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e-Electric General Discussion > Cypher 3d Pictch help....
 
 
MiniHeli
Heliman
Location: L.A. Cal/L.V. Nevada

Well my cypher 3d build was going really smoothly until I was having trouble with my pitch. I set the pitch in the swash mixing menu to a number that is less then 60% so I could achieve 11-/+. Every time I check the pitch at the highest point, it would read 11 or 10.5 it keeps changing, the servos don't fluctuate so im assuming I don't know how to properly use the pitch gauge correctly. I have the align micro pitch gauge. And I make sure the seesaw thing is leveled and I put the pitch gauge ad close as I can to the head. Then I look really really really close to make sure its completely leveled to the fly bar.

Heres how I set up my heli. Did I do something wrong or skip a step?

1. I centered servos in idle up 2 with 50% pitch curve at mid stick. Also had zero trim and zero sub trim. The servos were centered perfectly, had to use a little sub trim to get it leveled.

2. leveled the swash plate using the T-rex swash leveling tool (t-rex main shaft and the shaft of the cypher are the same width). I had a little bit of problem with this. I would level the swash to almost perfect level at mid stick. Then I moved the swash up wards to see if my swash was still leveled. The pitch servo was lagging behind abit. So I would I leveled it on high pitch. Then when I went low the same problem happened so I choose a level that was close enough. It wasn't major it was just a little bit off.

3.I set up the max pitch range by going to the swash mixing menu and increasing the pitch function to 100%. I moved the stick its lowest position and it still had room to go, i pushed it all the way up and it was binding. I lowered all the three cyclic links down a bit and lowered the pitch function in the mixing menu. I finally got it to a point where the swash was just touching the pins at high stick and where the swash just touch the bearing block.

4. I leveled the lower mixing arms and the uppers and leveled the paddles

5. I switched the transmitter to idle up 2 with 50% or 0 deggres at mid stick. I used the pitch gauge to have the pitch at mid stick at 0 deggres.

THanks
05-05-2008 03:33 AM
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Jetleaf
Heliman
Location: Concord, N.C. - U.S.A.

Maybe your problem is that you used the T-Rex swash leveler? Just because the main shaft is the same diameter as the T-rex main shaft doesn't mean that the swash height for zero pitch is the same.
05-07-2008 03:38 AM
 
 
MiniHeli
Heliman
Location: L.A. Cal/L.V. Nevada

"Maybe your problem is that you used the T-Rex swash leveler? Just because the main shaft is the same diameter as the T-rex main shaft doesn't mean that the swash height for zero pitch is the same."

Hi.

But the swash tool is just meant to level the swash plate and not helping me find the maximum pitch range to find the center point for zero deggres? right?
05-07-2008 08:09 AM
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MiniHeli
Heliman
Location: L.A. Cal/L.V. Nevada

I have school so im not having much time to work on my heli, but I still need to try to use the pitch gauge right before I do anything else. Ive been putting the pitch gauge 4/5th of the way on the blade. I saw a video and he said I should put it far away from the head.
05-07-2008 08:13 AM
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Jetleaf
Heliman
Location: Concord, N.C. - U.S.A.

Yes the swash tool is meant to level the swash but level it at a given height 10mm I think. So you have to adjust the swash linkages untill you get it level at 10mm which is zero pitch on a T-Rex head. The cypher swash has screws that protrude from the bottom of the base by 2mm, so if you use the T-rex leveler then you have set your swash to 12mm unless you are using a different type of leveler than I am thinking about.
05-08-2008 01:56 AM
 
 
HiroboEric
Veteran
Location: Los Angeles, CA.

Hey MiniHeli, if you would like to meet me at the field in LA 405/101 I would love to get your Cypher worked out so you can finally start having some fun with it.

AirWorksRC.com
05-08-2008 07:11 AM
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MiniHeli
Heliman
Location: L.A. Cal/L.V. Nevada

Hi HiroboEric , thanks for the offer, you seem like a nice guy and all, its just I really feel like I need to build, setup and fly my helicopter with as little assistance as posible. I may get things wrong and its probably not a wise decision to make but its sort of a learning process thing.

Again thanks for offering to help me and helping me on runryder

Sammy
05-11-2008 07:42 PM
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HiroboEric
Veteran
Location: Los Angeles, CA.

Your welcome good luck with it in any case. She's a fantastic helicopter when all is in line to work correctly.

AirWorksRC.com
05-12-2008 05:08 AM
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