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Main Discussion > Helis vs. Planks at the field!
 
 
RadioFlyerMk
Senior Heliman
Location: Trenton, Ohio,

speeddemon...I can shed a little light on why we like to fly at club fields, at least for me. Safety for one, anything can happen. If I am alone and get hurt for some reason, nice to have someone there. But more than that, I like being able to bounce ideas off a fellow heli pilot, maybe setup questions or maybe just talk about the latest gadgets. At my field we all seem to get along very well though. In fact, I have had more trouble flying planes. I had my space and I was doing some 3D and some little cheap electrics decided to invade that space. They soon got the idea that we can share and they moved on. I have yet to have any heli trouble. The only thing that worries me is we have a section of the field that runs north and south, while the "flight pattern" runs east and west. So at the east end, we have to be cautious and try to time it so we fly over there after they pass by. There was a couple of close calls but nothing too bad and no one got upset. Heli's can fly from the runway if they enter a flight pattern, but we don't usually do that unless we are among a small group in which case, we all just take turns and spend most of the time talking. So the friendships make the club flying great. Heck, when we have a heli fly in, we have plane pilots come out just to watch.

The only thing about a club, is like anything else, there is going to be a couple of jerks...but they seem to be disliked equally by heli and plane guys.

Visit a club, you will probably like it. Another great thing is we tend to urge each other to try new things, so the flying improves. Plus, you get to see new moves you may wanna try.

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"I'd rather hover a Heli......than fly a plane"
04-25-2008 07:04 AM
 
 
BarracudaHockey
rrMaster
Location: Orange Park FL

Helis on one runway, planes on the other. Problem solved




AMA 77227
http://www.jaxrc.com
04-25-2008 01:42 PM
 
 
Cowjock
Senior Heliman
Location: Collegeville, Pa.

Speeddemon370

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Why not just go to a farmers field and let er rip?

What gives you the right to go on to a farmers property?
For one you better be prepared to be chased by the owner if you don't have permission to be there. Are you prepared to pay the vet bills for an amimal if your machine hits one? Or replace the animal if its killed? What about crop damage? This is very real.

I've had more trouble with trespassers since everybody wants "open space" and "trails". I have come to hate "the open space and trail" idea. It makes people think that they can go any where they want to. Private property is PRIVATE PROPTERTY!!!

Damn that ground is hard!
04-25-2008 01:56 PM
 
 
Mutt
Veteran
Location: t ca usa

Yep some people have no clue as to what that sign means private property no tresspassing. I have had to hase out more idiots then I care to think of. I have even had to hold some down while waiting for the cops. I even had them tell me I have permission to be here by the owner hmm funny I dont know you never seen you nor would I give you permission to be on my property lol. Cowjock some people just dont have a clue.
04-25-2008 02:00 PM
 
 
BarracudaHockey
rrMaster
Location: Orange Park FL

Maybe he meant he knew a farmer and had permission to fly there??


AMA 77227
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04-25-2008 02:09 PM
 
 
Cowjock
Senior Heliman
Location: Collegeville, Pa.

Mutt-I've had no trespassing signs torn down, fences cut, crops damaged, I even had a mobile home dumped on the property,... And like you, they have permission from the owner to be there, that really shows how stupid some people are. I even had "pot"plants planted in my cornfields. The police were called for that,they estimated the street sale of the pot that they pulled out to be about 500k!!! What is this world comming to?

Damn that ground is hard!
04-25-2008 02:23 PM
 
 
Mutt
Veteran
Location: t ca usa

cars trucks furniture dead animals discarded boats condoms you name it find it all. even caught 2 guys trying to break into my shop said they had permission to work on thier car by the owner lol that one was funny. They swore up and down to the police I was not the owner of the property lolol.
04-25-2008 02:38 PM
 
 
speeddemon370
Veteran
Location: Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada

For starters I spent everything except the last 8 years of my life on a farm with 240head of cattle and 11 full sections. So I think I have a pretty good idea of what goes on there and also what farmers would allow on thier property. You know because planting pot and breaking into sheds are the same as pulling over into a ditch and flying your heli in a field. Whatever you say smart guy. If there is barbed wire and no trespassing signs well then don't go there brainiac. But I guess I have to make the distinction for some of you who think it's the same. Also some of you seem to think that a field is the same as a pasture. Yeah, cause thats what I wanna do is kick up cow s#!? with my tail rotor. Most importantly of all you could take it out of context and assume that I was using the term "farmers field" generally in such a way that refers to an open piece of land in which you wouldn't be intruding on anybody and not be intruded on yourself.

You guys really need to go (edit) become intimate and spend some quality time to take a load off with (end edit) your sheep or cow or whatever. You're sure wound a little tight this morning!

It was a simple question and I meant no offense. Why do some people prefer to go to a field with distractions, interference and a constant battle for air superiority while others prefer to go to an OPEN PIECE OF MULTI USE LAND THAT IS CURRENTLY UNOCCUPIED BY HUMANS AND LIVESTOCK ON WHICH YOU CAN OCCUPY AND FLY YOUR MODEL ROTATING WING OR FIXED WING AIRCRAFT FOR SHORT DURATIONS OF TIME?

And people wonder why we need lawyers

with 2 ears and 1 mouth you should listen twice as much as you talk
04-25-2008 02:55 PM
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Mutt
Veteran
Location: t ca usa

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OPEN PIECE OF MULTI USE LAND THAT IS CURRENTLY UNOCCUPIED BY HUMANS AND LIVESTOCK
It is still owned by someone and if you dont have permission it is not right. Same mentality same thing and you may go and screw your own sheep or cow thank you I have a fantasic wife to take care of me.
04-25-2008 03:02 PM
 
 
speeddemon370
Veteran
Location: Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada

So basically you're trying to tell me that the laws in the US prohibit any and all model operation anywhere but the flying field or your own private property? There is absolutely nowhere else that you're allowed to fly?

Thanks for your post radioflyer. That is what I was wondering.

with 2 ears and 1 mouth you should listen twice as much as you talk
04-25-2008 03:16 PM
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Mutt
Veteran
Location: t ca usa

Just because a piece of land is not posted or shows signs of ownership i.e. house barn livestock does not mean it is not owned by someone and just because it is not posted does not give anyone the right to tresspass upon said property. Can a person fly on BLM property? maybe a person would have to check into what thier rules are for that area. Some BLM land you cant tresspass on some you can some you can ride dirt bikes etc some you cant a person would have to check out that specific area. As far as going along and just pulling into a ditch as you say and flying over a farmers property is called tresspasing if you do not have permission to fly there and its attitudes like yours that cause property owners like me shut off any and all access to thier land. I used to allow a kid to ride his dirt bike on my land he started inviting his friends and they thiers well guess what its closed off now why? becasue I am not gonna take on any liablity for these kids if they get hurt. They also did not have my permission to ride there one did the rest didnt but becasue of what the one did inviting his buddys and they invited theres the kid lost all rights to be on my land. I have allowed one guy to fly on my place untill he hit the shop. Not even a I am sorry and offer to help with repairs nope you dont have permission you have no right to tresspass on others land dont know or care what the laws are in canada but I will bet dollars to donuts that property owners there feel the same way. I do know the people I am friends with in BC wont allow others on thier land and there is no homes or farm animals there.
04-25-2008 03:25 PM
 
 
Igor-sik-corski
Heliman
Location: Hopatcong, NJ- U.S.A.

HOLY COW!!!!!

No pun but dont have a cow man!!!!

The ama now offers a park flyer membership, Public parks, school yards, State parks, use your discretion.

If you fly small electric park flyers or smaller heli's, fine a public park, but private property, we have a local horse farm next to a few soccer fields, growing up my dad would take me there to fly. The irony of this story is great, i was flying a huge styro mig used for target practice in the air force, I was turning to do a low pass when I heard the shot and saw a puff of foam come off the plane.

YES, he shot the plane put bird shot through the wing and fuse, landed it ok thought about it and never flew there again!!

The noise was making his horses tear up the stables, We dont all fly for a hobby and we should use our BRAINS to decide what and when and where we are going to fly!!
04-25-2008 03:33 PM
 
 
tadawson
Key Veteran
Location: Lewisville, TX

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Why do some people prefer to go to a field with distractions, interference and a constant battle for air superiority

Perhaps because I have never been to, or been a member of, a club that was like that? Because I enjoy having a workbench, shelter, run-in stand, and electricity in case I need to work on something? Real parking and a potty are nice too . . .

- Tim
04-25-2008 03:45 PM
 
 
BarracudaHockey
rrMaster
Location: Orange Park FL

I live 7 miles from two acceptable fields but drive 24 miles because my buds all fly there and its a great faclility.


AMA 77227
http://www.jaxrc.com
04-25-2008 03:49 PM
 
 
Mutt
Veteran
Location: t ca usa

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The ama now offers a park flyer membership, Public parks, school yards, State parks, use your discretion.
Here where I live if you fly in a park or on school grounds you will get in some trouble with the police. All the parks and schools are posted no flying or cars or boats allowed. Reasons simple newbies taking a plane or a heli out and hitting people or cars others making to much noise them nitro cars and trucks make a lot of racket and people just dont want to hear it. Not all people like or endorse our hobbys like these. Thing is if a person would ask a property owner they may find they will get permission and maybe even a small area they cay fly at.
04-25-2008 03:52 PM
 
 
speeddemon370
Veteran
Location: Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada

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property owners there feel the same way
I am a property owner and I do not agree with you.

You can keep whining about your trespassing thing. That's not what I meant. You can keep reverting back to people behaving badly on your property. I don't really care that has nothing to do with the question. Like I said if you need to vent go visit your sheep.
Whether you admit it or not there are other places to fly. You keep whining about your farm. I'm going to keep discussing flying locations.

For example. I have verbal permission from the city of spruce grove to fly in an area that is currently under developement. There is a field about the size of a quarter section that has basically just been graded. A big pile of clay right in the middle of it about 50ft high is my fav flying spot. I never go when there are workers (which is never a problem on weekends) and it's not disturbing anybody or making the farmers whine. All it took was a phone call and I have a whole quarter to fly on by myself! In fact the lady on the phone sounded amused that I even took the time to phone. She said in the future not to worry about it so much and go fly. Point is, there are other places to legitimately fly and not every property owner is a grumpy tight wad. Has anyone else explored any in thier area? Ideas for new places?

I like this one because that extra 50ft has saved me from ALOT of crashes. I know everyone says to start a couple mistakes high but it gets to the point (for me anyways) that if you're going to get high enough to correct every potential problem it's hard to see the heli and you create an extra set of problems.

I just couldn't resist. Way to perpetuate the stereotype that farmers are closed minded and complain about anything when given the chance. You make us all proud!

with 2 ears and 1 mouth you should listen twice as much as you talk
04-25-2008 03:54 PM
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Mutt
Veteran
Location: t ca usa

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I have verbal permission from the city
See now your contridicting yourself now you have permission that is not the same as pulling over and flying at a property owners field.

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Like I said if you need to vent go visit your sheep.
You really need to visit a shrink and get your farm animal fetish worked out.


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You can keep whining about your trespassing thing
Not whining stating facts.

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I am a property owner and I do not agree with you.
Thats good I am glad you dont. Maybe I should come up and run my tractor or quads all over your property without your permission.

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I just couldn't resist. Way to perpetuate the stereotype that farmers are closed minded and complain about anything when given the chance. You make us all proud!
Nope your wrong on that in all aspects and you sir are a real dork for thinking that. YOUR statement was in the beginning to just pull over and fly anywheres and you have defended it so YOUR the one chaning now. You have also said yo have pernissions now at these other places thats great and the way it should be but to just tell someone to pull over in a ditch (your words) and fly at a field is wrong without asking property owners permission. So you can stop trying to turn it around and make it look like I am changing things when Your the one that started the crap by your statement and then being a total ass when a couple of property owners told you that we dont allow it or like tresspassing.

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I am a property owner
If you are why do you need permission and seek out other places to fly? I call bs on your statement. This is my last post on this issue as I am done wasting my time with a idiot that has a sheep fetish.
04-25-2008 04:02 PM
 
 
Wingman77
Key Veteran
Location: Pulaski TN US

cowjock, did you get the punishment for the pot?
04-25-2008 04:14 PM
 
 
Topher
Veteran
Location: Grosse Ile, Michigan

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If you are why do you need permission and seek out other places to fly?

I was wondering the same thing. There are lots of farm fields around me but I dont fly on them even though its extremely tempting. I wouldnt want some jerk like myself flying his heli on my land without my permission so I show a little courtesy. Its hard for me to find places to fly to since every field around me is always occupied by hippies.

Get a life? How the hell do you fly a life?
04-25-2008 04:19 PM
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Mutt
Veteran
Location: t ca usa

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I wouldnt want some jerk like myself flying his heli on my land without my permission so I show a little courtesy.
exactly
04-25-2008 04:21 PM
 
 
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