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Synergy R/C Synergy N9 > Stratus or Synergy?
 
 
pariah
Senior Heliman
Location: West Valley City, UT - United States of America

I've narrowed my options down to the Stratus or the N9; right now I'm leaning towards the Stratus, in spite a preference for the looks of the N9.

One of the reasons I'm leaning towards the Stratus is the raw number of people who seem to be getting "upgrades" for the N9, and almost no mention of the word in the MA forum.

After spending years with Raptors and Sceadus (with their accompanying upgrades), I'd really rather just get a machine that wouldn't benefit from 'upgrades'; given the number of people who seem to buy upgrades for the N9, I'm given the impression that the N9 doesn't come out of the box as well as the Stratus does.

The raw number of people posting "Got my SE Upgrades" really turns me off, to be honest. I've heard about every kind of "you don't need to upgrade this..." for .50 sized machines for years. If you don't need to upgrade it, why are you doing it?

Since I'm still trying to decide, I figured I'd give N9 owners a chance to give me their views on the situation. For instance, are new N9 kits likely to have the SE parts (at all, or anytime soon?), or are they an "upgrade" for the forseeable future?

Another consideration is that I'd like a lot of room under the canopy - I like my electronics - gyro, governor, carb control, regulator, and maybe room for flybarless sometime in the future...

Thoughts?


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Helicopters & Women: The last thing I want is one whose head has a few loose screws.
05-24-2008 05:39 AM
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cdrking
Elite Veteran
Location: Seattle

Keep in mind the Stratus did not come with all of the "upgrades" at one time. It's been an evolution of a machine, many things were taken from other MA products and this evolved into the Stratus. I personally have not owned a Stratus, but after having owned a Fury and now the Synergy I would not go back to MA products.

Many things that were upgraded on the Stratus:
-tail hub (from the Fury design)
-Clutch bearing block
-Torque tube update (several)
-Fly bar carrier
-Front transmission shaft/support
-Open tail case (has gone through several design changes, there were faulty gears)
-Fuel tank (has had it's growing pains)

MA does make a nice product, but keep in mind they've been around a while and have gone through many small problems. This goes for any heli IMO, they will or have been through some changes.

The Synergy the way it comes needs one upgrade IMO, and that's the Hyper hub. The rest is a bit overkill as far as spending.

The newer Synergy kits come with some design changes, but better yet come with a much better quality kit than the original ones. As far as the SE, I don't know much about it other than it will come with some of the upgrades you're seeing from Synergy.

By far the Synergy is the best flying machine I've owned. It also has a low parts count and is MUCH easier to work on than a MA machine IMO.

Just a few things to consider, I'm sure there are more points, but this may help you decide.

Jeff

To hover is divine, the alternative is rather PLANE.
05-24-2008 05:50 AM
 
 
baddraptor
Elite Veteran
Location: valencia, ca- usa

For the price difference between the two,with the synergy you can get almost all the hyper upgrades and still come in cheaper than the BW Stratus. Plus you would have a better flying heli...

Synergy N9.. Its the only way to fly...

**Unattended children will be givin a shot of espresso and a puppy**
05-24-2008 05:55 AM
 
 
Funky Trex
Key Veteran
Location: Westerville, OH - USA

I own a Stratus and my buddy flies a Synergy. They are both very nice helis. I don't think you could go wrong either way.



05-24-2008 06:39 AM
 
 
HiroboFreak
Senior Heliman
Location: Central Coast, NSW, Australia

A good friend of mine was a die-hard Stratus fan. (4 machines ready to go at any mine, not to mention more spares than an MA dealer )

A "Team Synergy Australia" pilot offered him a flight of his box stock N9 at a local Fun-Fly.
He took it home with him that day!

All his Stratus' & parts went up for sale soon after & he now flies only Synergy.

That's a fact!

PM BlingBoy on this forum & find out straight from the horse's mouth!

Synergy N9 | T600n Pro
05-24-2008 07:24 AM
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helinewby
Senior Heliman
Location: Mason Ohio

stratus too many parts

If you buy a stratus and not the synergy your going to be sorry!
but really you need to come to Ircha and fly both and then decide if there not flying both at your field. In my opinion both machines are very nice but parts count, looks,complexity,locked in feeling, smoothness, SYNERGY is the machine!

If you go with the
YSSR engine,
JR8717 on top,
quick servo on throttle
hyper hub is a must!
4.9 then 6v then 8v
YOU WILL NEVER LOOK BACK I PROMISE


But dont mind me i have a synergy addiction

C.B.
05-24-2008 11:11 AM
 
 
wings19
Senior Heliman
Location: Traverse City, MI

I sold my Fury Extreme to get my N9 and have never looked back. The lower parts count and simplicity of the N9 is so much nicer, that was my biggest complaint about MA.

The Synergy's don't NEED any upgrades, they fly great out of the box if you build it right. I got the hyper hub and hyper drive to make the build easier(less dial indicating) among other hyper bling upgrades but they weren't necessary. The SE kits coming out have all the upgrades and you won't even have to buy any of the hyper stuff that way.

As far as room under the canopy goes... I really like the tray design they used because it made mounting everything clean and easy. There is enough room under there for my RX, GV-1, carb smart, Fromeco Arizona and 5200 battery with no trouble at all.

Nick
If the wings are travelling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter
05-24-2008 01:23 PM
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Bart B
Veteran
Location: Synergy alley

Funky
Nice pics. The first one look at the head button compare with the exhaust pipe height.The N9 is alot more compact.The second,look at the frame height.Big difference.
The fuel tanks have got to be the worst thing.One thing I always tell my buddies is tighten your strap before you fly
Canopy profile of the N9 can't be beat.Plus that Canomod is way too hot.
05-24-2008 03:22 PM
 
 
thenewguy
Veteran
Location: Corvallis ,OR ,USA

I have owned both. Get a Synergy.
05-24-2008 06:44 PM
 
 
HyperDave
Heliman
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon

I have owned both and sold by Stratus to get a Synergy when they came out. Have had zero issues with my Synergy. I recommend the
Synergy
05-25-2008 01:02 AM
 
 
david11cap
Veteran
Location: connecticut

What is a hyper hub?
05-25-2008 01:57 AM
 
 
racingrandy
Heliman
Location: Merritt Island FL

the hyper hub what the clutch and fan bolt to and that goes on the engine the hub that comes with the N9 use collet and some time hard to get it to dial in right with the hyper hub uses 2 bolts that pinch on to the engine shaft and lines up every time
05-25-2008 09:27 PM
 
 
david11cap
Veteran
Location: connecticut

No dial indicating needed?
05-25-2008 11:00 PM
 
 
Bart B
Veteran
Location: Synergy alley

I couldn't get a reading after I installed mine.A truly innovative product,hence the current crop of knockoffs.
05-25-2008 11:22 PM
 
 
helinewby
Senior Heliman
Location: Mason Ohio

SUPPORT !

I see that you ask the same question on the MA forum but no answers!
you will always find some one to answer your question on the Synergy side. THAT IN IT SELF GOES ALONG WAAAY


C.B.
05-25-2008 11:32 PM
 
 
pariah
Senior Heliman
Location: West Valley City, UT - United States of America

Quote 
I see that you ask the same question on the MA forum but no answers!
you will always find some one to answer your question on the Synergy side. THAT IN IT SELF GOES ALONG WAAAY

Yeah, I was thinking something along the same lines... When the odds of running into another Synergy pilot in my locale appear to be about zero, that's an important consideration.

Still, I can't help but wonder if I should hold off any purchase until I hear about SE kits shipping... it would really suck to order & find out a couple of weeks later that I could have gotten the improved parts in the box had I only waited...


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Helicopters & Women: The last thing I want is one whose head has a few loose screws.
05-25-2008 11:41 PM
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carzan
Senior Heliman
Location: The Lone Star State

If that's how you feel then wait a few weeks. But whatever you do GET THE N9. We have had a fury ( not a stratus) but the synergy is the answer!!!! after all Synergy N9, It's all you need, and then some!!!!



Team Turd!!!
05-26-2008 12:12 AM
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Scooterpilot
Key Veteran
Location: Southern, California

Difference between repair time with a MA and N9. The MA requires a weekend and a case of beer and the N9 requires two beers and two hrs.

Two N-9's,600N, MagnumFuel Rep, YS Rep
05-26-2008 04:28 AM
 
 
Flyboy Shady
Heliman
Location: Stockholm

Yes the Synergy is all right. I have two stock machines and I love them. No need to upgrade them. I come from Raptor 50 and 90, these machines are in another league. Simply very very good!
05-27-2008 06:43 PM
 
 
pariah
Senior Heliman
Location: West Valley City, UT - United States of America

Well, I've gone & done it: I ordered an N9.

A couple of things that helped the decision:
1.) Manufacturers put PDFs of the manuals on their website. This gave me a good chance to review both designs.
2.) ronlund.com's specifications - which showed a fueled & ready to fly N9 is 0.4 lbs heavier than the Stratus - much less than the full pound I was expecting.
3.) ronlund.com's "crash index" - ie. average cost to replace parts destroyed in a crash.

In the course of my search, I found it interesting to hear the number of arguments that the stratus has no "plastic" parts - when the stratus's manual quite clearly shows this is not the case - blade grips & washout to name a few - the same parts that stratus owners were complaining were plastic on the N9.

Additionally, while carbon is stronger than G10, it's also much more expensive... which plays into the cost to replace parts destroyed in a crash.

I thank RunRyder's community for all of their posts, from both sides of the debate for your input. It helped me make a more informed decision.


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Helicopters & Women: The last thing I want is one whose head has a few loose screws.
05-28-2008 01:29 PM
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