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nodak_heli
New Heliman
Location: Bismarck, North Dakota

Hello everyone,
I will introduce myself as this is the first time I have posted anything on these forums. I am an 18 year old high school graduate that became interested with r/c helicopters about sophomore year. At that time I purchased a JR Vigor from my local heli store with a JR 8103 for the transmitter. The heli came with almost everything that I needed. It was such a big investment for me that I never flew it because I was afraid to crash it and my money supply had been exhausted. I eventually bought Realflight's simulator and started practicing on that. Eventually as I rounded up enough cash, I finished getting all the needed starting supplies and chargers, and got around to flying the heli. The first start up was fun, as I put some stuff(piece of wood with golf bags on either side) under the skids and made sure she could not get away. Boy did she roar once I got above idle, I can see why this is such an addictive hobby!
After the first time starting her up, I started spending hours a day with it, trying to figure out what I needed to know before the first maiden flight. I finally decided I had enough sim practice and guts to try and hover the heli for the first time(training gear...no thanks). Everything went well for the first tank of gas, and the adrenaline effects of the first flight were quite satisfying.
The next day I got up early and was at it again. I got her up and hovered another tank of that precious 30% fuel. After that I managed to hydro-lock the engine on refueling. After Some playing around with the engine I finally got it to start again. This time after about a minute of hovering it started to fall out of the sky. I was lucky to be able to set it down with out any damage. A Spark Plug later I was at it again. This time on spool up there was a loud pop and the engine died. I guess I did not have the spark plug in tight enough as it shot out, lucky break for me the heli was still on the ground.
A spark plug later and a turn of the low speed needle on the engine the bird was in the air again. Hovering in my driveway, all of a sudden the bird started to fall out of the air again. Lucky break for me she ended right side up on her skids. After inspection, the low speed needle actually fell out of the heli midflight, which I believe led the engine to a super rich setting so no power and loss of altitude causing a controlled crash.
These are my experiences as an r/c pilot. Thanks for reading my short log book and keep practicing on your sims, as they save thousands in crashes, trust me! I will see you in the air once I figure out how to find another low speed needle and get that engine cranking again!
untell next time
73
06-17-2008 11:55 PM
 
 
AltecLansing
Key Veteran
Location: Under the tire of a truck

what size and brand of engine do you have? Also, join a flight club and seek help. It will make it easier to learn to fly. Keep practicing on the sim and make sure you take the sim serious and not just a video game. I do both to keep from getting bored.

Man, I miss the eighties.
06-18-2008 12:09 AM
 
 
rotaryfalcon
Heliman
Location: Social Circle, Ga. USA

Welcome nodak, read you post with interest. I agree with the use of a sim. I got RF 3.5 when it came out and it really helped me with aerobatics with my planks. When I got into helis it has been responsible for my getting on to it as fast as I have. Granted it is not exactly like the real thing, but has taught me the right moves and orientations until they are instinctive (saved me about 2million in helis too!) I second the notion of finding a club. The learing curve on a nitro heli can be pretty steep if you have little or no experience. Good luck, keep us posted!
06-18-2008 12:48 AM
 
 
nodak_heli
New Heliman
Location: Bismarck, North Dakota

The engine in the heli is the Thunder Tiger Pro 70. I think I have read about people fitting 90 size engines in the Vigor, but I think that would be pretty cool considering the 70 gets it in the air pretty quick like.
Realflight 3.5 is fun because you can fly on the internet and try and compete with some of those really good pilots.
Well I figured I would take a couple pictures of what my heli looks like, so you guys could imagine the adrenaline of maidening the bird. Do not forget to straighten out the blades before spin up Enjoi

06-18-2008 02:50 AM
 
 
Heli_Man_Bob
Heliman
Location: Miamisburg, Ohio, US

Congratulations on your first hovers sounds like you are new to nitros as all those things happened to me as well when I bought my first nitro heli.

Now that you have hovered it a few times don't forget the post flight inspection.

I will 3rd the advice to join a club it is a great place to enjoy the hobby and the camaraderie of other heli enthusiast and to exchange ideas on set up maintenance etc. Just ask the local Hobby shop LHS where clubs are in your area or you can look them up on the AMA website

Nothing like fling with others to advance your skill.


You have found a great community of helpful heli enthusiasts.


Keep us posted on your progress
06-18-2008 03:39 AM
 
 
nodak_heli
New Heliman
Location: Bismarck, North Dakota

Missing part ordered, only a matter of time before she sees air time again. I guess that there is a nice club around here so I am going to go and check it out soon. I have a broken arm at the moment so all of my normal activities (mountain biking and kiteboarding) are on hold. More time for me to get involved with this awesome hobby (addiction?) Thanks for the motivation to actually get out and meet fellow rc pilots.
73
06-18-2008 04:58 PM
 
 
Riq
Senior Heliman
Location: ND

We have our Annual FunFly this weekend in Minot at the airfield. If your ama, bring the bird, well get it in the air for you!
If not, get a temp card online for 20$ and drive north for the weekend, plenty of camping spots w/ shower.
http://www.minotaircraftmodelers.com/

pm me for more info, im glad to help out.
06-18-2008 05:38 PM
 
 
Way2slow
Veteran
Location: Jeffersonville Ga

The value of a good Sim

My son visited a few months ago, play with my sim and I let him hover my 450's some. He got the bug and bought him a Blade 400 and a sim when he got back home. Crashed the Blade the first night he tried to hover it and couldn't get it to fly again so he just practiced on the Sim for the past couple of months.

He came to visit last week and brought the Blade and a used TRex 600N Pro he just bought for me to get them flying. We went to the field sunday and after hovering the Blade for a few minutes, he started flying figure eights. Later we got the 600N setup and he was flying figure eights with it. He could only make a couple and would have to land it to let his hands quit shaking where the was so nervous but after several flights he was flying a whole tank without stopping. This was his first time actually flying a real heli other than the few minutes he played with the Blade when he first got it.

The is no way on gods green earth he could have picked up a radio, hovered a heli a few minutes to get the feel and took off into forward flight without the months of sim time he put in. So, don't under estimate the value of a good sim. Provided you use it as tool and not a game.
06-18-2008 06:06 PM
 
 
Riq
Senior Heliman
Location: ND

Ok, This guy came to my clubs funfly with his heli in hand ready to learn.
First, the engine was missing a screw holding the carb shaft in place, I had an extra tt70 in my arsenal so we got it ready.

We cranked and cranked on it the first night, to no avail, the head gasket was out on the TT70.

Next morn, swap heads on the tts and it fired up instantly. We tuned it and he was hovering it great....So great that after a few minutes he took it into ff. Everyone was shocked and scared...esp me cause i was spotting/training him. I said, are you sure?Ok, keep it out there.

He made nice smooth coordinated turns, figure 8s, and held nice altitude/attitude the entire flight.

Needless to say, we were both entirely pumped. The entire weekend was great; meeting a fellow enthusiast, and seeing them excel.

The value of a sim was witnessed first hand by many pilots who commented that he suceeded where they had failed.

Good Job, and nice to meet you!
06-23-2008 09:18 PM
 
 
TachyonDriver
Veteran
Location: Chipping, Lancs, UK

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so you guys could imagine the adrenaline of maidening the bird

No need to imagine - we've all been there and done it no matter what heli was being maidened!

Glad to hear you and Riq had a great funfly!

Tach.

Little Spinning Bundle of Joy®
06-24-2008 12:23 AM
 
 
nodak_heli
New Heliman
Location: Bismarck, North Dakota

Like riq said, we had a blast. Could not have asked for a better weekend. The weather was b e a utiful and everyone was very nice. Being a beginner, meeting riq was the best thing that could have happend to me. Like he said I was having problems with my bird, but with his knowledge he was able to get the thing running and in the air. It was a great time all together. He even did some night flying for me. It was the first time I ever saw somebody fly like that, and it was really cool. Having the chance to meet a someone like that really helped me out and I have nothing but good thoughts about the weekend. Hopefully everyone reading this has as good of a flying buddy as riq to chill with, as it made things 150% more fun for me. I would also like to shout out to Minot's model club because they made me feel very comfortable and welcome. All together, I think they finally got me hook, line, and sinker into this kick ass hobby.
Thanks guys!
06-24-2008 05:34 AM
 
 
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