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Kyosho Caliber 30 & 60 - Concept - Nexus > KYOSHO NEXUS 30??
 
 
Rbush
Veteran
Location: Wales

Hi,

I'm thinking of taking a step back form all the modern pumping 50's etc and and buying a KYOSHO NEXUS 30 just for kicks?

Is there anything bad about this machine. I've been told they fly like crap?

Are they really that bad?

That was a silly place to put the ground !
06-02-2008 11:41 PM
 
 
Drunk Monk
rrProfessor
Location: Preston, UK

It's the only heli I've ever flown that pirouettes without trying to tip over but links wear out quick and the best 3d you'll get out it is loops and rolls, and parts are alittle thin on the ground apart from that it's a great heli


Stephen

I only open my mouth to change feet.....
06-02-2008 11:56 PM
 
 
Damper
Senior Heliman
Location: Point Blank TX USA

I own one there alright but not a good investment unless
you have money to give away. I got mine in 2001 that is why I have
one. But it is not wise to get one. Buy something you will
appreciate. They fly well with upgrades like a metall balls
on the swashplate and do away with the Z-line likages on the servos.
Use a 240 futuba gyro without heading holding on. I heard a few
testimonies that sometimes (since it is shaft driven with a wire)
with head holding on it will get twisted in there like a rubber
band. The parts are not frequent found but I personally have not
had this problem yet. Overall In my opionion just for kicks Yes
if you wanted to. You will not get back the money back on it though

Good Luck if decide to get one!

Full Throttle Spooning Leads To Forking
06-03-2008 01:54 AM
 
 
jester4
Veteran
Location: Brampton, Ontario

They don't fly like crap, and actually they do aerobatics quite well in stock form. I have one with the plastic ball swash and zbends and all and it has flown for many gallons although I've retired it some 2 plus years ago. If you don't plan to fly the hell out of it, I wouldn't worry about upgrading anything.....

NO SOUP FOR YOU!!
06-03-2008 06:35 PM
 
 
glydrjocky
Heliman
Location: Livermore, CA - USA

Flew a club members Craigslist fresh Nexus last weekend. Took alot of trouble shooting to get it into the air, especially with the Hobbico Piezo gyro (non head lock) and no instructions to speak of. First the gyro was mounted flat and turns out it needs to be mounted on its side, then it was reverse sensing.........no instructions, no reverse switch so I just flipped it upside down, put on some fresh DB tape and we were in the ball park. Gain was way too high and started to waggle like a Salmon heading upstream to spawn! Finally got that mess straightened out too. Once it broke ground in a "stable" hover, it was very vague in control response. I thought, my slightly worn ZX Shuttle was vague when I bought it.......I stand corrected. I was able to keep it withing the confines of our hover pad at the field but some gusty wind made controlling it a challenge You'll never need expo with a Nexus, it has its own control delay built right in. The linkages had alot of slop from the swash all the way up to the blades but nothing seemed worn.

On a positve note, I was flying a helicopter! It wasnt my helicopter! And I do recall having a good time dialing it in so I guess it cant have been all that bad. The owner was jumping around like a kid in the parking lot of Chuck E. Cheese on his birthday, when that Nexus broke ground in its first hover and that's got to be worth something in the end.

Buy a Nexus for kicks.........eh.............sure why not........lifes all about the journey right?
06-07-2008 02:35 PM
 
 
dkshema
rrProfessor
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA

If you want to take a step back into the past and realize you're not going to have a fire breathing, tasmanian devil pirouetting, 3D-ing monster heli, you'll have fun with it.

It was an OK heli for its time. I found the three I owned to be serviceable, flyable, relatively maintenance free, and fun to fly. You can do mild aerobatics with them. My first inverted hover happened with a Nexus many years ago. I found them to be a nice heli to simply relax with and fly.

Don't put a high-speed tail rotor servo matched up with a heading hold gyro in it. The wire-driven tail will act weird as the wire winds and unwinds like a rubber band.

Overall collective pitch range is limited.

The plastic balls on the head linkages get a bit sloppy after awhile. If you find a Zeal swasplate and want to spend the $$ to buy it, it's a good investment. Otherwise you can carefully saw the balls off the plastic parts and install steel balls in their place. Drill the holes carefully and the right size for the small screws.

Individual new parts are getting scarce, there is a plethora of parts to be found on Ebay as people are selling off their old machines on a regular basis.

The main rotor blades are an odd size -- 535 mm. If you're lucky, the Nexus you end up with would have had the upgrade thrust bearing kit installed in the head.

The main gear doubles as the gear that drives the tail rotor, having the gear molded into its top surface. If you accidentally stick the tail feathers into the grass, the main gear usually ends up losing a few teeth. Main gears can be had, but you have to look around to find them.

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* Making the World a Better Place -- One Helicopter at a time! *

Dave
06-07-2008 04:58 PM
 
 
dell17999
Senior Heliman
Location: Shanghai,China

it was my first heli in 1999, much headache: plastic link balls, starter bell stuck, after 1 month, i got a raptor

why not a caliber4?
06-17-2008 12:22 PM
 
 
heli_headcase
Veteran
Location: Hovering around Atlanta

Which Version Necksucks 30?

There's two 30 versions: 30S and the 30 Deluxe (and two "larger" versions too).

The 30S really is a very poor flying heli if one of the very first versions is found. If the main blade pitch arms are in the trailing position, it's the early model and should be avoided. The later models have leading pitch arms and stiffer damper rubber and fly OK but the plastic linkage balls do wear fast.

The Deluxe model has all metal balls and the independent flapping rotor head. This one flys very nice, has thrust bearings, better pitch slider (ball raced) and something else I've forgotten. It's been a while

All Nexi have clutch shoe and starter shaft coupler problems if not set up with great care. There's no positive means of making sure the engine's crank and fan/shoe assembly is centered "square" in the clutch bell. Any misalignment and the screws securing the shoes to the fan hub like to fracture. Never happened to my three Nexuses but happened to very many other models.

That main gear is very fragile. A concerted effort must be made to shim it up from underneath to remove all play between the center tail bevel and the steel tail pickoff gears. I had one lose a tooth for no reason at all and as previously mentioned, gears are somewhat difficult to find.

Oh yes, main blades are 530mm long, 4mm bolt and 12mm root. By adding 20mm to the tail boom the more common 550mm blades can be used. Not hard to do. Too bad the 88 tooth main gears were dropped from production very early in favor of 86T, makes the longer blades less of a correct load on a basic .32 engine but should work well with the bigger .37 and .40ci in the .32 mounting size. And don't forget there's a .46 (.50!) engine mount that lets a .52-.63 four stroke sit in the engine room too. But that's all a waste of time for the most part. Lots of problems getting reliable operation and carb adjustments.

Last thing, the mainshaft hole in the base of the Deluxe head isn't on center. The head wobbles and perfectly balanced main blades will allow the Nexus to shake. All of these Deluxe heads have the same problem. It varies from part-to-part but all have the error.

My $.02.


HHC

So many heli's - too little time...
06-19-2008 08:58 AM
 
 
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