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Main Discussion > Helis vs. Planks at the field!
 
 
guile_99703
Senior Heliman
Location: Springvale, Maine - U.S.

I had flown airplanes years ago and just starting with helicopters, so being a newb my perspective may not amount to much, but it is my opinion that regardless what you are flying, it is your reproducibility to plan your flightpath and insure that it is safe and free of unwanted obstacles. The faster you are moving, the greater the margin of error you need to plan for..

I think alot of people forget that when they are flying that the rest of the world does not remain stationary.. You have to constantly plan and adjust your flight path biased on what is going on that very moment (not what was going on the last time you looked there)

I will equate flight with shooting a firearm right now to prove a point. If your target is near anything you would not like to shoot.. wait for a better shot.. Do not risk something going wrong because you did not allow for a reasonable margin of error.. There are new opportunity's presented every moment, so be patient and observant, you will get your chance..

And with an airplane or helicopter there are so many ways to amuse yourself while you wait for the room, or proper circumstances to try out that maneuver (whatever it is)
04-27-2008 05:33 PM
 
 
Nitro_Hawk1
Heliman
Location: sudbury, ontario Canada

helis vs planks at field?

i for one was a plankhead , now getting into helis (nitro Side of em), i am gratefull that there are fields for flying in that are sanctioned. as for this debate goin on about pulling over to a field wide open, i must say this. its a dumbass idea. it would be like me a newb heli flyer goin to my local park wich has 3 different fields big enough to fly in , with a dozen or so people nearby. and its city owned...... it is tresspassing either way you look at it. unless of course i had permission wich i dont. its the same thing with my boat club...wich i own. i wanted to run at ramsey lake but that is classed as an airport, next best thing i found was a small lake to wich 1 house is on it and noone around. all fine and dandy TRESSPASSING IS TRESSPASSING. WETHER POSTED OR NOT OR FENCES AROUND IT OR NOT.... SOMEONE OWNS THOSE FIELDS!

I REJECT YOUR REALITY AND SUBSTITUTE MY OWN!
04-27-2008 06:17 PM
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speeddemon370
Veteran
Location: Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada

Oh nitrohawk you're so smart. So smart in fact that you obviously considered crown land. Multi use terrain that is legitimate for any and all offroad vehicles, rc hobbies, hikeing, camping, etc etc. As long as you're being respectful to the terrain and not littering it's pretty much free reign. We have 100's of thousands of square kilometers of this stuff in Canada. Many of our highways and road systems go through a large section of it every 50 to 100km. I guess since I'm such a dumbass and your not you already considered this and somehow devised a way to b!?#h about it. You're right, no matter what the property does belong to somebody down the line. Not everybody thinks flying a heli above thier land is the end of the world.

Just let it die. Dumbass.

with 2 ears and 1 mouth you should listen twice as much as you talk
04-27-2008 06:38 PM
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Nitro_Hawk1
Heliman
Location: sudbury, ontario Canada

heli vs plank at field

dude if read my post i was not considering anything at all... i siad it would be like me goin to the local park, you dumb smuck. if you wanna take a chance and fly over someones fields then do it. hope they aint sitting there with a shotgun to blow your heli away for doin it.... i think you better re-read the post.

I REJECT YOUR REALITY AND SUBSTITUTE MY OWN!
04-27-2008 07:59 PM
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speeddemon370
Veteran
Location: Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada

I give up. You guys are missing out on alot of nice flying areas.

with 2 ears and 1 mouth you should listen twice as much as you talk
04-27-2008 08:08 PM
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TachyonDriver
Veteran
Location: Chipping, Lancs, UK

Wow - six pages of heated landowner discussion.

Nitro Hawk I reckon that your signature should be changed to "I reject your REALTY and substitute my own

I'm lucky that I can go fly on the football (soccer to you guys across the Atlantic) field - well its the size of two soccer fields actually, near the back of my house. The local kids are great - either not interested or will stand behind me as per my instruction. Local dog owners who choose to walk their dogs on the field are great also.

I also fly on a field on an industrial estate. The field's going to get built on soon - North West Water have signs that say no public access and yet there's usually half a dozen young lads tearing across the field on moto X bikes (I wait my turn!), not to mention dog walkers using the field as a short cut to a pulbic footpath that runs along its far side. I guess you might call it an illegal form of common land from the amount of use it is getting. I've been flying there on and off for over a year now.

So yes, I am trespassing, but the land is not owned by a private individual or cooperative of farmers, just a big bad, faceless utility corporation - no harm done and if a representative ever comes up and asks me to leave then I will.

Now, I would NOT wantonly trespass on Farmer Giles' land, because that is HIS land and thus I would ask for his permission.

Lesser of two evils..don't make it right I know, but hopefully you get what I mean.

Tach.

Little Spinning Bundle of Joy®
04-27-2008 08:59 PM
 
 
SwingWings
Heliman
Location: USA

Tom Bass Park Houston Heli club being taken over by plankers...

Here is a sad turn of events taking place now in Houston out at Tom Bass Park. This is the field where Ron Kyle died in an accident several years ago.

Read the clubs minutes from the past several months...a heli club losing it's grip.

Could use some pro heli comments on the www.houstonheli.com site if you guys here have the time.
04-27-2008 10:39 PM
 
 
madman22
Senior Heliman
Location: Alexandria Louisiana

wow all this and it was about planes versus helis at the field. some folks just cant let stuff go. my question is this. i love runryder,i really do . years ago when i was fresh in this hobby i could log on and get insight ful and ,get this, INTELLIGENT, info. now it seems that in probably 60 percent of the topics it always end up with a few guys throwing piles at one another. i just wish thatthings could go back to the way they used to be. cmon guys cant we all just get along, kumbayagh ,and that blasphemy?

how far away can it get? oh that far huh?
04-28-2008 04:27 AM
 
 
vsnyder8
Veteran
Location: Ft Wayne, IN

I kind of feel that flying heli's and flying planks are not the same, it may not be a good idea to share a runway. I think they can share a clubhouse and have runways on opposite sides but not fly in the same airspace.

This is my reasoning. Airplanes fly patterns, going forward all the time, sometimes very fast forward. Heli's tend to stay in a small area, usually much smaller then planks, with heli's we go all directions, and make sudden stops etc.

We share the same ideas and find watching both vehicles fly but other then that they are not the same. I think it would be a good idea to have a RC car/truck area between the airfields. Theirs is a similar sport, (radios, servos, bl motors, etc). We could all fly/drive/watch and have a good time.

One big happy family. (More dues money to work with)
04-28-2008 11:56 AM
 
 
TwistedrotoR12
Senior Heliman
Location: Wichita ks

red rx.,
i see where you guys are comming from. Im just saying that in my 15 year old opinion , just let the people fly where they want. if they get in to trouble, let them. they apperently dont want to listen to your warnings. some people just have to go through the conciquences to realize its bad. if they fly on your land , then you tell them whats up.
and what i meant i think people should fly where they want too... i meant we.. as in all you guys.. just worry about ourselves. if they want to be stupid and be arrested,,let them. you cant say you didnt warn them.

<Clearviewfield.com>
04-28-2008 02:33 PM
 
 
BarracudaHockey
rrMaster
Location: Orange Park FL

Quote 
This is my reasoning. Airplanes fly patterns, going forward all the time, sometimes very fast forward. Heli's tend to stay in a small area, usually much smaller then planks, with heli's we go all directions, and make sudden stops etc.

So whats the difference between flying a heli or a 3d foamie, or this half scale monster for that matter, hovering over the runway?




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04-28-2008 03:38 PM
 
 
m34life
Senior Heliman
Location: Bury St. Edmunds, UK

LOL at all of you.

The above post courtesy of you tax dollars hard at work. Enjoy.
04-28-2008 06:54 PM
 
 
guile_99703
Senior Heliman
Location: Springvale, Maine - U.S.

I know this is going to lessen my popularity around here, but I too have noticed that intelligent insightful conversation has become a lost art.

I blame politics, I know that it sounds odd but politics dictate educational standards, and heavily influence media which in turn dictates public opinion thereby setting social standards.

Politicians know that if too many people become intelligent enough to apreciate this vicious circle, there is a chance of it becoming disrupted (an idea that career politicians are not keen on).

So politicians want us to be stupid, and the vast majority of people are more than willing to accommodate because after all it takes far less effort to be stupid..

Society has trained us to become upset and lash out whenever we do not understand something, to despise anyone more intelligent than ourselves, and above all else never admit ignorance.
Making for a society full of ignorant, close minded, angry individuals (which is just perfect for governments and politicians that have more interest in their individual wealth and authority than the happiness, health, and prosperity of the people they are supposed to represent).

We are essentially just domestic blind sheep following greedy narcissistic Sheppard's leading us to the slaughter for their own individual gain (while enjoying their sadistic power trips, having dictated to us the terms of our existences up to that point)

So being intelligent and insightful are quality's only valuable to the intelligent and insightful to start with. With the people in possession of those quality's in steady decline (as it is not the social standard) anyone possessing those quality's are freaks and deservingly subject to the criticisms of the "normal" (ignorant, close minded, and angry) masses.
04-28-2008 08:52 PM
 
 
vsnyder8
Veteran
Location: Ft Wayne, IN

guile_99703, what were you smoking when you wrote that, lol, that was quite a rant.

BarracudaHockey, I stand corrected, where would those things fly, they are planes but they fly like heli's. I guess it comes back to patients and taking turns, and enjoying the day while watching others fly.

That is the advantage of multiple minds and democracy, no one person can or should make decisions regarding others without their input.
04-29-2008 12:45 AM
 
 
guile_99703
Senior Heliman
Location: Springvale, Maine - U.S.

vsnyder8:

Believe it or not, I don't smoke anymore, and I wasn't drinking at the time...

You should hear me go on about freedom of religion or the right to bear arms.. (I'm independent so both liberal and conservative issues are fare game)

But on a more serious note, we really should try to be a little more civilized in our discussions.
I am sure we can all respect different sides of many arguments. Offer a perspective for others to consider and let them choose for themselves what they are going to believe.

You can't force someone to agree with you but you might be able to entice them into a change of mind if you are respectful and offer perspectives that is well thought out..
04-29-2008 01:13 AM
 
 
madman22
Senior Heliman
Location: Alexandria Louisiana

guile got it. i guess the only one though?

how far away can it get? oh that far huh?
04-29-2008 02:51 AM
 
 
guile_99703
Senior Heliman
Location: Springvale, Maine - U.S.

Hi madman22, I guess the only one of what?

I apologize, I am horrible about trying to be clear on things, if I see much room for misunderstanding I tend to try and explore, and gain a better understanding.
04-29-2008 04:01 AM
 
 
Igor-sik-corski
Heliman
Location: Hopatcong, NJ- U.S.A.

just sayin

I wonder who owns the land I fly over in G3.5??? Maybe Bill Gates will be sitting there with his xtml shotgun ready to blow my code embedded raptor 90 out of the digital sky.

just my 2 pennies
05-03-2008 04:57 PM
 
 
bradpowers
New Heliman
Location: Needham, MA - United States

Igor, Bill doesn't have an xtml shotgun. It's a .NET shotgun.
05-08-2008 05:00 AM
 
 
kenb
Heliman
Location: cloquet, minnesota carlton

Farmers field

A farmers field is his yard. You must get permission before doing anything in someone elses yard! Kenb
05-08-2008 03:05 PM
 
 
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