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Stet
Elite Veteran
Location: Long Beach CA

"Barack Obama likened Hillary Rodham Clinton to President Bush for threatening to "totally obliterate" Iran"

Yeah, he sure wouldn't want to seem like the warmonger Bush, he would rather ENCOURAGE our enemies to do whatever they like. After all, he will meet with them because if he does, of course peace will break out like a field of wildflowers, because it is really so simple and Bush (or the EU or UN) just don't get it.

About time someone says it like it is. If Iran attacks Isreal with a nuke, guess what, Iran ceases to exist. And that will be the end of our problem since Iran is really the singular source of Mideast state sponsored terrorism with their clients Hezbollah, Hamas and Sadyr.

About time someone had the gonads (and she doesn't even have any of the male type) to state the obvious to these Iranian psychos.

I hope the Iranian people lynch the Mullas before this insanity goes too far.

I used to prefer Obama over Clinton. But the more I hear from this elitist phoney, the more I am willing to prefer the shadow of the corrupt and inept Clinton legacy over his undefined but always PC approach to world politics. I got a kick out of her interview with OReielly, I got more of an idea who she is than all the empty stump speeches.


Ok, bring on the famous RR anti-semite to respond !! You know who you are.

keepin' it real
05-05-2008 07:00 AM
 
 
DaveYost
Veteran
Location: San Diego Ca, USA

I am not a big Hillary fan, but I must admit, she handled the Bill o'Rilly interview like a pro.

They don't call them Clintion Inc. for nothing.

She was very well prepared for that interview.

Dave

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05-05-2008 07:05 AM
 
 
LouInSD
Veteran
Location: San Diego CA USA

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he would rather ENCOURAGE our enemies to do whatever they like.

GAWD I'm so sick of simpleton either-or thinking...that's what got us into this mess in the first place...

America has had enough of your right wing claptrap so save your false dichotomies for the truly dumb people (the 25% who still support your fuhrer) who after 8 years of failure still dont get it, and never will...
05-05-2008 07:16 AM
 
 
DaveYost
Veteran
Location: San Diego Ca, USA

Dang Lou, shoot'en from the hip tonight, both barrels a blazin!



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05-05-2008 07:22 AM
 
 
LouInSD
Veteran
Location: San Diego CA USA

Bam Bam! LOL
05-05-2008 07:25 AM
 
 
Rob_T
Elite Veteran
Location: Tualatin, OR - USA

Israel should not be America's fight anymore than if, say, China flexes it's muscle in Tibet. Israel is a nuclear power (arguably with the help of the US but that is just strong speculation), they have an advanced tech industry and seem to have been able to do a thorough job of expanding their boundaries well beyond those established by the UN in 1947.

If it is anti Semite to say let a nuclear power fight it's own wars, then bring it on...


Rob
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05-05-2008 07:47 AM
 
 
Tintin
Veteran
Location: Akershus, Norway

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If Iran attacks Iran with a nuke, guess what, Iran ceases to exist.

Huh, why don't ya make up your mind ?

So true :
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.that's what got us into this mess in the first place...

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because it is really so simple and Bush (or the EU or UN) just don't get it.

It's always simple for a one track mind, or should I say 1 thought mind....

Anyone with half a brain would be able to spot the fact that new enemies are created as you go along the path you follow today so unless you choose a different one you will at least never be without one...

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05-05-2008 12:20 PM
 
 
dick smith
Senior Heliman
Location: perth

Nuke em all .. the middle east is a waste of space, isreal included.....Offence is the best defence.........
05-05-2008 01:07 PM
 
 
Tintin
Veteran
Location: Akershus, Norway

Hmm, the brits had a better solution a while back. They sent all they didn't want down under....

You certainly live up to your name....

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05-05-2008 01:19 PM
 
 
Pistol_Pete
Elite Veteran
Location: Tampa Bay non-Buccaneer

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About time someone says it like it is. If Iran attacks Iran with a nuke, guess what, Iran ceases to exist. And that will be the end of our problem since Iran is really the singular source of Mideast state sponsored terrorism with their clients Hezbollah, Hamas and Sadyr.

and you really believe this?

then read the following...


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Anyone with half a brain would be able to spot the fact that new enemies are created as you go along the path you follow today so unless you choose a different one you will at least never be without one

read and weep...the unfortunate truth is that this is going to be the longest war ever.

<><>...the lunatic is in my head...<><>
05-05-2008 01:30 PM
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Tintin
Veteran
Location: Akershus, Norway

Yup, hard to put out a fire with a flame thrower....

I know some Iranians are slightly bushminded, well ok triggerhappy if you like that expression better, but that thay would consider nuking themselves? Even I wouldn't thiuk they'd go to such extremes to create more fanatics

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05-05-2008 01:38 PM
 
 
HelividD
Heliman
Location: Auburn Hills, MI, USA

Yes, but at the same time, if you consider yourself better than others and "constantly" seek an enemies, there are enough loonies out to always take you up on the fight.

The most important thing with the Bush and almost every other republican regime is that they really do "seem" to believe the theory that you start a war, and money flows. Unfortunately, with the global enconomy this is no longer the case. And as we see now in our "mini vietnam" it has done nothing but aid in brigning our country to a shimmer and whimper. Instead of shipping the billions over there, they could have invested 1/10th in our country and everyone could have flourished and probably not been in the situation were are. But that is as usual too much like right, and now, we are in a recession.

And even more importantly 8 years ago, idiots were obsessed with someone having oral sex and deeming this important enough to run our nation into the ground by selecting the dork that we have in office now. Don't get me wrong, he is certainly entertaining(has been since day one with what he says and how people fall for it), but then again, a monkey in the zoo is entertaining, but I don't want them for president.

I was one of the people that when they came up with the WMD crap that, in all honesty, I cried. I also was greatly upset when the senators agreed to give our president in his "wisdom" the power they did. Now it is easy for us to sit and speculate "enemies popping from out of holes in the walls",war and blah blah, but people are "dead!" over this. Not fighting for freedom because in all honesty, USA still needs to get its own freedoms together 100% before they start that "freedom" crap anywhere else and also those people are no more free and stable than they were the day troops set foot on the sand. Yes, things are better but in a sense they are not on a much larger scale.

Besides, good lord, Bush lied or he is incompetent in that he assigned a cabinet that then assigned individuals that produced incorrect information! Whether it was his cabinet, him personally or his VP, he is the leader and his responsibility! The information was wrong(or was just an outright lie)! Support the troops yes, but at the same time, give them the ultimate support and get them out of harms way(or oh... lets think for a second proactively... lets try to not bully or be warmongers and maybe, maybe... we would not have to get our troops out of harms way in the first place). Then again, this has become such a mess that this cannot be done either. All at the hands of our "ultimate protecting" right wing based government that is entangled in all sorts of "illicit activities" involving corruption..

It is the 21st century and it amazes me that people still believe the government "at face value" but then again, it is easier to "not see" than to see in some circumstances.

I only hope for "all americans" that they get the repubs out of the oval so we can get back to a little stability economically, possibly get our troops out of there "eventually" (as most that are in support of this war don't wish to acknowledge, that area and the terrorists, finatics, etc live to die! They don't care who or how many people they take with them. So in all honesty, this is simply like throwing nitro on a flame..)

The most important thing at this moment however is the economy and improving it...

However, this is a heli forum! Good flying to all(both sides of the carpet)....

Man.... I had no idea what an addiction this was going to be.....
05-05-2008 01:54 PM
 
 
Pistol_Pete
Elite Veteran
Location: Tampa Bay non-Buccaneer

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I only hope for "all americans" that they get the repubs out of the oval so we can get back to a little stability economically


damm...it was good reading until the above part.


divide et impera strikes again!

<><>...the lunatic is in my head...<><>
05-05-2008 02:01 PM
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kingair
Veteran
Location: Ivins, Utah - USA

Seems to me like the country has really taken a turn for the worse only since the democrat idiots took control on congress.

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
05-05-2008 02:20 PM
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Tintin
Veteran
Location: Akershus, Norway

I'd settle for idiots in stead of reps.

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05-05-2008 02:28 PM
 
 
kingair
Veteran
Location: Ivins, Utah - USA

Tintin,

What do they call smart people in Norway?






- Tourists!

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
05-05-2008 02:32 PM
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HelividD
Heliman
Location: Auburn Hills, MI, USA

Pete: LOL I had to throw it in there... But to be honest, your right(have to self review and check sometimes). With that to be honest, it's on both sides... The funny thing is that I thought the best idea I ever heard as far as politics are concerned, was four years ago was John Kerry when he asked John McCain to run with him(and no, it didn't matter to me who ran as pres or vice)! I was really excited about that prospect but it didn't go anywhere. That is honestly IMO what is needed.. To join the best of both worlds for balance.

Those two could truly have done some things as far as bringing both sides to the table and getting over the "majority/minority" thing not only in the oval but in congress. Then, there would have been I think prosperity for "all". Yes, the rich would have gotten richer(which is enivitable), but the average joe could have and would have gotten some also... Its about balance, and right now, it's just not there.

But it will never happen because there are too many power hungry individuals on both sides. I still as a skeptical as I am hold out some "eutopian" hope that one day we as a people(all colors and genders) can get it right.

Man.... I had no idea what an addiction this was going to be.....
05-05-2008 02:36 PM
 
 
Tintin
Veteran
Location: Akershus, Norway

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What do they call smart people in Norway?

Ouch, that hurt, we might do that of course however very seldom call them am.. tourists we far from always call the politicians that, that's for sure. People with an agenda are seldom able to see things in a bigger perspective it seems...

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05-05-2008 02:54 PM
 
 
Stet
Elite Veteran
Location: Long Beach CA

Mistype corrected

Creating enemies? Which enemies have been created that have not been there all along?

"GAWD I'm so sick of simpleton either-or thinking...that's what got us into this mess in the first place..."

And when was the mess of Iran / Hezbollah / Hamas created exactly?

Oh yeah, during Carter.

"(the 25% who still support your fuhrer)"

Keep in mind, even less support the democratic congress. Keep encouraging our enemies Lou.

keepin' it real
05-05-2008 04:11 PM
 
 
Stet
Elite Veteran
Location: Long Beach CA

Let's list some of our friends in the region

Isreal
Jordan
Egypt
UAE
Quatar
Kuwait
Iraq
Afghanistan
Saudi Arabia

Let's list the enemies
Syria
Hezbollah
Alqueda

Has the list changed recently due to our actions, or are the friends glad we are taking on the biggest threats to their existence?

keepin' it real
05-05-2008 04:34 PM
 
 
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