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e-Lite Machines Corona > How to Loop/Roll LMH-110??

rob_jones
Key Veteran
Location: Oglethorpe, GA

I've gotten pretty comfortable flying my LMH-110. Comfortable to the point that I'm ready to try "hot dogging" it. I tried to do a loop, but I can't seem to carry enough speed to actually loop around. The heli will get pointed straight up, then kind of flop over. I tried rolling it with pretty much the same results except that it would run out of inertia when upside down. Needless to say that's not good with fixed pitch. I did end up putting it in the dirt on a couple of attempts and decided to seek advice before I completely destroyed it.

Has anybody done it? What is the proper technique?

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Team MRC Hirobo
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02-11-2002 Over year old.

chris960
Heliman
Location: Harleyville S.C.

hello i just seen your post i don't have a answer.butif you could help i have a chance to get a lmh but want to know how does it fly is the norvel a pain are you using the stock gyro? would you reccomend it to a newbie.how long does it fly on a tank of fuel.sorry for all the ? but you don't find to many lmh pilots. please reply

02-12-2002 Over year old.

VelociRaptor
Heliman
Location: Statesboro GA

Barrel Roll

Hey man, I saw that barrel roll you did.

That was pretty smooth. Not to much longer and you will be doing those rolls and loops. Just get real high before you start hot doggin. Have you tried a piroette or a dead bird????

See ya at Mac's
Brett

02-12-2002 Over year old.

JestRR
Senior Heliman
Location: Florence, Oregon

loops and rolls

When I had my LMH i could loop it and roll it from a hover. Just dont let off the trottle. Full throttle through the whole manuver!!! If you start out at in fast FF, then dont reff on the back elivator untill its almost verticle. then you can reff on it. The main thing is KEEP IT HIGH!!!! I know they are tough>>>( I barrell rolled one on the ground twice, landed on the skids and took back off ) But you dont want to tear it up. but the main thing other than highth is keep the throttle at full!!
Hope this helps!!

Mike

Mike Spinner
Florence OR
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02-12-2002 Over year old.

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rob_jones
Key Veteran
Location: Oglethorpe, GA

Barrell Roll

Brett: Heh! That was pretty cool. I only wish that I could say I did it on purpose! It's a lot harder when you actually MEAN to do it! I did manage a couple of loops on Sunday, but they were more like back-flops. I did one fairly axial roll and tried for another one. That one put the heli in the weeds on the far side of the runway. It bent the tail boom and mainshaft, but I straightened the tail by hand and kept flying! Mac saw that one go in and came over to get a parts order. He though it was wasted. Just to prove that it would still fly, I let him fly it!! Pirouttes are no problem. But if it breezy, it wants to weathervane and it's hard to make it go around. I'm going to make a new "3D" tail fin with holes through it. That ought to make it easier to spin around. Haven't "done the bird" yet, but I'm sure it'll happen sooner or later!

Chris: The LMH is a great little heli. I will tell you that it's easier to FLY than to HOVER. The fixed pitch makes it a challange to hover in one spot. But it's actually very easy to fly around. I'm using the Arlton Gyro that comes with it and I have a small electronic gyro that I installed. It flies OK without the second gyro, but the tail tends to swing from side to side when you make fast throttle changes. With the second gyro, it becomes very stable. Once you get the routine figured out, the Norvell is very easy to start and keep running. Mine always starts on the first try and runs very reliably. So far, it hasn't "flamed out" during a flight. I understand they are now available with an .074 engine. The extra power would be nice, but it flies great with the .061. I can get about 8 minutes of forward flight or 12 minutes hovering. I think a newbie could handle one just fine. It's incredibly durable, which is good for a beginner. And the parts are not only cheap, but you can make a lot of them yourself. I can buy a piece of 7/32 music wire for $1.20 and make 5 main shafts out of it. Or you can buy one for 8 bucks. The fixed pitch does make it a bit of a challange and it's a handful on a windy day, but overall, I think it's very likely that a beginner could learn on it.

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Team MRC Hirobo
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02-12-2002 Over year old.

concept1
Key Veteran
Location: Youngstown, OH

have you ever seen a eLMH fly, if not you need to. electric LMH, they fly much better than the gas. much more stable and performance is strong not to mention no mess. I just finished my 3rd conversion. for the gryo toss the altron and just get a 1/8 stainless rivit and a wheel collar to remove the altron gyro and get a piezo, you will not regret it. you can buy a kit for $10 or a rivit for 10 cents its all the same.
the rolls are easy, just timming, loops are a little tougher but still can be done just let off the up elevator at the top give a little more ff and then back again.
as electric all these moves are much smoother and easier because of the extra weight.

keep em flyen
JOn

02-12-2002 Over year old.

ry_goody
Heliman
Location: Tigard, OR

I got a LMH 120, the electric one as my very first helicopter this last christmas. Once you get familiar with the controls and they feel natural its fairly easy to keep it off the ground. It is also a very durable helicopter... mine has taken a real beating but haven't spent more than like $20 in repairs. Blades are only $10 if you snap one and generally a little thick CA will fix everything else.

02-12-2002 Over year old.

VelociRaptor
Heliman
Location: Statesboro GA

I hear ya Rob!!!! I bet Mac had a good time with it. Try a dead bird. Take it real high and pull back the throttle to zero until the rotor blades fold up, then gag the throttle and hope the blades unfold and spin up before you hit the dirt. I have seen it done many times at Mac's fly-ins and most of the time successful (most of the time, heheheh...). Every body ooohs and aaahs and just trip out.. later dude.

02-13-2002 Over year old.

rob_jones
Key Veteran
Location: Oglethorpe, GA

Try again

I've got the LMH ready to go again. I made a new main shaft and found that one of the "Z-Links" was missing, so I replaced that. I also moved them to the inner holes on the pitch arms. Supposedly that will make it more responsive. I'll find out this afternoon.

Thanks for all of the advice. I'm going to try using it and see what happens!

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Team MRC Hirobo
I reject your reality and substitute my own.

02-13-2002 Over year old.

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