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SteveH
rrProfessor
Location: Texas

Some of you will recognize the name of Bill Brown. He is a highly respected retired member of the Billy Graham team. So I take his assessment of Obama very seriously and for that reason accept his challenge to pass this on. I share his concern about the 'rock star' image Obama has and watch with growing concern at the celebrity status the media has given him.
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We are witnessing a political phenomenon with Barack Obama of rare magnitude. His speeches have inspired millions and yet most of his followers have no idea of what he stands for except platitudes of 'Change' or that he says he will be a 'Uniter.'

The power of speech from a charismatic person truly can be a powerful thing. Certainly Billy Graham had charisma and both his manner of speech and particularly the content changed millions. On the extreme other hand, the charisma of Adolph Hitler inspired millions and the results were catastrophic. Barack Obama certainly is no Hitler or a Billy Graham, but for many Americans out there feeling just like a surfer who might be ecstatic and euphoric while riding a tidal wave, the real story is what happens when it hits shore.

Just Some of What Defines Barack Obama:
He voted against banning partial birth abortion.
He voted no on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions.
Supports affirmative action in Colleges and Government.
In 2001 he questioned harsh penalties for drug dealing.
Says he will deal with street level drug dealing as minimum wage affair.
Admitted marijuana and cocaine use in high school and in college.
His religious convictions are very murky.
He is willing to meet with Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Kim Jung Il and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Has said that one of his first goals after being elected would be to have a conference with all Muslim nations.
Opposed the Patriot Act.
First bill he signed that was passed was campaign finance reform.
Voted No on prohibiting law suits against gun manufacturers.
Supports universal health-care.
Voted yes on providing habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees.
Supports granting driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.
Supports extending welfare to illegal immigrants.
Voted yes on comprehensive immigration reform.
Voted yes on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security.
Wants to make the minimum wage a 'living wage'.
Voted with Democratic Party 96 percent of 251 votes.
Is a big believer in the separation of church and state.
Opposed to any efforts to Privatize Social Security and instead supports increasing the amount of tax paid.
He voted No on repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax.
He voted No on repealing the 'Death' Tax.
He wants to raise the Capital Gains Tax.
Has repeatedly said the surge in Iraq has not succeeded.
He is ranked as the most liberal Senator in the Senate today and that takes some doing.

Bill Brown

SteveH
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05-10-2008 01:29 PM
 
 
Tintin
Veteran
Location: Akershus, Norway

What is WRONG with you???
If you are that dedicated, why not go into politics? They do let in the lesser intelligent so you might have a chance if you just hide that white hood....

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His religious convictions are very murky.
Wtf has that got to do with anything????????????????????

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Has repeatedly said the surge in Iraq has not succeeded.
Is there anyone that haven't seen that?

Why do you insist on proving you are retarded???

Supposedly a leftie :-)
05-10-2008 03:57 PM
 
 
Rotor
Key Veteran
Location: USA

TinTin,
I've said this many times before but it still holds true.

If you were 1% as smart as you think you are..you'd be something.

As it is...you're just a loser... sorry...that's the way it is.

We actually could not care less about what you think.

Keep your liberal stupid comments to yourself.

Every time you post one of your stupid comments it just points out how stuck on yourself you are. I bet if you could kiss yourself you would.

Just go away....we're tired of you...

My motto is this..Fly...Rebuild...Fly
05-10-2008 05:52 PM
 
 
3dfreya
Heliman
Location: Greenville,S.C.

Tintin...TROLL!!!!!
05-10-2008 05:56 PM
 
 
SteveH
rrProfessor
Location: Texas

Tintin seems to be a typical liberal...all he can do is attack the messenger rather than address the issues. It seems he's also not smart enough to actually read these posts to learn that I did not write them, which he acuses me of, but only passing them on.

SteveH
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05-10-2008 06:00 PM
 
 
Rotor
Key Veteran
Location: USA

3dfreya,
I agree with you but he or she or what .... is worse than that. It thinks it's smarter than all the rest of us.... worthless...troll...

My motto is this..Fly...Rebuild...Fly
05-10-2008 06:01 PM
 
 
Tintin
Veteran
Location: Akershus, Norway

Write?
Looked more like copy n paste to me.....

You're not here to debate Steve, you have absolutely no understanding for different points of view. That makes this just pure propaganda.

And it's the worst kind, you have absolutely nothing positive to contribute with. You solely focus on your copy n paste smear campaign.

You don't produce diddly squat of your own, you just copy'n paste whatever crap you find on the net.

You know what, I was buying apples this morning before I went flying. I had the choice between American and Argentinian, I must admit you guys have such a negative influence with your narrow minded ideas, you guys made me take the Argentinian...

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all he can do is attack the messenger rather than address the issues
And might I ask what you think you are doing with your smear campaign? Does seem to any half intelligent that you are a master at what you critizize others for..

And again I wonder. Is this a forum solely for dems? If you can vent your opinions freely, why am I not entitled to even if they deviate from yours? I thought that was what separated a dictatorship from whatever this is?

Supposedly a leftie :-)
05-10-2008 06:14 PM
 
 
SteveH
rrProfessor
Location: Texas

Tintin, oh I am so upset you did not buy American apples!

Please, feel free to post whatever you feel appropriate in a counter view, although I don't really see why it matters to you what takes place in American politics since you live in Norway.

If you have any negative facts about John McCain, please post them. The only thing I have ever heard negative about John McCain is that he is old. Well, yes he is older than lots of people, but just so you and everyone else knows, there is such a thing in America as age discrimination as well as race discrimination. They are both actually illegal, and if you would like to check back thru ALL of my posts, I have never said anything derogatory about anyone because of their race.

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05-10-2008 06:50 PM
 
 
Rotor
Key Veteran
Location: USA

Steve,
You and I and 99% of all others in this world are not smart enough to try and match wits with ole Tintin.. he's just too smart and just knows too much for our small brains. He's a TROLL...

My motto is this..Fly...Rebuild...Fly
05-10-2008 06:58 PM
 
 
Tintin
Veteran
Location: Akershus, Norway

That might be but you sure don't mind posting derogatory stuff in general, it's actually mostly what you do..

Why don't you concentrate on the positive sides of your candidate instead of throwing all that crp around you? Is there none?

Supposedly a leftie :-)
05-10-2008 07:21 PM
 
 
Rotor
Key Veteran
Location: USA

You are too smart for us TinTin. Go to a rocket scientist web site instead of RR. Of course they may not want Trolls there either..

Can you list for us once again your education and your IQ and all that stuff? I know you enjoy doing that.

My motto is this..Fly...Rebuild...Fly
05-10-2008 07:30 PM
 
 
SteveH
rrProfessor
Location: Texas

I've been reading back thru "Tintin's" posts, and I do believe he's a troll. No way he's from Norway. At a minimum, English is his first language....maybe he's an American liberal that moved to Norway. That would also explain his great interest in Amercan politics.

SteveH
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05-10-2008 09:41 PM
 
 
Mutt
Veteran
Location: t ca usa

05-10-2008 09:46 PM
 
 
Brovic777
Elite Veteran
Location: Los Angeles, CA

Man, I think I like Barak Obama alot more now Steve.

Thanks!!!!

I especially like this one:

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He is willing to meet with Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Kim Jung Il and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Hugo Chavez is my hero!!!!!

He has set a new standard for Latin America and will create a powerfull United Latin America that does not rely on the USA!!!!

You should be proud of him for this. Arn't you tired of 5 Billion of your Tax dollars being poured into Columbia each year?



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05-10-2008 09:47 PM
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SteveH
rrProfessor
Location: Texas

If that's what floats your boat, go for it, but I don't feel that way, and I would estimate that most sensible Americans would not feel that way either.

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05-10-2008 09:51 PM
 
 
Brovic777
Elite Veteran
Location: Los Angeles, CA

Remember, most American's cry about the illegal immigration issue.

Chavez and his Leftist supporters are trying to create countries that will keep their people there, and not want to flea to the USA.

At least he's trying to make it better.

Everybody else has failed thus far.

As for Obama, yea, I'm iffy on alot of his other issues.

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05-10-2008 09:54 PM
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Brovic777
Elite Veteran
Location: Los Angeles, CA

What I don't get is how Obama gets the most paid by the Healthcare Industry, yet wants top create a Universal Healthcare plan.

There's something very sneaky about his plan. I think he's gonna make the private healthcare industry even richer, by having the government pay for it. That is crazy.

Only way I go for universal healthcare, is get rid of the private.

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05-10-2008 09:57 PM
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Tintin
Veteran
Location: Akershus, Norway

Nice detective work Steve but I'm afraid the conclusion is wrong.

I appriciate the kind words. But I'm afraid I learnt my english from a Norwegian teacher who actually tought English in England before he started at our school, so I had a good teacher. And I make an effort unlike very many others here who should be a fair bit better at this than I am.

Did you know the word troll is actually a Norwegian word. Vi kaller dem også troll. Jeg må nok dessverre skuffe dere. Dere vil finne meg på flere andre fora under samme nick, og dessverre for dere så er jeg heil-norsk

Si je fais l'effort, je pouvais probablement vous moquer aussi en francais....

Eller på svenska om ni föredrar det....und vielleicht....well, enough

I'm afraid my interest in American politics (and in politics in general since they too often are more occupied with grabbing as much as they can rather than actually making a difference) is somewhat less than my interest in not letting idiocy remain unanswered. I believe in equilibrium so you nutters just need someone to protest against your unbeliveably narrow mindset.

Why would I want to go to a rocket scientist web site, closest I've been to rockets must be the satellite calculations I once did. Rockets doesn't interest me. Helis and weirdoes do...

Supposedly a leftie :-)
05-10-2008 09:59 PM
 
 
SteveH
rrProfessor
Location: Texas

OK, we're all so proud that you can speak many languages...now if you just had some common cense.....

SteveH
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05-10-2008 10:11 PM
 
 
Tintin
Veteran
Location: Akershus, Norway

There you go again, attacking the messenger......

Btw, it's spelled with an S, not C....

Supposedly a leftie :-)
05-10-2008 10:16 PM
 
 
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