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JR Heli Vibe - Airskipper - Sylphide - Venture > Soon to be new Vibe 50 owner
 
 
hovernut
Senior Heliman
Location: Fraser Mi

Well I just ordered a new Vibe 50 myself, hopefully it should be here next week. I can't wait, I'm like a kid at Christmass.

Is there anything I should look for during the build, I read about some people having problems with the canopy mounts breaking.

the setup I am thinking about is

Hyper 50
3 x 8717 cyclic
JR 770 3D gyro w/8900 servo
Fut 9252 for throttle
Duralite rx pack
Scott Grey Reactor regulator.
JR Spectrum receiver

anybody with a simular setup have any feed back?

Thanks

Tony V
05-08-2008 12:49 PM
 
 
inkspot1967
Elite Veteran
Location: cranston ri.

thats going to be a sweet setup, throw on some radix600sb's and a atg v3 and hold on brother it's gonna be a wild ride.

im looking into a vibe50 myself

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Rave mini-g
WENZEL CANOPYS
05-08-2008 03:17 PM
 
 
BarracudaHockey
rrMaster
Location: Orange Park FL

Watch the washout arms you really need to put the ball in then screw the ball into the swash. They either did a grip flip, or just used the 90s so the small side of the hole goes over the ball and some people have cracked them putting them together.

And the tail pitch slider is reverse threaded, you'll be there a while if you try to thread it together like most of the rest of the helis.


AMA 77227
http://www.jaxrc.com
05-08-2008 03:31 PM
 
 
DS 8717
rrProfessor
Location: JAX,FLORIDA

The washout arms are from the Vibe 90,it has trailing blade grips and thats why there are backwards on the 50. The complete tailrotor hub and grips are from the 90 also so you dont long blades there,90 or 85mm are fine.

JRYSOSXLEVO600VIBEAURORAMAN
05-08-2008 03:50 PM
 
 
tchavei
rrProfessor
Location: Portugal

Definitely stay away from 95mm tail blades if you have a good gyro. Mechanical gain is through the roof so the gyro will have a very low gain.

Like already mentioned, Radix SBs are wonderful but you should take care doing acrobatic autos with them.

Get a pair of V paddles for a good compromise between agility and tracking (14.3gr) or if you're into hard 3D in a confined space, superstubz will give you mind blowing cyclics (12.9gr)

Tony


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"Perfection and patience usually walk side by side..."
05-08-2008 07:38 PM
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dhc8guru
Heliman
Location: Texas

I am building mine and have found a couple of useful tips to pass on.

1.
On page 11 they have you install the tail pinion assy into the frame. Skip this until you come to assembling the the rest of the tail. Assemble driveshaft into the pinion and then install the driveshaft into the boom then install the completed tail assembly. The only reason I suggest this is because the driveshaft is a tight fit into the drive dog and its difficult to install with the pinion assy installed on the frame. Also they tell you to use green locktight to keep the tail driveshaft intermediate bearing in place..I advise using a small drop of CA instead. It can be removed later using CA disolver if you need to replace the bearing. I tried High strength thread locker and it doesn't hold the bearing once you try to install it in the tail boom. Since the offset of the bearing on the shaft is critical to avoid harmonic vibration, threadlocker will breakdown and flake away possably allowing the bearing to move internally. This may not be likely but I don't want to be the one to find out.

2. Pay close attention to the screw sizes -8, -10 and -12 are all very similar looking so use the screw charts to verify the size before installing.

3. You will definitely need a ball link sizer and install plyers.
JR ball links are a real tight fit and this is probably why people are breaking the washout ball links.

4. Keep the three bearing blocks loose until you are installing the mainshaft, if you don't you may find the shaft doesn't line up with the blocks tightened down.

5. There is no clarity on page 9 as to which end to install first on the autorotation assembly. If you get this backwards, the oneway bearing will work opposite of normal. The end with the larger radius and machined sides on the end faces up....or atleast this appears to be correct, after I got everything together it appears to function properly.

6. Pay close attention to the all area's relating to lever arm and head assembly... Like on page 14 they give lever arm positions for both 120° and 140° eCCPM mixing and the arms have two different spacers depending on which head geometry you are using.

7. Someone else made mention of paying attention to which side the frames are to be assembled..this proved to be a very useful tip.

8. On page 20 I couldn't tell whether the frame spacer on the rear landing skid support went with the front hole or back and I was informed in a prior posting that it goes in the back hole.

As I move on through the rest of the build, I will post anything else I run into.
05-08-2008 09:07 PM
 
 
BarracudaHockey
rrMaster
Location: Orange Park FL

Quote 
3. You will definitely need a ball link sizer and install plyers.
JR ball links are a real tight fit and this is probably why people are breaking the washout ball links.

They are unidirectional, the problem is, the small side goes towards the inside because they borrowed them from a 90 which is built the other way around.


AMA 77227
http://www.jaxrc.com
05-08-2008 09:09 PM
 
 
DS 8717
rrProfessor
Location: JAX,FLORIDA

Yes but they are still tight and if you use the tool it wont break if you size it and install small side first.

JRYSOSXLEVO600VIBEAURORAMAN
05-08-2008 09:12 PM
 
 
dhc8guru
Heliman
Location: Texas

I just followed the instructions (5 pages after the fact)stating "JR Propo" faces outwards. So its the ball link screw breaking off in the swashplate, is that the problem, I was having a hardtime understanding exactly what was breaking off.
05-08-2008 09:22 PM
 
 
DS 8717
rrProfessor
Location: JAX,FLORIDA

The link on the mixing arm that attaches to the swashplate,the problem is link is too tight for the ball and it goes on backwards so the small side goes on first.

JRYSOSXLEVO600VIBEAURORAMAN
05-08-2008 09:27 PM
 
 
hovernut
Senior Heliman
Location: Fraser Mi

thanks for all the tips, keep them comming.
I was thinking about rotor tech blades 600s for the mains and 85's for the tail. As far as paddles, how are the stock ones? do they have removeable weights and if so should I remove them or leave them in. I have the Stubs on my evo 50 and they were actually to touchy for my flying style and I had to add weights to calm it down a bit.

Thanks

Tony V
05-09-2008 12:44 AM
 
 
tchavei
rrProfessor
Location: Portugal

Quote 
I have the Stubs on my evo 50 and they were actually to touchy for my flying style

Sounds like me. V paddles are 1.2gr heavier than the superstubz but have a bigger airfoil so tracking is greatly improoved. I tried both and Vs suit me better.

Carefull with the rotortechs 600s those are not the same as the 610 3D rotortechs. They are much slower on cylics I was told (no first hand experience though).

Currently I'm using Radix SBs and I love them very much. I do miss the hangtime by stock radix give me, especially during acrobatic autos with push overs

Tony


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"Perfection and patience usually walk side by side..."
05-09-2008 01:32 AM
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dhc8guru
Heliman
Location: Texas

The stock paddles are a bit of a disapointment, don't know how they fly, I am sure they are fine. They are a hollow two piece design, the main body and then an endcap, you slide the weights in the main body and then put the endcap on. They are kind of cheezy compared to the rest of the stellar components on the Heli. I promply ordered some V-blade paddles once I saw the ones in the kit.
05-09-2008 04:09 PM
 
 
BarracudaHockey
rrMaster
Location: Orange Park FL

They fly fine, this is the same design that Hirobo has been using for years. What you see as cheesy others see as the ability to tweak performance without buying new paddles.


AMA 77227
http://www.jaxrc.com
05-09-2008 04:44 PM
 
 
DS 8717
rrProfessor
Location: JAX,FLORIDA

The stock paddles without the weights work very good,they are plenty fast.

JRYSOSXLEVO600VIBEAURORAMAN
05-09-2008 05:14 PM
 
 
inkspot1967
Elite Veteran
Location: cranston ri.

paddles are for wimps anyway......lol


just kidding guys....

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Rave mini-g
WENZEL CANOPYS
05-09-2008 08:47 PM
 
 
nicholasdugas
Veteran
Location: new iberia Louisiana

i like getting paddled

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05-09-2008 08:59 PM
 
 
inkspot1967
Elite Veteran
Location: cranston ri.

by tea bags right.......

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Rave mini-g
WENZEL CANOPYS
05-09-2008 09:00 PM
 
 
audio131
Senior Heliman
Location: swansea , mass , usa

hi

hey inky ,i'll let you try my vibe 50 , if i can try your flybarless 600n,,,joe

"LOWER LOOKS BETTER"
05-09-2008 10:20 PM
 
 
inkspot1967
Elite Veteran
Location: cranston ri.

cool deal when did you get a vibe50?

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Rave mini-g
WENZEL CANOPYS
05-09-2008 10:26 PM
 
 
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