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Ausable
Senior Heliman
Location: Verdun, QC Canada

I have a T-Rex 450SE & a T-Rex 500. I have flowen inside the house with a Hirobo Quark very well for many months. Now I wanted to mive outside with a better heli. I have been hoovering and making just regular movements withe the T-Rex's. I have made some home made training gear. I have had two small crashes and now I am wondering I I should try to hover and fly without the training gear. Can someone help me out.
Thanks newbie.
06-23-2008 10:30 PM
 
 
nmrs
Senior Heliman
Location: Austin, TX

I'd say as soon as you can take off and land comfortably without fear of tipping over, take them off. I took mine off after my second day flying my 450 se v2 and haven't looked back (and haven't tipped over).

A search should produce many similar threads, such as:

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t422302p1
06-23-2008 10:52 PM
 
 
Ausable
Senior Heliman
Location: Verdun, QC Canada

Training Gear

Ok, Guys thanks for the info, yes I have been hovering front to back, back to front hovering in one spot depending on the wind. I also can go side to side .I was doing this with bothe the T-Rex 450SE and the T-Rex 500 which was alot more stable. I crashed both helis beacuse I paniced and droped the helis down from about two feet and they bounced and landed on thier sides. the T-rex 450 had boom damage and the T-Rex 500 main gear teeh chipped a little. I need hlep on not to panic., Iguess I have in the back of my mind CRASH $$$$$$.
Any more advise PLEASE
Thanks
Newbie
06-24-2008 12:00 AM
 
 
lrogers
Key Veteran
Location: Mobile, Al

They will definetly fly better without the weight/drag of training gear so the sooner it come off the better.

How did you have your pitch curve set up? At your stage, you should no more than -3 degrees at low stick and possibly even a bit less. You need some negative to make sure you can get down, but too much and you will "drive" the heli into ground if you panic and chop the throttle. Even though it is counter to what you would expect, sometimes it's better to add power and fly out of the problem. The trick is knowing when that is the correct way. Unfortunately, that comes with experience and rebuilds!

Larry Rogers - R/C Helicopter Pilot
06-24-2008 12:27 AM
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mro
Heliman
Location: Monee,il

I actually broke two sets of training gear. Was going to by a third and said enough is enough. Kept trying to get her to the ground. Someone told me if you get in trouble... go up! Worked for me.
Mark
06-24-2008 02:14 AM
 
 
Ausable
Senior Heliman
Location: Verdun, QC Canada

Training Gear

This is my set up I had the person set me up like a beginer the stick all the way down not centre, I don't want to do any 3D so i have a very basic set up se below;
Hi Brian, if you are just learning to fly helis, i don't totally recommend you 0 pitch at center throttle, i can do this, usually for normal flight throttle has to be : 0%, 40, 60, 80, 100%, and pitch has to be: 0 degrees, 2, 5, 7, 9 degrees, but i can program you IDLE UP 1 as follows: pitch -5, 0, 5, 7, 10 degrees and throttle: 65%, 60, 70, 85 and 100% so you can switch to IDLE UP 1 once you are just about half throttle on normal flight (this is done by activating the idle up 1 switch) so in this mode you can fly normally as in regular mode but with the ability to have some negative pitch on lower throttle stick position and you can bring the heli down, is very easy and good to practice, once you master this is goint to be very easy to fly IDLE UP 2 from -12 to 12 degrees and 100% throttle all the way.
What do you think
06-24-2008 03:02 AM
 
 
Zaaaguy72
Senior Heliman
Location: Grand Rapids, MN

It is actually easier to fly without the trainers. As soon as I got so frustrated with mine and stopped using them, my skills grew much quicker!!

Flybarless RJX X50; Beam E4; MX450
06-26-2008 03:32 PM
 
 
Pistol_Pete
Elite Veteran
Location: Tampa Bay non-Buccaneer

www.trextuning.com

I would recommend the stick on center mainly because we are creatures of habit...if you get used to the stick at bottom, once you are ready for more advanced maneuvers, you will have to retrain your left fingers for that middle stick feeling without looking.

You can just have a few degrees negative from the center stick position all the way down...just enought to bring her down but not to fast for a crash landing...eventually you can increase this negative pitch as you progress.

<><>...the lunatic is in my head...<><>
06-26-2008 05:47 PM
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Zaaaguy72
Senior Heliman
Location: Grand Rapids, MN

I agree with Pistol.

Flybarless RJX X50; Beam E4; MX450
06-26-2008 06:57 PM
 
 
nmrs
Senior Heliman
Location: Austin, TX

Pistol's advice is right on. I agree completely. I was taught to set pitch and throttle curves for Normal and idle up to be identical from midstick up. This ensures the heli doesn't jump when you toggle over and gets you used to the upright idle up settings when you are learning in Normal.

On my 450, I have the following throttle curves:

Normal: 0 60 85 92.5 100
Idle up: 100 92.5 85 92.5 100

Pitch:
Normal: 35 42.5 50 75 100
Idle up: 0 25 50 75 100

I generally spool up to midstick in normal and flip to idle up just before take off.
06-26-2008 07:06 PM
 
 
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