HeliCSR
Heliman
Location: Hesperia, Ca, US
| Some guy at Autozone said NAPA has a spray on grafite I don't know what it's called.
I'm going there today, and ask. I want some grafite on my belt, I want to make sure this thing is shorted out at the belt directly.
This thing is for real, I replaced BEC's no good, then I made them myself, I even when out and bought a fluke scope, that cost as much as the helicopter I looked at every wire into the radio, voltages in/out. I got to fix this thing....
I WANT TO FLY!!!
I read guys, changing motors and fly, YEAH if fixed, rock solid.
Then later they write, yeah.....glitch came back, not as bad though.
Moisture in the air was different that day, maybe he touched his belt put finger oil on it, kill some static maybe get you by, fooling you.
I can say the radio systems today are pretty good as blocking noise
But the gyro is another thing, it has a mini computer in it. You can crash a computer.
I saw my single digital tail servo 9254 pull 5 amp's peak for a very short time 10 ms, I freak it that, being that the little red and black wires coming from the BEC that's powering 4 digital servos.
If you turn on your radio, on the bench with the heli, and your moving your sticks around, and other servos and moving when they should not, that's voltage drop's.
Move your BEC close to the radio. In my case I cannot do that my BEC needs air, on my BEC it measures the voltage right at the radio with an extra wire.
I did have twitchie servos at first, so I was fixing all this, all the while, that later my tail belt will crash my gyro, and crash my Logo.
But I lucked out the only damage was main blades, shaft and left side frame and one landing skidd. No boom damage or tail rotor.
After wards when testing the heli, 12 inches off the ground, that's as high as I would go to fixed this thing, I could not get this thing on the bench to glitch, I never though about static from the belt.
Then I put the bird up for a while 3 years. I got an MX-400 and put Align bling on it. I got another gryo same as in the Logo CSM SL420. Same radio R770S. It's a belt drive but the tail gear is metal, front plastic.
This copter flew no problems ever, there is no lube on the belt, cause then I still was not suppecting belt static. I when thru another battery, still perfect. Now WHY is the LOGO not flying?
Finally, three years later I get out the logo dust ALL over it
sitting in the garage, clean it fly it.
It flys perfect, I still not knowing about static, the belt is not lubed, my bird can fly for 40 mins on charge I just do 18 mins I land all good no glitch, why cause maybe some dust on the belt sitting maybe collected moisture whatever.....I really got 2 days of flying out of it....then on the next day I was hovering and within 5 mins a glitch, not crashed gyro.. every 1 min a glitch so I land.
I figured maybe blade balance, messing with the gyro, so I balance
it's like I buy good blades the kind that say they are all ready balanced, they were really close. Someone said nothing is perfect so I check stuff.
Fly the next day, still glitching no full pyro lock not yet...then the gyro crashes now were spinning, but were 18 inches off the ground I can do this, bring it down slowly 1-2 inches off the ground I drop it fast, a little tail rotor scrape.
OK, now for everyone that wants to know, cause someone did ask, I bought the align 100 AMP ESC, and thing is super smooth start, it smokes the master-O-heli which I paid 269 or more I never did like it.
I like the align ESC in my MX-400 smooth.
I put the ESC in the Logo, went to fly, I hovered real low for almost 12 mins... nothing, then I went a little higher, the T/P curves were different the rotor speed was less when I went higher...THERE glitch.
Now it glitched once every 1 min. About the 4th glitch full PYRO, NO rudder control, I land, the move the rudder now I have control. I take off, hover glitch..glitch...glitch, PYRO. I bring the copter inside the garage, I see my green LED is not flashing, BLUE..RED..NOGREEN. Now I supecting the belt ONLY cause I came here before and some guy from 2006 have the same symtoms but no one ever said full pyro. The problem was tail rotor move to the right or left, 45-90 degrees whatever....then gain control by itself, I do have that.
I fix the LED I fly...Pyro, now the green and the blue burnt out, the blue is on the tail or close to it.
NOW I READ MORE HERE about tailgunner and others and I agree %100 percent tail belt static.
You CANNOT ground the BOOM, that does nothing but fool you till later, crash glue repete. It does not have to ark, I bet if you could but I cannot because my tail gear is inclosed you may see a corona of blue micro sparks, on your tail gear as the belt went around it in the dark.
This will crash a gyro, but not the radio maybe a cheap radio.
The next day, I got Tri-Flow I need something I WANT TO FLY the LOGO. I put it on, the tail is WET man....thats all I dont like, but that's ok.
CAUSE I can FLY now..And I want to thank you all, and to tailgunner,
for his diligent effort, like "I took the tail belt off I cleaned it I put it back on GLITCH...GLITCH...GLITCH. I spray the tri flow.
NO GLITCH."
It as simple as that, you can use white lithium grease any lube, except WD-40 it will work, but it will not last long.
I was thinking that the tri-flow has some conductivity to it but it does not, I sprayed it on shink tube and checked with an ohm meter at 20 meg ohms not conductive.
Then I wondered why it worked, and then I thought friction of rubber on plastic, then I knew. I sprayed it on my belt.
25 min hover at 3 feet, my fingers are cramped NO GLITCH.
I going to NAPA, look for some graphic spray.
IF ANYONE KNOWS OF ANTI-STATIC belts for the logo LET ME KNOW.
You guys are ALL AWESOME. |
