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Main Discussion > Full size heli crash at IRCHA
 
 
TankDirt
Senior Heliman
Location: illinois

I remember reading about (A long time ago) A fullsize Bell 47 crash At IRCHA 2004...I found an old thread

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/...rcha+bell+crash


And I found this...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFY8stQo8tc


Is this the crash???It says muncie Indiana And I can hear Heli's in the background...
05-15-2008 01:38 AM
 
 
cmartin
Veteran
Location: Kouts IN

yup
05-15-2008 01:42 AM
 
 
Jdonovan
Senior Heliman
Location: Louisville, Ky

Yes that was the crash at ircha I was in a vendor tent and witnessed the crash.
05-15-2008 01:44 AM
 
 
phattalon
Senior Heliman
Location: Muncie In

Yes this crash happened at ircha. The pilot was taking a friend of mine Jc Zankl for a ride when the motor quit way to low to auto it down. Jc and the pilot walked away from the crash. Somewhere online there are up close photos from the crash.

Jason Russell
05-15-2008 05:25 AM
 
 
legoman67
Elite Veteran
Location: Nanoose Bay B.C, Canada

wow, ive watched that vid afew times, and its not till you pointed that out that it clicked! jeez! where are these close ups?

Matt M.
http://www.filepile.ca
05-15-2008 05:34 AM
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phattalon
Senior Heliman
Location: Muncie In

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/...lies/IRCHA2004/

Jason Russell
05-15-2008 05:42 AM
 
 
mchammer
Senior Heliman
Location: California,USA



Peace Through Superior Firepower!!!
05-15-2008 05:43 AM
 
 
TankDirt
Senior Heliman
Location: illinois

Wow,Ive seen that video 10-15 times also and it never crossed my mind untill I heard the helis in the background,Then I remembered the old thread...Sounds like jc Had the ride of his life..At least nobody Was hurt...Or worse...So Does the pilot still fly? Has AMA banned fullsize helis from events?
05-15-2008 06:38 AM
 
 
kcordell
Senior Heliman
Location: O Fallon, MO

The Bell belonged to Jerry Conley (I believe that's his last name) of Wildcat fuel. He had spent two years going around the country and buying original Bell parts to refurbish the helicopter. A couple of years before that, Jerry bought a BD-5 jet (remember from the James Bond movie?) and had displayed at the Toledo Show that year. He was talked out of trying to fly that and I think that is when he got the Bell. Jerry is a great guy and was very lucky that he and JC walked away without a scratch. The Bell was only about 40 foot in the air when he had engine failure. I was there and watched in horror like many did. He had already done several passes down the flight line taking video earlier in the day.

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05-15-2008 12:22 PM
 
 
Swoop
Veteran
Location: Newark, DE USA

I was looking at the closeups and noticed that it appeared to have wood blades. Did not know any full size used woodies.
05-15-2008 12:28 PM
 
 
bcrector
Heliman
Location: muncie, IN

no auto?? seems like the guy must have freaked and stalled the rotor
05-15-2008 02:04 PM
 
 
GyroFreak
Key Veteran
Location: Florida ... 28° 50' N 81° 16' W

Here is the NTSB report:

http://www.ntsb.gov/NTSB/GenPDF.asp...I04CA229&rpt=fa

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05-15-2008 02:54 PM
 
 
phattalon
Senior Heliman
Location: Muncie In

For a full scale heli to auto they have to be very high to have enough energy to flare.

Jason Russell
05-15-2008 03:09 PM
 
 
Chopper
Key Veteran
Location: Stow, Ohio, oops, I mean St Louis, MO

Bcrector, that was pretty rash statement...

Paul Soha is a Futaba Team Pilot , Aurora Team Pilot, Wildcat Team Pilot, SAB blades
05-15-2008 03:25 PM
 
 
JKos
Elite Veteran
Location: Town of California in the state of Maryland

bcrector,
http://cybercom.net/~copters/pilot/hvcurve.html

- John

Protos -- Logo 14 -- Logo 10
05-15-2008 03:31 PM
 
 
MAVRICK
Veteran
Location: Las Vegas NV

Ah you beat me to it JKos
05-15-2008 03:33 PM
 
 
bcrector
Heliman
Location: muncie, IN

Thanks, that has some interesting info. BTW was just stating what seemed to be the obvious (before presented w/ more info).
05-15-2008 03:43 PM
 
 
bcrector
Heliman
Location: muncie, IN

I wonder why no further investigation on the engine was officially done?
05-15-2008 03:48 PM
 
 
GM1
Elite Veteran
Location: Tallahassee, Florida US

Investigation

NTSB did investigate and it turned out a timing gear fractured and shut the motor down. At the altitude and speed he was traveling, only superior piloting skills AND a lot of luck let them walk away from this one.
Gordie

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05-15-2008 05:05 PM
 
 
AirWolfRC
Elite Veteran
Location: 42½ N, 83½ W

Two curious things about the NTSB report;
The takeoff was from AMA property, not Reese airport.
- - - not that it matters - - - I was there
The "autopsy" of the engine was brief indeed.
05-15-2008 05:24 PM
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