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Camp
Senior Heliman
Location: Easton, PA

Kinda bummed tonight. Went and flew alone today without my daughter who's a pretty good pilot and my son who's a great builder/tuner.

Been 2 weeks now that they left to live in Germany with my ex' grandmother who's ill. It's for an indefinite period of time but I get the feeling they're not coming back as she has so much family there.

No, I didn't fight it, wouldn't be fair, they're so close to her side of the family.

None the less, I'm just bummed tonight. Didn't even have fun flying, quit after a half pack.

Oh well, talking to a computer again.
05-12-2008 03:47 AM
 
 
rcadd1ct
Elite Veteran
Location: Richardson, Texas

And the computer is listening.

Hang in there and try and occupy yourself with stuff that keeps your mind working.

-RCA .......... Making Cuisinarts Fly!!!!!!!
05-12-2008 03:51 AM
 
 
GimbalFan
Elite Veteran
Location: Copter County, Nv

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I get the feeling they're not coming back
Looking on the bright side, doesn't this free you up to move to where some worthwhile work is? The economy isn't 'slow' everywhere.

Consider a move, Camp.

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05-12-2008 03:59 AM
 
 
helo_chris
Veteran
Location: goodlettsville, tn

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Consider a move, Camp.
x2 that.

It sucks to hear they have moved away but you will see them again. You have to have hope, and make things better for that day. The economy here is actually still doing really well. I am still getting calls from Recruiters and I took a permanent position in January. If you have to be bummed about the family moving away at least you could make a change so you dont have to worry about the job situation or high cost of living because you cant find a decent job.

"There is a fine line between cutting edge and bleeding edge.."
05-12-2008 04:21 AM
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dick smith
Senior Heliman
Location: perth

I feel your pain bud...... Keep your chin up and think positive
05-12-2008 07:07 AM
 
 
Stet
Elite Veteran
Location: Long Beach CA

Camp

What is your skill / previous employment?

keepin' it real
05-12-2008 07:32 AM
 
 
helimatt
Key Veteran
Location: Lafayette, IN

Camp, I am sure you've thought through all this ad infinitum,

but should you really give up on them? What I mean is; your kids love their Dad, and need him in their life. You are right in trying to do what make their lives the best- good for you! Yes, its a very difficult water to navigate. You strike me as a very composed and compassionate man. Your son and daughter need that example and your continued nurturing in their lives. Don't give up. There may be some way to continue to stay close and to have time with them (I don't know how, but there must be a way).

I cannot imagine how low you must feel. Got tears in my eyes here- I have four living children and they mean the world to me, and I love that feeling when they greet me as I walk in the door after work, or when I am home and can wake them and help them get their day started, not to mention weekends when we are all at home together. Don't quite know how I'd get along if we were parted- of course I would, but man, what hurt it'd be.

This may be a low point, but it will get better. Don't step out, find a way to stay with them in some form or another.

Their mother may find that living in Europe is not all she thought it might be.

Never, ever, ever, ever give up.
05-12-2008 02:12 PM
 
 
ccobalt3
Senior HeliGirl
Location: Plainfield,IN

It is not easy having loved ones far away. I know my husband just now returned home after a year in Iraq. We used webcams and yahoo messenger when ever we could while he was away. These are cheap ways to stay connected. The messenger program was honestly the greatest thing he was able to text my phone when I was not at a computer. He could call my cell phone for a reasonable rate or computer to computer calls are free. I know it is not the same as seeing the person but it does help keep you feeling more connected. To make your kids feel more at ease if a webcam makes them shy you could ask them to show you their latest drawing or if they had been shopping their newest purchase. These types of things are good ice breakers. I wish you luck and don't give up.

Fate is not just whose cooking smells good, it's which way the wind blows.
05-12-2008 02:36 PM
 
 
Camp
Senior Heliman
Location: Easton, PA

I'd like to say thank you to everyone.

I felt really guilty after posting this but I'm heartened by the sincere replies.

The webcam is a super idea I will check into that once I find where I will be. This may now be my time to break out as the only thing keeping me where I am was because the kids were near. Without that I can start to look at opportunities anywhere.

I'm not overly religious but I thank God that he made the kind of person that can look up and forward rather than down and out.

There's some really cool opportunities out there and I'm going to find one
05-12-2008 03:24 PM
 
 
xcell1
Heliman
Location: Massillon Ohio

[quote]I'm not overly religious but I thank God that he made the kind of person that can look up and forward rather than down and out.
Well put Camp it can only get better, and your kids will always be with you in your heart.

Chris

Home Grown in South Carolina
05-12-2008 10:40 PM
 
 
dhollein
Key Veteran
Location: Tucson, AZ

Move to Germany if it helps Even if it is just temporary.
05-12-2008 11:33 PM
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helo_chris
Veteran
Location: goodlettsville, tn

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The webcam is a super idea I will check into that once I find where I will be.
That is an excellent idea. They are pretty cheap and all you need is a good internet connection that is reasonably fast to have some good face time. Even if it is video.

"There is a fine line between cutting edge and bleeding edge.."
05-12-2008 11:44 PM
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baddraptor
Elite Veteran
Location: valencia, ca- usa

Dude, you CAN stop them from leaving the country. She is effectively taking away your rights to be able to see you children. If you are not inclined to do that she is LAIBLE to pay your travel cost to see them in Germany. I would contact an attorney ASAP. That is TOTAL BS that she has done this.

I have been through this, trust me it SUX. My ex has to pay for my kids to fly down 4 times a year round trip or for me to fly there. She is liable for half the visits I get with my kids.

Maybe you might want to consider moving over seas.

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No, I didn't fight it, wouldn't be fair, they're so close to her side of the family

Sorry Camp, I disagree. What is NOT fair is for her to take your kids to a foreign country for an undisclosed amount of time and take your parenting rights away from you. They are your kids too. And unless you signed papers agreeing to let them leave, she has broken the law. As 1 parent (even with FULL custody) cannot leave the country without the consent of the other.

**Unattended children will be givin a shot of espresso and a puppy**
05-12-2008 11:52 PM
 
 
Camp
Senior Heliman
Location: Easton, PA

BadRaptor, Thank you, under some circumstances I would agree with you but I did agree and signed a letter of consent.

I don't believe it would be fair to the kids to deny them time with their Oma, she's 91 and needs help and they love her dearly.

They've both spent a couple weeks in the summers in Germany with their cousins and both speak german well so I'm not concerned that they will be comfortable.

I just think fighting just cause I miss them would be petty and counter productive, not the example I'd like to set for them. I'll stay in touch for certain. Guess I just have an odd point of view. (nothing new)

It's just a bummer my little flying club is gone
05-13-2008 03:04 AM
 
 
GimbalFan
Elite Veteran
Location: Copter County, Nv

As for job markets, things are still quite lively here in 'Vegas. Lots of (but not all) southwestern US cities are faring better than their Eastern counterparts due to the desirability of better weather for retirement, lower costs of living and other considerations. Spend some time searching the job markets online for some of the larger SW cities -- you'll probably be pleasantly surprised.

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05-13-2008 03:18 AM
 
 
Camp
Senior Heliman
Location: Easton, PA

Actually Gimbal I did just send a feeler out to someone in that area.

I was out there a few years ago and liked it alot. Maybe someday you'll have someone new at your field!
05-13-2008 03:45 AM
 
 
baddraptor
Elite Veteran
Location: valencia, ca- usa

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I just think fighting just cause I miss them would be petty and counter productive, not the example I'd like to set for them. I'll stay in touch for certain. Guess I just have an odd point of view. (nothing new)

No Camp, you dont have an odd point of view. You are doing EXACTLY as I did. I didnt fight their move. I kept quite about it thinking it wouldnt be good for the kids to see us fight like we were. But on the flip side, the move was not good for me. I even tried to get a job where they moved to, but the market was very scarce. So I returned to LA. I regret it every freakin day of my life. Its been four years now and I get to see my kids 8 times a year. Thats 8 weeks, out of 52. NOT MUCH. My boys are 8 and 6. I have missed most of the memorable moments in their lives ( up to now) and I dont want to see any other man out there go through what I have.

**Unattended children will be givin a shot of espresso and a puppy**
05-13-2008 03:59 AM
 
 
wesb1999
Senior Heliman
Location: Athens, Texas

Never ever give up hope. Ever...

My daughter moved away 15 years ago and it's not been easy all those years. I missed out on a lot. We used the web-cams, millions of minutes on the phone, countless day trips, etc... Of course I regret not being with her all those years but I did what I thought was best for her and I made the best decision I could at the time. That's all you can ever do.

I'm happy to say, however, that when she graduates high school next May she has decided to come live with me and attend a local university. That's why I say never give up hope. After what will be 16 years my daughter will be close to me again. She just looks at me and laughs, thinks her ole dad is silly (in a good way) for being so excited. But I am overwhelmed with joy.

Never give up hope or faith.

Wes
05-13-2008 12:46 PM
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