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jimco
Senior Heliman
Location: east texas

Damn Ron, Im mesmerised again. Your brilliance has just amased me , again.
Could you tell us where all this brilliance comes from,. You seem to have an answer for all the questions that are being asked on RR.
I am totally amazed that you never stumble.
Im interested in knowing why the price of fuel is soo high. Then the price of groceries at the store. and the price of seeds for the farmers,
And why we subsidize Israel, annually, for 3 billion bucks.
And why we are in Iraq. And why we are in Afghanistan.
And why the US government allowed the biggets Monopoly in the History of the US, to Take place, IE, Exxon/Mobile.
And why Clinton, repealed the Glas/Steagal act. allowing banks to once again speculate in the stock and securities market. Why Bush is not bound to go to Congress, to declare war on another country.
Why the Constitution of the United States, is called A "Goddamned Piece of Paper", by the president of the United States. ???
Just a few answers would be a good starting point.
With your vast knowledge, Im sure you can answer these trivial questions , in short order.
Thanks, Jimco.

Honey, where's the check book, it's Fedex again
05-03-2008 04:05 AM
 
 
darrens
Key Veteran
Location: United Kingdom

Hey 1stPlace, no need for that at all, for you have already demonstrated to the forum what an undereducated moron you are, it's just plain dumb to reinforce it further. Surely you have had enough embarassment so far with all you bwahahaha sh*t over something that you knew nothing of. I still can't believe you dumb asses didn't know about Italy.....I'll be laughing at you for a long time over that one pal.

He who dies with the most toys is the winner!
05-03-2008 09:42 AM
 
 
1stPlace
Senior Heliman
Location: Ohio USA




Hat man dir mal ins Gehirn geschissen und vergessen umzuruhren?
05-03-2008 11:58 AM
 
 
webbhost
Key Veteran
Location: england - Leicester

The middle finger... is that what you have been reduced to? I'm sure with you being a very very intelligent american you can come up with better than that.... Hmm im not too sure the words intelligent and american work well together.. maybe I should remove one of them)

meh
05-03-2008 02:30 PM
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krav
Heliman
Location: Portsmouth - UK

I'm sure us Brits remember the old chant...

"Two World Wars, One World Cup"

Well we can now modify it to include a few more things since the Rugby world cup...

"Two World Wars, Two World Cups and One RR Debate"

The difference between a genius and a fool is that a genius has limitations.
05-03-2008 02:41 PM
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darrens
Key Veteran
Location: United Kingdom

Krav....very funny

I think the middle finger is what he had stuck up his ass while the rest of the world noticed that Italy changed sides!!!!!!!!!!!

Stupid is as stupid does. When it comes to being stupid, an idiot, undereducated, a moron and obnoxious, this guy really does know how to finish in 1stPlace

He who dies with the most toys is the winner!
05-03-2008 02:49 PM
 
 
Dilbeck
Veteran
Location: Springdale Arkansas

Come on guys lets not start bashing Americans because of 1 persons views.

If it doesn't fly sell it!
05-03-2008 03:13 PM
 
 
krav
Heliman
Location: Portsmouth - UK

Not bashing anyone, I have the right to defend myself and my country from any attacks, verbal, physical other otherwise.

The thing about debates is that when someone starts to lose the mind clams up and they revert back to more primative means. Why do people swear? 'Cos they can't think of the correct words to use

As far as I'm concerned, any comments from myself are said purely with out prejudice to anyone, from where ever they may be. And in return I hope I get the same treatment... not always the case though

The difference between a genius and a fool is that a genius has limitations.
05-03-2008 03:22 PM
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RonHill
Veteran
Location: ..

jimco

If you are going to look for a fight...Look somewhere else.

But I'll play this round in the hopes that you pay attention and are not just looking for a fight.

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Im interested in knowing why the price of fuel is soo high. Then the price of groceries at the store. and the price of seeds for the farmers

It is called a free market economy. The price of fuel rises, then the cost of everything else is going to have to rise to compensate. The economy will ALWAYS seek an equilibrium.

I realize that answer will not work for you since I don't blame anything on the Illuminati.

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And why we subsidize Israel, annually, for 3 billion bucks

The answer is they have always been a friend of the US and we don't just abandon our friends. They are surrounded by people that have promised to wipe them off the face of the Earth.

Now, I don't necessarily *agree* with everything we do for them. But I don't think we should just step aside and let them be destroyed. Lets not forget that region has nukes.

Again..since I don't blame anything on a vast conspiracy....Well, I doubt anything I say will appease you.

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And why we are in Iraq.

Saddam was reported to have WMD's. Every candidate running in this election thought he had them. The Congress voted to approve force.

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And why we are in Afghanistan.

Bin Laden and AQ had strong holds there. Both had been carrying out attacks on against the US for years.

Again....Since I don't blame Zionists pulling the strings of the American public....You will not agree.

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And why the US government allowed the biggets Monopoly in the History of the US, to Take place, IE, Exxon/Mobile.

Simple...It is NOT a monopoly if there are other companies in the same business per the economic definition.

Monopoly in conspiracy theory speak is anything you don't like, do not understand, and cannot control.

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And why Clinton, repealed the Glas/Steagal act. allowing banks to once again speculate in the stock and securities market.

He faced political pressure, and did it to make the banks happy.

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Why Bush is not bound to go to Congress, to declare war on another country.

Congress did authorize the use of force in both cases....And in fact continues to support it with the budget.

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Why the Constitution of the United States, is called A "Goddamned Piece of Paper", by the president of the United States. ???

For the same reason that a flag is a piece of fabric. The spirit of the item is not the item.

It was a dumb political move...But considering the BS stuff that the public concerns itself over...I am not surprised at all that this kind of petty BS is "news".

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With your vast knowledge, Im sure you can answer these trivial questions , in short order.

Yeah, those were easy...Although not as easy as not bothering to try and understand the complexity of the economy, politics and human nature.

It is SO much easier to just blame a vast conspiracy that no one can prove exists and use the proof that you can't find them as evidence that they control everything.

Your type likes to blame everything on one simple thing so you don't have to bother to spend anytime with multiple topics.

Jimco....How about for you I just give you the answer you want:

The Jews did it to control everything and are working on World domination.
05-03-2008 03:26 PM
 
 
Dilbeck
Veteran
Location: Springdale Arkansas

Sorry Krav, I was referring to Webbhost, (Hmm I'm not sure the words intelligent and American work well together.) Totally uncalled for!!!!!!

If it doesn't fly sell it!
05-03-2008 03:32 PM
 
 
1stPlace
Senior Heliman
Location: Ohio USA

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Why do people swear? 'Cos they can't think of the correct words to use

Krav, I have no problem with you. I actually think you are a very intelligent and good man. It's the other three cocked up pillocks in here that I don't like!

I swear at them, not because I don't know the proper words to use, but to troll the American bashing elitist snobs on this forum. They are ignorant, arrogant closed minded American hating bigots. F' em!

Hat man dir mal ins Gehirn geschissen und vergessen umzuruhren?
05-03-2008 03:51 PM
 
 
krav
Heliman
Location: Portsmouth - UK

For me personally I think this topic has run its course.

I'll read what has been posted but I'll not be contributing as we could go on throwing crap at each other for the next millennium and we still wouldn't resolve anything... or bring down the price of fuel

So, good luck to all you guys who are unlucky enough to be out on deployment in areas where you shouldn't have to be.

As for the rest of you... PLAY NICE !

The difference between a genius and a fool is that a genius has limitations.
05-03-2008 05:31 PM
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darrens
Key Veteran
Location: United Kingdom

Yeah,

I'm done with it too now....I exposed the idiots who claimed false glory, so my work here is done

He who dies with the most toys is the winner!
05-03-2008 10:00 PM
 
 
Big Pockets
Senior Heliman
Location: Pasadena, MD

why does exxon profit keep growing? in farness you would think they would make the same profit on a $2.00 gallon of gas then rasing the price to 2.50 the should make the same profit. right?
05-10-2008 04:38 AM
 
 
Inspector Fuzz
Veteran
Location: My own private Idaho.

Profit?

Their profit is based on a percentage of the cost of raw materials. Exxon lost money for many years and may be doomed to extinction with the current trend of countrys around the world to nationalize oil production.
JEFF

Argue for your limitations and sure enough, they're yours
05-10-2008 04:54 AM
 
 
RonHill
Veteran
Location: ..

Big Pockets

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why does exxon profit keep growing? in farness you would think they would make the same profit on a $2.00 gallon of gas then rasing the price to 2.50 the should make the same profit. right?

You are not alone. The thing is 'profit' and 'gross margin' really are not the same thing although many confuse the two.

Gross margin is how much made per unit after the expenses are paid. When the raw materials, or the cost to produce the product rises you can either reduce the margin, or raise the price to keep the margin the same. BTW, oil companies are making about a 7-8% ROI...Financials and computer companies do better.

Profit is really 'return'. Margin multiplied by velocity equals return. Velocity is how fast you can go from raw materials to cash in hand for the final product.

Oil hit 126 today...That means that to keep the margin, gas prices will have to increase.

Now the oil companies are recording record profits. But that is due to volume, not margin.

Long story short....It costs more to make gas than it did a year ago and the margin is not enough to be able to absorb it. When you consider that oil companies are going to have to invest more and more to stay in business, the margin is already starting to shrink. Add in that alternatives to oil WILL happen once the cost of a gallon of gas hurts enough...Well, the oil companies will need to find other sources of income.
05-10-2008 05:34 AM
 
 
Rogue123
Key Veteran
Location: Phoenix AZ

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/2008050...ce_080509195335


Welcome to the global economy
05-10-2008 09:02 AM
 
 
Big Pockets
Senior Heliman
Location: Pasadena, MD

what happens with all that money exxon is making? or do i want to know
05-10-2008 02:52 PM
 
 
Rob_T
Elite Veteran
Location: Tualatin, OR - USA

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Now the oil companies are recording record profits. But that is due to volume, not margin.

We shall see soon. Volume peaked last November and has been down since (source USA Today 5/9). If Exxon manages another record quarter we will know it's not due to volume.


Rob
Eco8, Piccolo Fun, Shogun, HB Elite CP, Trex 450XL CDE, Swift
05-10-2008 10:40 PM
 
 
webbhost
Key Veteran
Location: england - Leicester

lol Dilbeck, dont worry about that comment it was somewhat "tongue in cheek", and particually pointed to 1stplace. Afterall, I do have american friends, some of which are much more intelligent and have better jobs than I will ever have.


I too will not be participating in this thread any longer.. not alot of point.

meh
05-22-2008 11:08 AM
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