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e-Miniature Aircraft Furion - Razor - Ion-X > E Stratus
 
 
cgbole
Veteran
Location: tulsa ok

Last weekend i got my E Stratus together and in the air, and Mark ordered a Stratus conversion kit from Heliproz Monday. Last night he gutted the Ion-x 1.5 belt drive we cooked up. Supposed to have the conversion today and the rest of it should show up by Friday. so he'll probly have it in the air Saturday. His will be V-bared.
chuck

Synergizer flybarless and.... E-T 700..... TP Kicks ...........
06-05-2008 12:22 PM
 
 
cgbole
Veteran
Location: tulsa ok

Dale if i remember right the Ion used a 93T main gear.
chuck

Synergizer flybarless and.... E-T 700..... TP Kicks ...........
06-05-2008 12:28 PM
 
 
Chachin
Senior Heliman
Location: Cape Canaveral, FL

Hello Dale,

The Ion-X2 normally comes with a 93t main gear. But you can also get them in 90, 92, 95 and 100t... all double stacked if necessary. Can't wait to see what you guys come up with.

Chachin..

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06-05-2008 03:36 PM
 
 
bathmagic
Senior Heliman
Location: Berwick,Victoria, Australia

e stratus

Thanks Guys

I will ring my MA distrubtor now for a 100tooth main gear !

Thanks Dale

3DMP , Vbar 600 "Innovation" The key to success !
06-06-2008 06:41 AM
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TomC
Veteran
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia

Dale,

If you have any trouble locating a 100t main gear, I've got a new one in stock that I could loan (or sell) you.

Cheers,
Tom C

CX2 2s
Logo10- 3D 5s
Trex600 10s
2x Ion-x, 1x15s DS, 1x15s SS
06-06-2008 11:53 AM
 
 
bathmagic
Senior Heliman
Location: Berwick,Victoria, Australia

estratus

Tom,
is that the double stacked one ?

thanks for the offer

Dale

3DMP , Vbar 600 "Innovation" The key to success !
06-06-2008 02:09 PM
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MrMel
Elite Veteran
Location: Lidingo, Sweden

only the ion-x2 can use double stacked gear. it wont fit an stratus


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06-06-2008 03:26 PM
 
 
cgbole
Veteran
Location: tulsa ok

We (Michael) flew the E Stratus pretty darn hard when we first came up with this conversion. and the only time i had main gear problems
with it other than a crash was from a main shaft collar cracking when i tightened it too hard. After that i used two of them on the bottom and never had a problem with that since.

I had a Ion-x2 also and even using a lower Kv motor (neu 1915 1.5y) the main gear would get pretty darn hot. Sorry i don't remember how hot but you couldn't hold your finger on it.

Now the Hv 85 i had on the E Stratus, thats a different storey. The first one was flawless, untill it was damaged in a crash.
The second one i couldn't get to connect to the link at times and i coulsn't get it to work at first. So i put my Schulze 32.55 on it a nd flew it on 11s everything worked great. But i put the 85 back on it to go back to 12s and flew it first on 10s fine then 11s fine when we put 12s to it something caused the motor to cook big time..
Hopefully the newer ones work better, i'll find out as i have one on there again.
chuck

Synergizer flybarless and.... E-T 700..... TP Kicks ...........
06-06-2008 06:25 PM
 
 
MrMel
Elite Veteran
Location: Lidingo, Sweden

spray maingear + pinion with silicon spray, then it stays cool and less prone to stripping, i do it on regular basis


Team Autopartner - Team pilot
06-06-2008 06:57 PM
 
 
TomC
Veteran
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia

Dale,

Just a single 100t gear. Not enough room to modify my original version Ion-x's for double-stacked main gears. I could modify my frameset a bit to make it fit but it would then get in the way of my flight packs.

It's too bad that MA could not just widen the gear faces on their current main gears (all have ~11mm wide faces) about 2mm (+1mm top and bottom) to ~13mm total. This would add ~20% tooth contact which would help a bit and they would easily fit within all their current framesets. The secondary gears on the old double staged Ion-x are even worse. It's face is only ~8mm wide. MA used to make a double stacked secondary, but they no longer produce these. Again, no reason why these gears could not have just been made a few mm wider.

Of course, it would also help if these main gears were CNC machined (i.e. perfectly round) to begin with (although they are fairly close, better than most). Like Mel says, a fairly tight gear mesh works best. I locate the high spot on my maingear and mesh it fairly tight to that point. I then give the heli 2-3 light 5 min runs. After the white dust has settled, so to speak, I recheck the meshing and adjust it again, if necessary. Usually, it just fixes itself up after the first 2-3 run-ins.

Mel,

Good suggestion on the silicon spray. I'll give this a go on my 15s pinion/secondary gear, which does get a bit warm. Also, polishing the metal pinion teeth always helps a bit as well. Some heat, esp. with Neu motors, gets transmitted from the motor as well.

Cheers,
TomC

CX2 2s
Logo10- 3D 5s
Trex600 10s
2x Ion-x, 1x15s DS, 1x15s SS
06-06-2008 09:30 PM
 
 
bathmagic
Senior Heliman
Location: Berwick,Victoria, Australia

E stratus

I apreciate the tips guys, Especially the silicon spray

I have my mesh tight even my main gear was nice and round with minimal high spots, i will polish the pinion also.

I wonder if i can trim around the frames to fit the ionx-2 double stacked main gear in, does anyone know the thinkness of them ?

also will it go on the standard stratus hub ?

PS i also received the new Scorpion 560kv motor to try today! exciting times ahead.

Thanks Dale

3DMP , Vbar 600 "Innovation" The key to success !
06-07-2008 12:22 AM
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Wyvern
Heliman
Location: Perth, Western Australia

Hey Dale,

Let us know how you get on with the Scorpion motor

Currently got a Z-Power Z70 in my e-stratus at the moment, and I've got Glenn's Actro 32-3 to try as well. Now just got to get the power jazz speedy sorted and it's ready to rock!

Cheers,
Warrick

Futaba 14MZ (mode 2)
MA Ion-X2 12S
06-07-2008 02:02 AM
 
 
Wyvern
Heliman
Location: Perth, Western Australia

Hey Dale,

Got the power jazz sorted, unfortunately on my first flight (1 minute of flight time) the heli locked out and at 2000 on head it hit hard into the ground.

The damage is both side frames (seriously busted), boom, tail output shaft is bent, blade grip, flybar, servo supports, servo savers, servo casings, main shaft, blades etc...

Although funnily enough neither the main gear, crown gear, nor the tail gears actually stripped.

Anyways for those curious to see the damage take a look at:

http://picasaweb.google.com/warrick...l/EStratusCrash

Given the damage, I am going to convert the stratus to a ion-x2 as it will be probably a couple of $100 more than fixing the stratus.

Cheers,
Warrick

Futaba 14MZ (mode 2)
MA Ion-X2 12S
06-08-2008 03:32 AM
 
 
stanc
Veteran
Location: Conroe, TX

Hey Dale, get another 4035HK and sent it to me. I need one badly.

Stan
2 x Ion X2
eStartus
eAvro90
Performance Plus Lipo Packs
06-09-2008 12:42 AM
 
 
bathmagic
Senior Heliman
Location: Berwick,Victoria, Australia

stanc

I think the distributor has a few left

do you want one ?

Dale

3DMP , Vbar 600 "Innovation" The key to success !
06-09-2008 12:31 PM
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bathmagic
Senior Heliman
Location: Berwick,Victoria, Australia

E-Stratus

Ok i have changed the speedy to the Power jazz,

Ready to fly (less packs) is 3708 grams so its not too bad really

i shall post some pics later

Dale

3DMP , Vbar 600 "Innovation" The key to success !
06-13-2008 10:24 AM
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MrMel
Elite Veteran
Location: Lidingo, Sweden

http://heli.dacsa.net/E-Stratus/E-S...6-14%20DP30.wmv
http://heli.dacsa.net/E-Stratus/E-S...6-14%20DP25.wmv

Two flights with my Vbarred E-stratus today, nothing special, was a "tad" nervous since I just flown the E-Aurora for the first time


Team Autopartner - Team pilot
06-14-2008 10:05 PM
 
 
bathmagic
Senior Heliman
Location: Berwick,Victoria, Australia

E-stratus

Fredrick

and the Aurora ??? come on spill the beans....
How does it go?

Dale

3DMP , Vbar 600 "Innovation" The key to success !
06-15-2008 01:31 AM
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