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JR Heli Vibe - Airskipper - Sylphide - Venture > 600N Pro is gonna lose to the Vibe 50
 
 
dhc8guru
Heliman
Location: Texas

After building the Vibe 50 (first flight will be this weekend). I would have to say that the Trex 600n may have some stiff competition from the Vibe 50. As JR claims "Flips like a Trex tracks like a Vibe" so they must be going after the Trex.
The 600n Pro and the Vibe 50 are the same price but the Vibe is light years ahead of the 600N. Once RC Heli mag test fly's it, I am sure more potential 600N buyers may head over to JR. Thunder Tiger lost big to the 600N but at the time I didn't really find anyone building a machine comperable to it. Now I think more manufactures are catching up. I love my Trex 450, cheap to fly, inexpensive repairs. Everyone is copying the 450. But Trex is getting pricy. I have personally seen a 600N Pro and now that I have a Vibe 50, I am trying to figure out how Align is getting $600 for there bird, either JR is selling them cheap or Align is running fat.
05-09-2008 07:10 PM
 
 
tchavei
rrProfessor
Location: Portugal

Another one opened his eyes...


Welcome to the matrix

Tony


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"Perfection and patience usually walk side by side..."
05-09-2008 07:22 PM
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3Dx
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Location: Monterrey NL Mexico!

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Another one opened his eyes...

Yes Tony, you hade a nice vision from the beginning.

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I am trying to figure out how Align is getting $600 for there bird, either JR is selling them cheap or Align is running fat.

I think JR is making a HUGE EFFORT selling at $ 599 with this Quality.

On the other hand Align is making a fortune selling at $ 600.

Just my point of view...
05-09-2008 07:51 PM
 
 
tchavei
rrProfessor
Location: Portugal

Not for long

The close release of the Airskipper Type II only means one thing to me:

They're loosing money with the Vibe 50 so they get an alternative cheaper to make 50 sized bird and then up the price of the vibe to justify the expenses.

The second batch of vibes is already costing extra $40 in the UK and it will get worse.

Get it before the bubble bursts

Tony


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"Perfection and patience usually walk side by side..."
05-09-2008 07:58 PM
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Ron_Osinski
Senior Heliman
Location: Russellton, PA

Good you point that out...yes JR is making a huge effort. The Vibe Fifty is a "premium" machine at a competitive price.

I do hope many see the true value of this new heli.

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Best Regards,

Ron Osinski
aka - GMRO
05-09-2008 08:04 PM
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dhc8guru
Heliman
Location: Texas

Horizon is selling Airskippers at $550 and $599 for a Vibe 50...so there must be some kind of push on the Vibe to put the screws to other 50 class heli makers. I paid $579 from A-main hobbies for my vibe 50, a pretty good deal if you ask me. Helicopters are the only flying machine they make...so they should work at being top of the heap.
05-09-2008 08:46 PM
 
 
BarracudaHockey
rrMaster
Location: Orange Park FL

Works for me




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05-09-2008 08:46 PM
 
 
3Dx
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Location: Monterrey NL Mexico!

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first flight will be this weekend

Can we have the flight report????
05-13-2008 04:15 PM
 
 
BarracudaHockey
rrMaster
Location: Orange Park FL

Flys like a scalded dog. We had 15+ knot winds with gusts in the high 20s and it flew very well. Cyclic is fast but not insane with stock paddles, no weights. It did snakes, tail slides, and hurricanes with the stock tail blades.

We managed to whack the boom in a crappy auto when the fuel ran out during a collective push and the boom was totaled, the fin cracked and the blade chipped but the torque tube and gears were fine (much to my surprise)


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05-13-2008 04:20 PM
 
 
RobRoy
Key Veteran
Location: Huntsville, Alabama

How cheap are replacement parts compared to align though? Part of the attraction to the trex600 is repair costs are minimul in most cases.

Ignorance is curable, stupidity is for life.
05-13-2008 04:24 PM
 
 
RCHeliJim
Key Veteran
Location: Orem, UT USA

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How cheap are replacement parts compared to align though? Part of the attraction to the trex600 is repair costs are minimul in most cases.

I did a little looking at that and the Vibe 50 parts are about 30% more expensive, on average, across the board. Not too bad, unless you crash often



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05-13-2008 04:30 PM
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GScott
Key Veteran
Location: Lewis Center, OH

I don't recall a 30% difference. The only 2 that were really more expensive than the Trex were the main shaft and tailboom. Most were within a few dollars. The frames were about $4 more for the Vibe but the torque tube was about $5 cheaper and the TT gears were about $10 cheaper on the Vibe.
05-13-2008 04:43 PM
 
 
3Dx
rrAdvertiser
Location: Monterrey NL Mexico!

And don’t forget the frames; you can buy two Vibe frames for less than one single frame from a t-rex.
05-13-2008 04:52 PM
 
 
RCHeliJim
Key Veteran
Location: Orem, UT USA

It averaged out to 30%, but that was when I was comparing comparing the Trex G10 frame model prices since the Vibe uses G10 it seems more in line to me. With the Pro 600N, you are right - they are very close in the common spares, in some other parts they are not Anyway, like I said - the prices are quite good for a heli of JR quality. I have been putting Vibe 50s into online shopping carts for a couple of weeks now... Amazed that I have had the will power to not hit the checkout button... so far

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And don’t forget the frames; you can buy two Vibe frames for less than one single frame from a t-rex.

Not true if you compare apples to apples. The G10 Trex frame sides are about $10 cheaper then the G10 Vibe sides. But, I am sure the G10 JR uses is a little better quality



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05-13-2008 04:56 PM
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tchavei
rrProfessor
Location: Portugal

I don't think you can compare both helis in terms of price because crash resistance counts alot too.

For example, I crashed once hard with my 600N. Well not that hard but I had the unluck of piercing my right frame. For those who don't know, in europe, just the right carbon (1.6mm) frame costs $100. Man was I pissed. I also had to replace the tail output shaft because it bent on impact (tail blades were ok though) front plastic bed etc. All in all everything came out at $200.

Last week I was practicing pushover autos with my vibe and I screwed up one of them. Lets just say that the bird came in hard, broke the landing gear, bounced and slided over 10 feet through earth rocks and dirt. The canopy separated imediately on impact saving the frames and as a result I only bent the flybar, broke a tail blade and bent my 140ccpm linkages. Pretty cheap in my book

I must say I was shocked to find out that the front frame savers (that are also the bed frames) are cheaper than those two little g10 frame savers in the back. In my opinion its a robbery charging like $10 for 2 flimsy small frame savers. The least they could do is to offer 2 sets or something like that.

I could make a set myself (I have G10 plates) but just thinking of the mess I rather bought some new ones. However, next time I'm going to make some myself. I wish my CNC would be better or I would mass produce them and sell them at cost+labour. Doing the math, they shouldn't cost more than $1-$2 to make.

Tony


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"Perfection and patience usually walk side by side..."
05-13-2008 05:09 PM
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BarracudaHockey
rrMaster
Location: Orange Park FL

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Not true if you compare apples to apples. The G10 Trex frame sides are about $10 cheaper then the G10 Vibe sides. But, I am sure the G10 JR uses is a little better quality

Indeed, first they are thicker, second there are break away tabs where the canopy mounts that cost about 3 bucks if you break them.


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http://www.jaxrc.com
05-13-2008 05:22 PM
 
 
DS 8717
rrProfessor
Location: JAX,FLORIDA

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But, I am sure the G10 JR uses is a little better quality

A little better quality,how about a lot better quality. The Vibe G10 frames are stiffer than the 600 carbon frames.

JRYSOSXLEVO600VIBEAURORAMAN
05-13-2008 07:10 PM
 
 
RCHeliJim
Key Veteran
Location: Orem, UT USA

Dude, changed your name again I see, always have people jumping, hehe

I am sure they are stiffer than the Align 600 carbon frames, hard not to be



Go Fly, Have Fun!!
-Team Quick UK
-Team RCHeliMag
05-13-2008 07:17 PM
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DS 8717
rrProfessor
Location: JAX,FLORIDA

I'm not cheerleading,i have the 600 and the Vibe. Facts,just the facts.

JRYSOSXLEVO600VIBEAURORAMAN
05-13-2008 07:24 PM
 
 
tchavei
rrProfessor
Location: Portugal

yep. Definitely better. I also have both so I'm entitled to bad mouth the 600n rotfl

Tony


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"Perfection and patience usually walk side by side..."
05-13-2008 07:36 PM
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