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daggit
Elite Veteran
Location: Waseca MN

An R/C cameraship pilot and his camera"person" are in constant close communication during a shoot. The following is a transcript of an actual conversation during a shoot today.

Here's the setup...

Arrived on a location, surveyed for best spot to base operations, set up equipment, did range check, checked to be sure controls are functioning properly. Started up gasser and took off.

Went up about 300 ft. Wife (aka cameraperson) snaps a half a dozen pictures but I notice heli is wagging some (unusual I think).

Here is the following conversation...

Me: " I'm bringing it down!"

cameraperson: "Ok."

I start ascent ... at about 150 ft motor shuts completly off.

cameraperson: "Whatta you doin?!?!"

me:" Crashing!!"

cameraperson: "Why?"

me: "because the motor shut off!"

Intelligent conversation don't you think?

Well, I managed to auto in safely. Not easy with an 18lb + heli! Somewhere on the way down I realized my mistake. I had forgotten to fill the gas tank!! Well, at least I know my clunk line works good, tank was BONE DRY.

Only damage was a short circuited downlink battery pack (it's a pack that gets 12volts out of 4 AA batteries) and stripped pan/tilt servos from the camera tray striking the ground. (cameraperson didn't think to put cam in "landing" position... she thought it was a gonner!)

I filled the tank, detached the camera, flight tested the heli, then put the camera back on and took 'er back up. My camerawoman had to "shoot from the hip" with the downlink not working... but we got some nice pics anyway

Here's me teasing my wife on the next flight... notice she's not looking at the monitor in the car...she nearly had a heart attack during the "crash"
04-27-2003 Over year old.
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irq
Key Veteran
Location: San Diego, CA

Very interesting
04-27-2003 Over year old.
 
 
irq
Key Veteran
Location: San Diego, CA

How long are the blades on your gasser? And what headspeed do you fly at? Just curious
04-27-2003 Over year old.
 
 
daggit
Elite Veteran
Location: Waseca MN

blades 710mm... I know not the headspead.
04-27-2003 Over year old.
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vetrider
Elite Veteran
Location: Daleville, AL (Ft.Rucker)

Sounds like a good save and lesson all rolled into one.

Glad it was minor in damages.

Nolan Manley
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04-27-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Al Magaloff
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Location: 12,199 Posts- Enough Time Wasted. See Ya!

Hey Dag, good save you guys! Handling the emergency is what defines a good pilot. Well done!
04-27-2003 Over year old.
 
 
vulpi
Senior Heliman
Location: PARIS

Gem 2000 with fuel probe
hehe i just bought one for my camera rig, still working on it , waiting the m1 carbon mount .
04-27-2003 Over year old.
 
 
rotorh34d
Heliman
Location: Perth

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cameraperson: "Whatta you doin?!?!"[

me:" Crashing!!"


hahahhaha
04-27-2003 Over year old.
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Al Magaloff
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Location: 12,199 Posts- Enough Time Wasted. See Ya!

Semantics Seneca. An emergency is an emergency, doesn't matter what the reason for the emergency is, you still have to deal with it. If your copilot preflighted the plane, missed something that put you in a situation where you may not make it back in, would you sit there and bitch at him like a wife? Or fly the friggin' plane!
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Al Magaloff
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Location: 12,199 Posts- Enough Time Wasted. See Ya!

Ok, so you're a defense attorney, defending someone charged with murder. The person is not guilty, you get him off. You're a skilled attorney. Now, defend the same person, but this time, you know he is guilty. You get him off. Are you not the same skilled attorney. If an airline pilot forgot to fuel his jet and ran out of gas but managed to land safely.Would they say he was a good pilot.hehehehe I'll bet the people sitting behind the bulkhead would say so. Would they fly with him again? Probably not.
04-27-2003 Over year old.
 
 
runboy
Key Veteran
Location: Denmark

Kind of like calling Scott O'Grady a hero

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04-27-2003 Over year old.
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daggit
Elite Veteran
Location: Waseca MN

ALL I GOT TO SAY IS...

I can brag all I want about the auto but...

I am REALLY kicking myself for forgetting the gas, it was a very stupid thing to do.

I won't try to make an excuse for it.. cuz there ain't no excuse!


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ELOSSAM
Veteran
Location: Es

If it serves to calm you I only crashed my camera ship once and was due to exactly the same reason. .
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Elossam
04-27-2003 Over year old.
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dhollein
Key Veteran
Location: Tucson, AZ

Hell that's not so bad, there was a dip**** at my flying site that started his Ergo 60 and never turned the On/Off switch on, he carried it out, set it down and that was it.... Then he noticed that he had no control of the damn thing as it left the ground

At least you did that!
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runboy
Key Veteran
Location: Denmark

Everybody does stupid stuff. I have had my share:

- Flipping heli low altitude in Normal mode
- disengaging hold on ground with the throttle full up (I was sitting right next to it too)
- Flying heli with different heli selected on radio
- Almost trashed my heli by tripping over a kids toy
- Practised auto with idle too low. Wanted to climb out at 10-15 feet, added pitch, but engine was dead, so headspeed dropped to nothing. Still at 10-15 feet

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turling
Heliman
Location: Idaho Falls, ID

Too funny...

Runboy, those are some seriously funny 'mistakes'. I was laughing my head off about the one with you flipping the heli close to ground in normal mode. I've done some seriously stupid moves. One time I started my brand new gasser, was real anxious to fly it so I just gave my receiver batt a quick charge and headed out to the parking lot. The damn thing ran out of juice in a hover at about 6 inches off the ground. It was running like a scalded cat. There was nothing I could do. That was so stupid!
05-03-2003 Over year old.
 
 
jeffscholl
Key Veteran
Location: Whitefish, MT

" Flipping heli low altitude in Normal mode"

did that 2 weeks ago...
it's amazing how fast you can kill headspeed in 1 and a half flip...

cheers...jeff
05-03-2003 Over year old.
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