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Razmo
Key Veteran
Location: Chicago

Hey guys,

Does anyone know why my aileron servo arm rotates to a new position when I reverse it's direction? I can't make any sense of it.

I'm using a DX7 with an AR6100 rx on a fresh model memory. I consider myself a rather experienced builder but don't recall ever encountering this.

With the system ON, I give it left cyclic roll and both left and right servo arms move up. When I reverse the aileron channel, the servo arm rotates to a new position instead of holding it's current position?

Raz
05-15-2008 04:44 AM
 
 
george0079
Elite Veteran
Location: Terra Firma

trims, or sub trims will make it do this

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Steve
05-15-2008 04:47 AM
 
 
Skarn
Senior Heliman
Location: Pasadena, MD

That happens when you reverse direction. That's why you have to remove the arm and readjust to get 90 degrees again.

Skarn

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05-15-2008 04:47 AM
 
 
dkshema
rrProfessor
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA

Unless the servo is perfectly centered, whenever you reverse its direction, the servo will move to what is essentially the mirror image position of where it originally was.

If it had ten degrees of clockwise displacement from neutral prior to reversing THAT channel, the servo would have to move to its new commanded position of ten degrees counter-clockwise displacement from neutral when you reverse that channel.

If you're setting up a CCPM system, use the channel reversing switches ONLY to get the servos moving correctly with respect to each other -- for instance, in that commanded roll movement, the two servos that control aileron have to move so that one moves up while the other moves down. If they both move in the same direction (both up, or both down), reverse ONE of them at the TX.

Same goes for elevator. The two that control aileron movement want to move in the SAME direction (both UP, or both DOWN) while the third servo (plugged into the ELEVATOR channel) wants to move in the opposite direction. If all three servos move in the same direction for ELEVATOR commands, reverse the ELEVATOR channel to fix it.

In order to get the servos moving correctly with respect to the STICK -- change the sign of the associated function in the swash mix/swash AFR menu of your TX.

If the swash tilts left for a right aileron command and you have +65 dialed into the aileron swash mix/swash AFR menu, change the number to -65, for example. If elevator goes the wrong direction with respect to the STICK, change the sign of the Elevator mix number from + to - (or - to +). Same goes for Collective.

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And generally, at neutral stick, no trims or subtrims, with a linear 0 to 100% pitch curve, collective at mid stick, all servo arms would be centered in their travel range, and in most heli geometries, the arms would be parallel to the skids (or ground).

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Dave
05-15-2008 06:17 AM
 
 
Igor-sik-corski
Heliman
Location: Hopatcong, NJ- U.S.A.

one other issue I have come across is having the two rear servos swapped, left servo in the right and so on.

I was setting up a blade cp, swapped servo plugs in the receiver and poof, everything worked fine.
05-15-2008 06:18 AM
 
 
JRjoe
Elite Veteran
Location: Portage, IN

Good Answers....


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05-15-2008 09:07 AM
 
 
Skarn
Senior Heliman
Location: Pasadena, MD

Excellent reply dkshema!

I was too tired to give the specifics like you did, but it's dead on.

Skarn

It's better to burn out than to fade away...
05-15-2008 02:53 PM
 
 
Razmo
Key Veteran
Location: Chicago

Thanks guys,

Weird, I don't ever recall seeing this servo behavior before? Maybe I just wasn't a finicky as I am now?

I'm glad to hear this. THANKS!

Raz
05-15-2008 05:26 PM
 
 
dkshema
rrProfessor
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA

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one other issue I have come across is having the two rear servos swapped, left servo in the right and so on.

Those would probably be the ones that control the aileron function. No big deal, you didn't need to swap them, just go to the swash mix/afr menu and change the sign of the aileron mix.

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Dave
05-16-2008 04:06 AM
 
 
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