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Beginners Corner > bad servos on blade 400
 
 
heliman79
Senior Heliman
Location: loxley, alabama united states

i have went thru two (2) "elevator" servos on my blade 400, first one was because of a last second tip over on landing due to a wind gust. second one just locked up in flight( in idle up) and drove it nose first into the ground. now i need to rebuild the whole head, replace blades and main shaft/ feathering spindle. i know the servo sits under the battery, so could this be part of the problem? i have ordered hitec hs 65 mg as replacements, but are back order at my lhs so, what parts of the t-rex are interchangable with the blade 400( besides mains and tails). ireally love the heli thus far, but this little problem is pissing me off. im also having problems getting the main gear of the main shaft.

damn, that was close!
05-25-2008 03:37 AM
 
 
speeddemon370
Veteran
Location: Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada

Sorry to say this dude but you deserve it.

Wow, another guy with b400 servo problems. Never heard that one before. I guess since there's only 100 other threads discussing the EXACT SAME PROBLEM there would be absolutely no point in reading them huh? Why read when you can just start another thread?

Oh yeah, with the shaft bent it's gonna be hard to slip the gear out, just make sure you got your shaft retaining collar and jesus bolts out and give er a yank.

with 2 ears and 1 mouth you should listen twice as much as you talk
05-26-2008 02:43 AM
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eggmcmuffinplz
Key Veteran
Location: Valencia, CA

The second servo locked up because it was probably missing a couple teeth and you didnt know about it.

I may be 14... but Im faster with my reflexes!
Super Auto Master Scott
Cypher 3D Rexy 500-DX7
05-26-2008 02:49 AM
 
 
SkyWarp
Senior Heliman
Location: Planet Earth

Blade 400 is junk. You better off gutting it out and put your own electronics. However, it's not worth the time or the effort.


Century Swift-
I was born at night, but I wasn't born last night.
05-27-2008 05:37 PM
 
 
TJinGuy
Elite Veteran
Location: Socorro, NM - USA

Simply replace the servos with something like HS65s and move on.

- Chris

Variety+spice+life+supporting_paper_towel_industry=
King2+Rex450+Protos+Concept30
05-27-2008 07:05 PM
 
 
30636086
Senior Heliman
Location: Tacoma, WA

bad servos on blade 400

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Blade 400 is junk.
We all have to start somewhere! Its not wise and or safe to go out and get the biggest and or baddest when you are new or just starting! Did you think it be wise or safe to learn how to drive in a indy car? or instead of using a lil bycle with training wheels you sent your kid on a 250cc dirt bike? IMO there is several factors to take in consideration, like safety and $; to start. What may be suitable for you may not be suitable for others!

But the bottom line is that we have to crawl before we walk and then run! That's my 2 cents.


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but this little problem is pissing me off. im also having problems getting the main gear of the main shaft.

go to Blade400repair.com that will help you a lot, and yea once you change the servos it will be a lot better, and all you have to do is spend a lil time reading and you will find the answers use the SEARCH tool !! Good luck and have fun.

POS we all become expert mechanics before pilots!

ALEX

1- take apart 2-repair damage 3-check everything 4-go fly and crash 5- repeat #1
05-27-2008 08:11 PM
 
 
co_rotorhead
Senior Heliman
Location: Centennial, CO, USA

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Its not wise and or safe to go out and get the biggest and or baddest when you are new or just starting!

I disagree. A 50-sized heli is MUCH more stable and easier for a beginner to learn on than a 450-sized heli. And (arguably) you can spend just as much money getting a Trex 450 in the air as say, a stock Raptor 50.

Of course, the first $150-200 plunked down in this hobby should always go to a decent simulator...

I never finish anythi
05-27-2008 09:07 PM
 
 
30636086
Senior Heliman
Location: Tacoma, WA

bad servos on blade 400

co_rotorhead
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A 50-sized heli is MUCH more stable and easier for a beginner to learn on than a 450-sized heli. And (arguably) you can spend just as much money getting a Trex 450 in the air as say, a stock Raptor 50.


I agree with you, but my point was besides the $ is safety!! a bird that size can inflict and cause way more damage than a 450!! But yeah you are right you can put the same $ or more on a 450 size than you will pay for a bigger one.

IMO is better to get the feel for it and learn the basics, for safety reasons!! And seek the guidance of someone with the knowledge, that's just my opinion!

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Of course, the first $150-200 plunked down in this hobby should always go to a decent simulator...
That will the best investment!

1- take apart 2-repair damage 3-check everything 4-go fly and crash 5- repeat #1
05-27-2008 09:20 PM
 
 
sinte
Senior Heliman
Location: tacoma,WA

word!!

.....97% Adrenaline...3% Skill.....
05-29-2008 03:23 AM
 
 
JRjoe
Elite Veteran
Location: Portage, IN




JRjoe
05-29-2008 08:44 PM
 
 
Fullpitch
Senior Heliman
Location: Deerfield Beach,Florida

Buy better servos you get what you pay for.
05-30-2008 12:09 AM
 
 
GhostlyRock
New Heliman
Location: Yorkshire, UK

Upgrade the servos and you'll see it makes a vast difference.

Thats what I like about here, someone comes with a problem and his heli gets called junk. Not a nice feeling if its your heli you spent your $ on. What we all must realise is the B400 is just what it is, a value for money starting point, and not the ultimate.

We cant all start with the bigger stuff, sometimes its $ that talks.
05-30-2008 12:14 AM
 
 
Helidown
New Heliman
Location: Northern Ireland

HiTech HS65HB servos are cheap,slot straight in (almost,just need to open the mount for the pitch and aileron servos with a needle file a fraction)and they are very reliable. They also work very well indeed if not better than the DS75s.

06-10-2008 11:51 PM
 
 
david raptor
Senior Heliman
Location: uk swales newport

as any one tryed these servos HS65MG http://www.modelhelicopters.co.uk/a...nfo_HS65MG.html

raptor mad
06-13-2008 10:24 PM
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30636086
Senior Heliman
Location: Tacoma, WA

yes! I have them in my blade and have hold in 3 crashes and on one of then was a real hard one. Those servos are rock solid! I can assure that!!!!

1- take apart 2-repair damage 3-check everything 4-go fly and crash 5- repeat #1
06-13-2008 11:16 PM
 
 
david raptor
Senior Heliman
Location: uk swales newport

thanks for that

raptor mad
06-14-2008 09:49 PM
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Smacka
Heliman
Location: Weedville, PA

:quote:Sorry to say this dude but you deserve it.

Wow, another guy with b400 servo problems. Never heard that one before. I guess since there's only 100 other threads discussing the EXACT SAME PROBLEM there would be absolutely no point in reading them huh? Why read when you can just start another thread?

Oh yeah, with the shaft bent it's gonna be hard to slip the gear out, just make sure you got your shaft retaining collar and jesus bolts out and give er a yank.

with 2 ears and 1 mouth you should listen twice as much as you talk:quote:


I cannot believe what I am reading! Heliman79 posted in the "beginner" page, asking for assistance. Does he get it? Yes, with a complete side order of bullchit from Speeddemon370.

There is absolutely nothing of value in Speeddemon370's trash talking reply. Why do people treat others this way? In Kinderkarten we learned the basics...do unto others, etc...

Guess the DEMON skipped class that day, eh?

And I just love his/her signature...quote: "WITH TWO EARS AND ONE MOUTH YOU SHOULD LISTEN TWICE AS MUCH AS YOU TALK"

Why, so you can listen to or read his/her garbage?

At least the DEMON is not the norm. People like that just do low-fly-bys to hear their gums rattle, then leave for a few weeks to give us a break.

Heliman79:
Keep on posting and asking for help. That is the way real human beings live and learn.

Have a great day!
Smacka
06-15-2008 06:08 AM
 
 
speeddemon370
Veteran
Location: Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada

Most human beings live and learn by reading and learning. Not being spoonfed information one tidbit at a time. Duplicate posts are against rr policy so it's not just me that gets annoyed with them. Oh, and since you're so familiar with preschool, when you ask your teacher how to spell something does he/she tell you the spelling or teach you how to look it up? It would be a pretty boring class if he/she had to explain how to spell any particular word to each and every child individually because they're too thick to just listen when it was taught the first time.

Search engines were invented for a reason, use them. The people in the know aren't going to copy and paste the answer to your problems 50 times a week. You're best answers lie in the existing posts where people have already solved the problems and moved on. Or I guess you could go through it all over again and reinvent the wheel each and everytime you need to go for a drive. Oh well, your choice I guess. I do welcome you mr.smacka to read my previous posts. You know, the one's where I attempt to help people with relevant issues aside from wheel reinventing. You however seem to think that you're first couple posts should be flamers. Oh well, I guess since you're brand new to the forum you know everything there is to know about what happens and why. However, technically speaking that makes you one of the "garbage" writers. Oh well, to each thier own.

It's funny because being new you just clicked the button that says "I agree" to the rr policy of no duplicate posts. Oh well, I guess if you read proficiently we wouldn't be having this problem to begin with huh? Don't worry you'll get it, and next week we'll teach you to eat soup with a spoon and tie your laces.

with 2 ears and 1 mouth you should listen twice as much as you talk
06-15-2008 06:26 AM
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Smacka
Heliman
Location: Weedville, PA

Speeddemon370:
This will be my last response to you. I apologize to the rest of you for having been subjected to this 3rd grade mentality. This post (meaning my last response) is definitely not value added, and for that I humbly apologize but I feel it very necessary. There is way too much bullying going on at this site. Looks like Run Ryder's moderators have fallen asleep OR it is time to instill some in place.

Funny you should mention spelling. Looks like your teachers could not help you in that category, either.

You wrap your angry diatribe around a guise of being helpful to others AND to champion Run Ryder's by-laws of no multiple/duplicate posts.

Thank God Run Ryder has you around to "police" their site. Whatever would they do without you?

There is over 100 different ways you could have approached your "annoyance" without demeaning Heliman79. You have a nasty character flaw that feels it is okay to verbally abuse another human being, and that is hardly Heliman79's fault!!

I have exposed your game for what it is. I small appendaged little whimp that has nothing better to do than to beat up on others through a message board whereby you do not have to actually face your foe. You are a disgusting man/woman that deserves no audiance, other than a jury of your peers. You have serious self esteem issues, unlike that of a morbid serial killer waiting for his/her next flesh eating fix.

You hide behind a nick name on a message board and take petty pot shots at others. How lonely your life must be?

Now, go ahead and kick your poodle or beat your wife/husband and/or kids.

I hope you feel good about yourself...that is what is most important.

Lastly, to profess that if one person has more time spent on a message board than another somehow makes you more knowledgeable on topic or life in general...well, that just goes to show how ignorant you really are. In this case, it is a testament that one person has a life, and the other does not.

I bid you a good day...

Regards,
Smacka
06-15-2008 12:42 PM
 
 
fenderstrat
Elite Veteran
Location: Aston,Pa

I never understand why people who dont even own a particular heli,need to go out of their way to be rude and negative...if you dont have anything helpful to add...shut the F up...why post...you aren't helping..and you are creating bad vibes all around..no one is forcing you to post....for every heli out there,EVERY heli,there is someone that thinks its junk,so those opinions dont even matter...we've all been beginners,we've all asked "dumb"questions...ones that have been asked hundreds of times on here....thats what this site is for, to learn...unless everyone here is an expert on every heli out there...a little patience and tolerance would be nice

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Futaba FASST
06-15-2008 04:40 PM
 
 
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