for your computer radio, if you don't have a computer radio, spectrum and futaba make decent 6 and 7 channel radios.
7. Scrutinize your tail belt. Some of these have been known to come off in flight. Some have suggested to use some silicon lubricant spray on it as a cheap fix, though this didn't work for me. I would recommend the 43t pully kit. It comes with tensioner extensions which fixes this nicely. You can discard the 43t pulley as this may overspeed your tail.
8. Do the usual tail/head setup. Make sure that at 0 pitch, the levers in the head are at 90 degrees. Make sure your servo arms are at 90 degrees too. Check the tail to make sure the gain and control rod is setup correctly.

This is the basics. This is how you properly setup a hbk2.

Does anyone have anything to add? Let's try to keep this civil and constructive. Again, this is based off of my experiences.

08-21-2008 06:14 AM

jrett
Senior Heliman
Location: san jose, ca.

Oh, and one important thing. If you can, take it to your local hobby shop and have someone with experience look it over before your first flight.

08-21-2008 06:15 AM

fenderstrat
Elite Veteran
Location: Aston,Pa

you just wont let it go will you dude?Ok you are pissed because you have no clue how to set up or fly a heli,but its ok its just not for everyone,I suggest you try boats or cars,people who cant make it in the heli world usually do ok with those

PerformancePlusRC field rep
COMPASS helis field rep
Mini Titan/SE
HBK2
Futaba FASST

08-21-2008 12:42 PM

tryan02
rrProfessor
Location: Canton, Missouri

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Club President
Team No funds left.

08-21-2008 02:33 PM

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TJinGuy
Elite Veteran
Location: Socorro, NM - USA

Please don't feed the troll

- Chris

Variety+spice+life+supporting_paper_towel_industry=
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08-21-2008 02:41 PM

2old2fly
Veteran
Location: Mill Creek, Wa.

Okay, I've been sitting on the side-lines, watching this little fiasco, and keeping quiet. But in all fairness, I have to chime in here.

If I were brand new to this type of hobby, and went out & bought a Heli-in-a-Box that was advertised as "Ready to Fly", I would be less than impressed with the King as well.

Come on guys, admit it, as it comes out of the "RTF" box, the heli needs some work.
Yes, it's a good heli for the money, but the brushed motor, and rate gyro DO need to be changed right away, and the problems with the belt pulleys are nearly legend around here.
As to the radio.. it's probably as good as most RTF-included-in-the-box radios (barring the B400 of course). It's useable, but most suggest replacing it soon anyway (by "radio" I mean the Tx/Rx & servos).

So, let's be fair here.
The King is a great little 300 sized heli, provided you're deep enough into the hobby to be able to overcome the shortcomings, and MAKE it a great little heli.
If I had bought one as my first Heli, and came across those issues, knowing nothing else about this stuff, I'd have been pissed off too. And I suspect that many of you would have as well.

Yeah, Okay, jrett is doing a good job of jerking everyones chain, and maybe he's getting a chuckle out of it, or maybe he's just genuinely P-O'd because his RTF King was anything but that!

All I'm saying is that a little tolerance goes a long way.. on both sides of this discussion.

So ... go ahead, flame me, tag me as a troll, and block me too, just for standing up & disagreeing with you, and saying less than glowing things about the Esky sweetheart heli.
But ya know.. back when I was deciding which heli to buy first, and y'all suggested the King, you DID warn me that I'd have to change the motor & gyro right away, warned me that the radio, while serviceable, was not the best, and that it had problems (easily fixable) with the belt.

So, jrett isn't saying anything y'all haven't said yourselves, he's just less in love with the king than you are, and he's not sugar coating it.

Maybe he should just blow it up (maybe a close range 12ga shotgun blast while in a hover?), and get on with his life, and stop trolling here. Or maybe, he's just trying to get his heli flying right, and lacks the personal skills to relate to this group.

I'm just sayin'... ya know.

Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission.

08-21-2008 04:39 PM

DougsRC
Elite Veteran
Location: MA

Fair enough 2old, I doubt you would ever be labled a troll IMO. However this is NOT the first time jrett has come in saying the King is a POS. Before you ever posted here, he did the same thing.(twice before) Everyone gave him the simple solutions to his problems to no avail. The King is NOT the best heli on the market but if it was as unflyable as jrett says it is then NOBODY would be flying it. There wouldn't be tons of VIDS of it flying-- and flying well.
He should simply fly the heli he can fly and fly it

08-21-2008 05:13 PM

2old2fly
Veteran
Location: Mill Creek, Wa.

Hi Doug

Yep, I know. I've seen some of jretts handywork. And yep, he does come on here blasting the heli pretty hard, and I did make the comment that some tolerance was needed "on both sides" of this.

I know in other arenas, I've gotten in and unfairly blasted products too. The thing here is, that he's not completely wrong, he's just not to .. um . . kind . . . about his approach to a problem.

Helis are a complex subject, and even the best of them will fly like a rock if they're not set up right, even the beloved Trex (and yep, I've seen people blast those as POS too!!).

So, I'm not sure what I'm trying to say now. hahaha!

It sounds like jrett has a 450 that flies like "butter". So maybe he'll be happy with it, and go off and play with that for a while. And perhaps, while he's out there, he'll develop some understanding, and social skills, and realize that coming onto the Esky forum, and blasting everyones favorite heli just wasn't the best way to make friends, and influence people.

FWIW: I love my EXI, but there are folks out there wouldn't buy one if it was the last 450 on the market.

So.. we all just need to fly what we can fly, and be happy, and try to get along.

jrett - - - I tried to defend you man, but I'm just not sure I can keep it up.

Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission.

08-21-2008 06:10 PM

Gregor99
Elite Veteran
Location: Western Wa

My first helicopter was a Blade CP. I purchased it on the recommendation of a friend at work. Once I started having problems with it, I came here to RR and started researching the issues. I quickly discovered that I had made a BAD purchase decision and don't blame anyone else for this mistake. I failed to fully research my purchase and cannot hold Elfight or forum members accountable for my mistake.

Unlike the HBK2, there are no forum suggestions or upgrades that can make it fly good enough to be a viable trainer. I didn't complain, instead I started researching my next step. There were already a number of threads available on the HBK2 as well as helpful folks. With a very small amount of research I knew what I was getting into and was aware of the issues well before I made the purchase. This was almost a year ago and these threads and helpful people still available to anyone who cares to leverage them before buying. 2old came here for advice and now flies an EXI. The system works if you use it.

This forum, like most forums, is not the complaint department for the manufactures. We don't make the helicopters and have no way provide feedback to them or correct thier issues on the production line. We are just a bunch of owners that have come together using the Esky brand as the common bond.

Canton MO backyard flying club
West Coast Chapter

08-21-2008 06:21 PM

fenderstrat
Elite Veteran
Location: Aston,Pa

while I respect your opinion 2old I have to disagree on a few of the points,first,as far as jrett it was NOT his first heli,therefore he should know what getting a heli flying perfect entails,and a t-rex need LOTS of attention to get flying properly also,yes it is not a RTF,BUT tell me one RTF that "actually "is,the Blade400....PLEASE,yeah its RTF after you change the servos and gyro,the blade CP,dont think so.so If you need to add a few washers and go over the set up,for 200 bucks you are not doing bad

on his first post (months ago)he was told what to do to get the HBK flying great.He ignored EVERYONE,then he continues to PURPOSELY start threads that are MEANT to fire people up and then he gets offended when people respond.Everyone has a right to hate any heli they want,but to repeatedly start posts just to be annoying is unnecessary

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But ya know.. back when I was deciding which heli to buy first, and y'all suggested the King, you DID warn me that I'd have to change the motor & gyro right away, warned me that the radio, while serviceable, was not the best, and that it had problems (easily fixable) with the belt.

all you have to do is read and ask here,you will get the real deal,there is no false expectations of a RTF at all.there are DOZENS if not more posts you can refer to

PerformancePlusRC field rep
COMPASS helis field rep
Mini Titan/SE
HBK2
Futaba FASST

08-21-2008 10:56 PM

vortechZ230
Elite Veteran
Location: Michigan, U.S.A.

Most of his advice is all wrong!

Blue skies, Light Winds!

08-22-2008 12:47 AM

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jrett
Senior Heliman
Location: san jose, ca.

2old2fly,
Thanks for the support. I think you did a great job of explaining things.

The thing is, this wasn't my first heli, but it was one that I bought I think around the time I discovered RunRyder, so I didn't exactly get a lot of feedback on my purchase decision.

You know what they say, love is blind. I guess I could have been nicer, but I like to think of it as brutally honest. Like you said, I don't sugar coat it. I just don't understand how my feelings for my helicopter could upset anyone else.

Anyway, thanks again, I'm going to shut up now and leave this friendly forum.

08-22-2008 04:00 AM

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