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BlueGarry1
Veteran
Location: Romford, Essex, UK

Hi Guy's

Does anyone know the order of plugging in the leads from left to right on the new MultiGov Pro ?? The manual does'nt make this clear and there is no guide printed on the outside of the casing.

Please help if you can

Thanks

Bluegarry1

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06-20-2008 09:09 PM

tadawson
Elite Veteran
Location: Lewisville, TX

Another poster noted in another thread that the labels are on the PCB inside the case, and are pretty clearly visible once you know where to look . . .

- Tim

The more I touch electrics, the more I grow to hate them . . . .

06-20-2008 09:12 PM

BlueGarry1
Veteran
Location: Romford, Essex, UK

Thank you Tim

Bluegarry1

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06-20-2008 09:25 PM

MolokaiBoy
Key Veteran
Location: Kailua-Kona,Hawaii USA

Well for the Pro it is as follows from left to right:

Throttle, RPM, Sen, Sv1, Aux, Sv2, Tmp

Hope that this helps.

Aloha,

Les

06-21-2008 05:43 AM

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BlueGarry1
Veteran
Location: Romford, Essex, UK

MolokaiBoy

Thanks for your help. It's very appreciated.

Can you tell me if it's possible to have the MultiGov disabled in normal flight mode and have it working in Idle-Up 1 and 2 only.

I fly mostly F3C/FAI and sometimes it's best not to have the governor working in normal flight mode during precision hovering.

Any thoughts on this ??

Thanks

Bluegarry1

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06-21-2008 08:11 PM

Aerospire
Senior Heliman
Location: Honolulu, HI

Yes you can disable the governor in any SPEED#. It is described in the instructions. Just set the RPM to 499 and you will see the LCD show "OFF".

bob

06-21-2008 08:15 PM

BlueGarry1
Veteran
Location: Romford, Essex, UK

Thanks Bob. That's great

Bluegarry1

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06-21-2008 08:51 PM

tadawson
Elite Veteran
Location: Lewisville, TX

As a future suggestion, Bob, the one thing that I find lacking in the Multigov is a way to turn it off *without* wasting a flight mode. IE, on my other brand govs, I can have three speeds - one per flight mode, as well as be able to turn it on and off globally, without sacrificing a speed setting. This is valuable, in that it allows me to go in and out of gov mode to check underlying curves easily.

While it would sacrifice some simplicity, the easiest way to do this is just to make the speed control channel proportional - IE, set the flight mode switch to give the three desired speeds, and then define another switch with a mix to drive that channel below the engagement speed, resulting in a shutdown of the gov. Harder to program speeds, but gives on/off without consuming another channel. That, or a combo of the two whereas you set the speeds on the gov controlled by flight mode, but they are still proportional such that an overriding mix can force a shutdown.

Or am I the only one that sees this as a minor issue? Other than that, the thing is perfect . . .

- Tim

The more I touch electrics, the more I grow to hate them . . . .

06-21-2008 08:57 PM

Ace Dude
Elite Veteran
Location: USA

The gov does everything you're looking to do, just with two speeds instead of three if one is configured for off. All you need to do is setup the mixing in your radio to switch between off, speed 1, and speed 2 in any flight mode (well, depending on your radio). I use an offset mix on my radio.

06-21-2008 10:04 PM

tadawson
Elite Veteran
Location: Lewisville, TX

And that is exactly what I *DON'T* want to have to do . . . my other govs give me three speeds (and more) as well as the ability to shut down while in any flight mode . . . it would be nice here too! I already have it setup with FM1 as "Off", but don't really like to have to commit a flight mode to on/off - I prefer that to be a separate, flight mode independent control, which I have not figured out now to do on this thing yet . . .

I could probably do two speeds, and have an override mix to drive to the third for off, but that still loses a speed . . . . hmmm . . . .

- Tim

The more I touch electrics, the more I grow to hate them . . . .

06-22-2008 06:29 AM

Ace Dude
Elite Veteran
Location: USA

Ideally, I'd love to see three speeds and on/off, but product development is usually always a compromise between ease of use and the number of options available. I'd rather not waste an extra channel for on/off like the GV-1 does. The Revlock has almost unlimited speeds available, but is more complex to setup.

Anyway, I think your confusing flight modes and governor speed settings. With a little radio programming, the governor can be on/off, gov speed 1, or gov speed 2 in any flight mode (i.e., normal. IU1, IU2, etc.) depending on your radio, of course.

06-23-2008 12:05 AM

tchavei
rrProfessor
Location: Portugal

The only limitation is that you have infact only 3 possible speeds (or 2 if you choose speed 1 to be OFF) but these can be bound to flight modes but don't have to be. You can setup a different switch just for the governor and use both preset speed in any flight condition. Personally I only use Speed 2 for actual flying. Speed 1 is set to OFF and Speed 3 is for experimenting different stuff.

Tony

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"Perfection and patience usually walk side by side..."

06-23-2008 02:24 AM

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tadawson
Elite Veteran
Location: Lewisville, TX

I understand the lack of hard coupling with the flight mode switch, but that still misses the point! Perhaps I am a mutant, but I *want* three speeds, one per flight mode, and the ability to turn on/off in any mode. On the ATG, this is pretty trivial to do . . . and needs no extra channel, although you have to use a proportional mix from the flight mode switch to the gov to set speeds, and not just use the raw switch position. Yes, a bit more headache to set up, but much more versatile . . . If the MultiGov could allow proportional speed selection on a single speed setting, then this method could work as well . . .

- Tim

The more I touch electrics, the more I grow to hate them . . . .

06-23-2008 06:03 AM

tchavei
rrProfessor
Location: Portugal

Well you maybe have noticed that the Multigov Pro has a spare port right next to the mixture servo. It doesn't do anything right now (it was doing something during prototype developing though

)but I'm sure that if the demand is high enough that Bob can program the port to turn off/on the governor sub-system in a next firmware upgrade.

Tony

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"Perfection and patience usually walk side by side..."

06-23-2008 11:29 AM

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Ace Dude
Elite Veteran
Location: USA

Considering the MultiGov has been around for quite some time now, there have been very few complaints that I have seen about this. The problem with going proportional is it would be harder to know or set exactly what your headspeed is w/o using a tach.

The success of the MultiGov is partly due to its simplicity.

Most folks want Plug and Play and don't want to have to deal with setting up mixing and proportional channels.

06-23-2008 12:05 PM

tchavei
rrProfessor
Location: Portugal

^^^
Absolutely true

Tony

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"Perfection and patience usually walk side by side..."

06-23-2008 12:13 PM

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tadawson
Elite Veteran
Location: Lewisville, TX

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Considering the MultiGov has been around for quite some time now, there have been very few complaints that I have seen about this. The problem with going proportional is it would be harder to know or set exactly what your headspeed is w/o using a tach.

Take a look at the ATG. Fully proportional, and no need for a tach . . . the display simply shows you the speed that your input will give, based on the programmed gear ration. Can't get a whole lot simpler than that! The only diff is you set the speed on the radio, not on the gov - what you see is the same on both . . .

- Tim

The more I touch electrics, the more I grow to hate them . . . .

06-23-2008 04:24 PM

Ace Dude
Elite Veteran
Location: USA

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Take a look at the ATG. Fully proportional, and no need for a tach . . . the display simply shows you the speed that your input will give, based on the programmed gear ration. Can't get a whole lot simpler than that! The only diff is you set the speed on the radio, not on the gov - what you see is the same on both . . .

Again, still a bit more work and effort to setup and support. I'm not saying it's difficult, just not as simple as the MultiGov.

06-24-2008 01:57 AM

tchavei
rrProfessor
Location: Portugal

We're transforming this thread in a "what is best" contest. Sure, you can get more speeds out of an ATG... but the question is... can it control your mixture too?

Tony

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"Perfection and patience usually walk side by side..."

06-24-2008 02:19 AM

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tadawson
Elite Veteran
Location: Lewisville, TX

No, but that assumes you want mixture control in the first place . . . not sure I am going to bother with it on my 'Pro, since the YS mixture is so stable to begin with. I guess if I am ever forced to downgrade back to an OS, I'll think about it . . .

- Tim

The more I touch electrics, the more I grow to hate them . . . .

06-24-2008 03:14 AM

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