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the Wasp
rrProfessor
Location: Vt

well I just saw it on TV, what a bunch of crap,, they showed NO proof of a body and no other proof that it was all true,, it was only 2 young men answering questions and the same photo as above..

Jim
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08-15-2008 09:18 PM
 
 
junkpilot
Senior Heliman
Location: Alamogordo N.M.

Bigfoot?

To quote Dougs R/C "DNA, to compare to what?"
Whoopie Goldburg!
Junkpilot

When you fly JUNK it's hard to tell when you've crashed!
08-15-2008 09:43 PM
 
 
jgunpilot
Senior Heliman
Location: Pollock, LA

A real Bigfoot couldn't be as ugly as her. If that picture is real, maybe Ted Danson will mate with the corpse.
08-15-2008 10:00 PM
 
 
junkpilot
Senior Heliman
Location: Alamogordo N.M.

Bigfoot

Is he already denying it?
Junkpilot

When you fly JUNK it's hard to tell when you've crashed!
08-15-2008 10:38 PM
 
 
DougsRC
Elite Veteran
Location: MA

Even if this one turns out to be a Hoax, it doesn't mean there aren't any snatchsquashes out there somewhere
08-15-2008 10:54 PM
 
 
PilotDazVeteran - Location: Seattle, WA -
Good grief... I'm astounded at how many people on this planet are so very:



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08-16-2008 01:01 AM
 
 
GyroFreak
Key Veteran
Location: Florida ... 28° 50' N 81° 16' W

I have a nephew who wears a size 14 +. Does that qualify as a big foot ????

Support bacteria. They're the only culture some people have. !
08-16-2008 01:06 AM
 
 
DougsRC
Elite Veteran
Location: MA

YEP !
08-16-2008 01:07 AM
 
 
1stPlace
Senior Heliman
Location: Ohio USA

If anyone had ever found proof of Bigfoot, all they would need to do, is let some bloodhounds sniff it and let the dogs lead them to the creature. It really would be that simple... Since no one has ever brought forward real proof, Bigfoot must be relegated to the myth bin.

Hat man dir mal ins Gehirn geschissen und vergessen umzuruhren?
08-16-2008 02:24 AM
 
 
Brokenlink
Veteran
Location: Oakdale,Ca.

Those hounds could never keep up with bigfeet Didn't you just see that Dood seen him in Wiscosin on monday and they found him in Georgia.He would outrun a hound.
08-16-2008 03:56 AM
 
 
1stPlace
Senior Heliman
Location: Ohio USA

Your link ain't the only thing that's broken!

Hat man dir mal ins Gehirn geschissen und vergessen umzuruhren?
08-16-2008 03:58 AM
 
 
Brokenlink
Veteran
Location: Oakdale,Ca.

Maybe,but it still shoots the hell outta your idea.
08-16-2008 04:04 AM
 
 
laughingstill
Key Veteran
Location: Gainesville, Fl, USA

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I have a nephew who wears a size 14 +. Does that qualify as a big foot ???
Gooney Goo Goo!!

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08-16-2008 04:09 AM
 
 
1stPlace
Senior Heliman
Location: Ohio USA

LOL! So that's why Russia invaded Georgia! They just want to be able to claim that they found Bigfeet first! Those bastards!

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Gooney Goo Goo!!

LOL That takes me back! Aunt Bunny

Hat man dir mal ins Gehirn geschissen und vergessen umzuruhren?
08-16-2008 04:10 AM
 
 
Andrew_S
Veteran
Location: Gaston, South Carolina

they didnt find bigfoot, they found my ex wife.....

Drewskie

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08-16-2008 06:20 AM
 
 
rcsoar4fun
Veteran
Location: Corpus Christi, TX

Who knows, scientists recently discovered 100,000 gorillas they didn't know about. Its fair to believe a semi intelligent animal could do a decent job of not being found if it wanted to.

I am a Master of three martial arts including ninjitsu, which means I wear the special boots
08-16-2008 06:22 AM
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DougsRC
Elite Veteran
Location: MA

I agree with you rcsoar4fun, many species yet to be discovered. There is more uninhabited by "man" forest in the U.S. and Canada than most people realize.
08-16-2008 01:54 PM
 
 
ckoelliker
Key Veteran
Location: St. Simons, GA

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Who knows, scientists recently discovered 100,000 gorillas they didn't know about. Its fair to believe a semi intelligent animal could do a decent job of not being found if it wanted to.

That is odd, I do not think that there are 100,000 gorillas left.

How many Big foots would there have to be to be able to sustain a population?
08-16-2008 02:39 PM
 
 
Brokenlink
Veteran
Location: Oakdale,Ca.

The short answer: No one knows, and no one ever will know for sure. There are only estimates. The informed estimates range from roughly 2000 - 6000 individuals for all of North America (which includes all Canada and southern Alaska).

Making Estimates of the Bigfoot Population

Estimating abundance of an animal population is as complicated as it is inexact. There are many different formulas and methods for estimating population sizes, all of which depend on at least a few specimens being available to study, tag, and/or take sub-sample counts of, in a controlled study area by trained biologists. For the rarest animals that receive little to no attention from field biologists, such as wolverines and bigfoots, the process of making estimates is even more speculative and difficult.

The processes for traditional animal counts involve equations and almost constant reevaluation of the methods used. Very little carries over from a strict, methodical scientific approach when the biologists only have testimonial data to work from. The only thing that does carry over is the idea of "observability."

"Observability" in the field of wildlife biology is expressed as a number. The number is the accepted ratio of unobserved individuals to observed individuals in a given species population, or sub-sample of the population. For example, if mountain quail are being counted in a given study area, and the observability factor is 4 to 1, and 20 quail are actually counted in the study area, then the quail population in that study area is estimated at 80.

This is an oversimplification of what goes into the entire process of determining an abundance estimate, not to mention how the proper observability factor is determined and tested.

When making abundance estimates of a rare, elusive species such as wolverines or bigfoots, the only numbers that serve as "counts" are the credible sighting reports from the public. That brings in a lot more subjectivity into the process because it boils down to a matter of opinion as to which reports are reliable enough to be part of that count. Also, the observability factors for the most elusive animals are more subjective and basically impossible to test. But there has to be some observability factors if abundance estimates are to be made. The observability factors for bigfoots are estimates themselves -- based mostly on behavioral considerations of both human observers and bigfoots, and upon habitat size and the ballpark numbers for credible reports.

Some of the considerations are:
The numbers of credible reports and track finds since that information started being gathered in the early 1960's.
The fact that most observers described having a lot of hesitation before reporting their observation (caused by the fear of ridicule from their peers) -- which suggests that most observers never come forward to report their observations.
Observations consistently suggesting extreme elusiveness, fear of humans, nocturnal feeding, and nomadism.
Observations consistently suggesting that bigfoots rarely ever remain in groups of more than three.
Observations consistently suggesting that bigfoots and bigfoot groups need a lot of space but stay more or less on the move in forests throughout their lives.
Observations suggesting that they are both foragers and predators.
Observations suggesting that they try to avoid leaving tracks where possible (other predators are known to do the same).
The two most common considerations are:
How many individuals must there be in order to sustain a viable breeding population, and
How many is too many to be reasonable, considering the relative scarcity of observations and track finds compared to other animals.
A question presented by these two considerations is: Whether the figure for consideration #1 is higher than the figure for consideration #2. In other words, would a minimum breeding population size necessarily exceed a reasonableness threshold given the scarcity of observations and evidence gathered by humans? That would certainly be the case if the minimum breeding population were 10 million individuals, but it would not be the case if the minimum breeding population were only 300 individuals.

We know from other mammal species that have faced extinction in the past, that a population can go as low as a few hundred individuals and still be viable for many generations. So the theoretical minimum breeding population can be set at roughly 300 individuals.

One problem with any population estimate, even if it is only a theoretical parameter, is that it causes many people to visualize one big herd in one valley representing the entire population. Not everyone can conceive of a four-digit population scattered across a big continent, and thus being so widely scattered that they might never live in groups of more than three or four individuals. One must have a mathematical sense to understand that a few thousand elusive, nocturnal, nomadic individuals that are spread out among millions of square miles would make for a very rare species indeed.

That scenario raises the question of whether a population figure close to the minimal breeding population threshold is too low to explain the number of sighting reports across the continent.

Bigfoot / sasquatch sightings and track finds started being documented more or less from the early 1960's onward. Since that time there have been roughly 3500 documented sightings and track finds that are thought to be credible. The documented sightings and track finds are thought to represent only a fraction of the actual observations by humans in North America during the same time frame. The reports come from basically everywhere across continent where there are coniferous forests. It is likely that many observations and track finds over the years involved the same individuals. But it is also likely that many bigfoots have never been observed by any humans.

In the past when all the objective and subjective considerations have been juggled to come up with upper and lower parameters for a population size, those parameters have usually fallen in the neighborhood of 2000 - 6000.

The higher figures are favored by those who suggest that there would be two to three times as many documented sightings, if Canada and southern Alaska had anywhere near the same human population density as the lower forty-eight states. Humans have to be present for an observation to occur. Where there are no humans, there are no sightings, but there might be just as many bigfoots.

A figure of 2000-6000 would not exceed the reasonableness threshold, but it is well above the minimum breeding population figure
08-16-2008 03:54 PM
 
 
RON F
New Heliman
Location: HILLIARD,OH-USA

Based on the news I've seen so far : Hoax.
08-16-2008 04:28 PM
 
 
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