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Avant Aurora - EFX - FX > Solid G on Aurora?

Ghostrider
Key Veteran
Location: San Diego, CA

Anybody using a Solid G on the Aurora? I have both a Spartan and Solid G sitting here in the box. I think I would like to try the Solid G but do not have any parameters for it.

Has anybody set one up yet? Or has Curtis made some parameters for it yet?

Sam Gammo
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness".

07-06-2008 10:44 PM

creightoncarr
Veteran
Location: Missouri City, Texas - USA

I'm using the Solid-G on my Aurora. I started with the Synergy settings thinking I would tweak them from there. But, I haven't had to change a thing. One thing I will point out is that I originally put the ball on the tail servo at 14mm out because I wanted to use more of the range on the gyro. I had some problems in extremely fast backwards flight when the tail was going from one extreme to the other in rapid succession (e.g. during snake maneuvers) with the tail blowing out. I tried increasing the gain but that didn't solve the problem. I move the ball out tot he recommended 19mm on the tail servo and haven't had a problem yet. Mine is locked in solid at 46% gain on the Solid-G.

07-06-2008 10:51 PM

Rockohaulic
Elite Veteran
Location: Valencia, CA, USA, 3rd Rock from the Sun

Between the Solid-G and the Spartan I like the Solid-G so far.

I will put the Spartan on my 700N since it came off of the Xtreme. If I don't like it I'll pull the Solid-G off the 600N and replace it.

Bert flew my Xtreme and Trex on the same day a couple weeks ago, and the one he commented on with a "whoa!" was the Solid-G.

I got a helicopter for my girlfriend,
It was a good trade!

07-07-2008 04:31 AM

Ghostrider
Key Veteran
Location: San Diego, CA

creightoncarr

Have you flown with a Spartan? I would love to hear some feed back from people that have flown both. I have been using the Spartan on my Stratus but I have had a few issues with the tail not holding during hard climb-outs and some manuevers.

That's part of the reason I want to try the Solid G.

Sam Gammo
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness".

07-07-2008 05:12 AM

jphilli
Senior Heliman
Location: Marietta, Ga.

Hey Ghost, PM me with your settings and setup. I have a Spartan on my Stratus and it's nuts. Extremely consistent in maneuvers like piro funnels and serpents where gyros are known to suffer. Also don't have any problems with the tail giving out in fast hurricanes or tail slides.

07-07-2008 05:18 AM

Ghostrider
Key Veteran
Location: San Diego, CA

jp,

I am pretty much running it stock out of the box with the exception of stops are softened by about 15%. How far out do you have the ball on the servo arm?

The main problem I am having is during climb outs, the tail kicks out. If I turn the gain up, I get tail shakes during funnels and things like that.

Better yet, what are your settings?

Sam Gammo
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness".

07-07-2008 05:28 AM

jphilli
Senior Heliman
Location: Marietta, Ga.

Shoot me your email address and I can send you my config file.

FWIW, I'm running a 9256. Gain on my DX-7 is 44% which is actually %30 according to the config. editor. As far as lengths I can measure that stuff in the morning but I can tell you that I have it setup to 113/115 on the endpoints.

I'm going to play around with the stop gains and what not next time I fly just to see what might change but so far I'm extremely impressed as was my buddy who's flying a Solid-g on his Stratus.

07-07-2008 06:38 AM

jphilli
Senior Heliman
Location: Marietta, Ga.

Try this Sam:

[Gyro]
Product=ds760
Application version=107
Firmware version=107
Memory Map version=2
User comments=
[Servo]
High endpoint=115
Low endpoint=113
Midpoint trim=70
Servo=9
Speed=6
Type=1
[Common]
Direction=1
Rudder stick deadband=5
[Mode 1 (Rate Mode)]
Rudder exponential=0
[Mode 2 (AVCS Mode)]
Acceleration profile=15
Deceleration profile=12
Clockwise stop gain=100
Counter clockwise stop gain=100
Rudder exponential=0
Rudder sensitivity=120

Just copy and paste it to a text document and then change it to a .ssf extension.

FWIW, the ball on my servo horn is 16mm out. For my horn, this is going to be the 4th position out.

07-08-2008 03:15 AM

Ghostrider
Key Veteran
Location: San Diego, CA

JP, what servo are you running?

Sam Gammo
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness".

07-08-2008 08:50 AM

MrMel
Elite Veteran
Location: Lidingo, Sweden

Quote
Anybody using a Solid G on the Aurora? I have both a Spartan and Solid G sitting here in the box. I think I would like to try the Solid G but do not have any parameters for it.

I run Solid-G on mine with Stratus parameter set, works like a charm.

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07-08-2008 09:35 AM

mickeyapples
Veteran
Location: England

I have been using JR setting. going to try Stratus next. very happy with Solid G

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07-08-2008 09:46 AM

SERGIOCRUZ
Heliman
Location: Portugal

SOLID G

I HAVE BEEN USING SOLID G WITH BLS 251 IN MINE AND IS VERY COOL! ROCK SOLID

07-08-2008 10:43 AM

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Angelos
Key Veteran
Location: nr Oxford, OX11, UK

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I have been using the Spartan on my Stratus but I have had a few issues with the tail not holding during hard climb-outs and some manuevers.

You should expect better from the ds760. This is most likely the case that the gain it not high enough. Keep in mind that other reasons may cause the tail to start wagging at a lower gain value before the optimal gain is reached. Any play or stiffness in the linkages or gritty bearing or slow servo will all contribute to that.

-Angelos

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07-08-2008 10:56 AM

creightoncarr
Veteran
Location: Missouri City, Texas - USA

Quote
creightoncarr Have you flown with a Spartan?

Sorry, I've never flown the Spartan. Always wanted to try it, but never could get my hands on one. Now I've got everything fitted with the Solid-G and very happy.

07-08-2008 02:07 PM

jphilli
Senior Heliman
Location: Marietta, Ga.

I'm using a 9256.

I'm going to try and get some video pretty soon but like I said, it works awesome.

Before I forget, go to the setup screen on the computer and right click and run diagnostics. In the bottom left, it should tell you what gain the Spartan is seeing. Let us know that number along with the endpoints.

07-08-2008 02:47 PM

Jason Bell
Elite Veteran
Location: San Diego, Ca

^^

Very nice, never knew that feature

26%(37% on 9303 travel adjust) gain on my aurora with 20mm servo length distance.

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07-08-2008 05:26 PM

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mike4406
Heliman
Location: chantilly, va

just wondering if anyone on this thread has tried to use the spartan software with 64 bit vista ? I cannot get the drivers to load and no answers from customer support...

07-08-2008 05:56 PM

Angelos
Key Veteran
Location: nr Oxford, OX11, UK

mike4406,
I am not sure why your ticket has not been answered yet but I know John is looking at it and was planning to order a hard disk to install Vista 64bit. I believe the driver we have on the website is 32bit only but we will try to release a 64bit one soon.

-Angelos

Spartan RC R&D - Visit us at our local club www.helicollective.org.uk

07-08-2008 06:25 PM

mike4406
Heliman
Location: chantilly, va

Super!! Glad to know it's being developed, and appreciate the quick update and support.

07-08-2008 06:54 PM

Nelson J
Heliman
Location: Toronto, Canada

SERGIOCRUZ
Nice Heli, congrats.

Um abraço
Nelson

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07-09-2008 11:25 PM

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