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Main Discussion > TREX 600N or 600E?
 
 
holzback
Senior Heliman
Location: Terre Haute IN United States

i noticed when the 600n came out i did not see szabo flying the e nearly as much
04-24-2008 03:07 AM
 
 
michael88997
Veteran
Location: northern texas, us

szabo flys what he is paid 2 fly... if your going to fly what he flys by choise than buy a raptor 90... but you still wont be able 2 fly like szabo ...


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hurricane 550
04-24-2008 03:14 AM
 
 
RappyTappy
Elite Veteran
Location: Las Vegas, NV

yep, pretty weak and boring to fly

in case you want to watch some more boring stuff
http://www.helistore.at/vids/Logo500-Max_30-03-2008.mov
04-24-2008 04:38 AM
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Carey
Senior Heliman
Location: Allentown, NJ U.S.

Who said electrics are weak and boring?

I say they are more 'sterile' looking with no smoke stream and screaming motor to be sure though.

My friend has a 6s 600e that I fly regularly. It's anemic in comparison but of course he can throw more voltage at it, for a premium. It's nice to have when we are park flying though. Cant get away with the screamers there.

Daniel kills it on the Mikados, but they need more smoke and noise!
04-24-2008 05:07 AM
 
 
4eye
Senior Heliman
Location: Honolulu

Man! At least the "boringness" was only limited to 4 minutes. Don't know if I could have stayed awake any longer.
04-24-2008 07:14 AM
 
 
stefan simmons
Heliman
Location: england (uk) walsall

if i were you id get a t-rex 600n. there great,
easy to keep on top of, the bits are cheap and there plenty of blingy bits to stick on.
mine flys awsome with a thunder tiger redline 53 engine in it with mp5.


stefan simmons

my dads good but im out to get him.....big thanks to flight power / climbout / csm and king cobra
04-24-2008 07:29 AM
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naked painter
Senior Heliman
Location: Mid glamorgan uk

I fly both nitro and electric and found that the electric opened up more local flying opportunities due to the lack of engine noise.

I found that there isn't really much in between them running cost wise. It's just the initial hurdle of having to fork out for flights upfront that took some getting used to.
04-24-2008 10:11 AM
 
 
macsgrafs
Senior Heliman
Location: Barnstaple, Devon, UK

I have flown both nitro & electric. I prefer electric any day, I can fly anywhere, drive along in the car, heli, a few batteries & TX, find a nice spot, jump out the car & fly without that screaming nitro..YUCH!!! I don't fly 3D & get about 8 mins general sport/ scale aerobatic flying from my $130 5000mah 6S pack. So whoever told you $300 is really having a laugh, I can get 2 packs for that & postage from dear old H.K.

The price of li-pos is falling all the time, yet fuel prices will continue to increase. New technology for batteries is just around the corner, where a li-po will give you 10x the standard duration....imagine 1 battery giving over 1 hour of flight..it's in the pipeline my friend.

The choice is yours...how much do you want to cart about???
Look at this photo, note my back pack which holds my TX & my batteries:-


Regards
Ross

Seems to me that ALL heli's beat the air into submission
04-24-2008 10:39 AM
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Topher
Veteran
Location: Grosse Ile, Michigan

What technology is going to give 10x the energy density than lipos and still be safe and affordable? Thats a pretty tall order.

Get a life? How the hell do you fly a life?
04-24-2008 05:54 PM
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RappyTappy
Elite Veteran
Location: Las Vegas, NV

It is not to say it won't be a impossibility, in reality this is the days of the model T electric and battery power. With the world seemingly going anti-gas, there is a lot lot lot of money being thrown into electric battery technology.

Chris
Rex 500 A123 Power

Forever Brothers
Mickey Tylo
04-24-2008 06:34 PM
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Topher
Veteran
Location: Grosse Ile, Michigan

Ill agree with that but most of our helis dont run on gas, they run on methonal. A substance with a signifigantly larger amount of enthalpy than gasoline. And as much tech thats going into batt technology, theres even more going into hydrogen.

Get a life? How the hell do you fly a life?
04-24-2008 07:20 PM
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Dave M
Senior Heliman
Location: Mi.

HHHMMM.... A hydrogen heli....now theres something to consider.

It's OK....It's not your fault !!!
04-24-2008 07:35 PM
 
 
macsgrafs
Senior Heliman
Location: Barnstaple, Devon, UK

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What technology is going to give 10x the energy density than lipos and still be safe and affordable? Thats a pretty tall order.

Get a life? How the hell do you fly a life?

I read this a few months ago on the BBC website, seems they are working on getting laptops to last 10 hours+ instead of 1.5 hours, so if their lipo can remain the same size but give 10x the duration, believe me it IS comming. It's something to do with carbon binding in the cells, li-po's were first invented in the early 1900's but they didn't have the technology until quite recently to actually mass produce them in such small sizes.

Ross

Seems to me that ALL heli's beat the air into submission
04-24-2008 08:38 PM
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Topher
Veteran
Location: Grosse Ile, Michigan

People have been claiming to produce 10+ hour laptop batteries for the past 20 years, so far no one has delivered. I remember when the nano carbon tube was discovered it was suppose to lead to batteries the size of a quarter that could power a laptop for days. My point is, a lot of people make a lot of claims. However it isnt always for the best interest of technology but actually for funding.

Get a life? How the hell do you fly a life?
04-24-2008 09:18 PM
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snobdrs
Senior Heliman
Location: coatesville,pa-usa

heck when lipos or whatever gives me an hour of flight time, can charge in half that, dont blow up, and dont cost an arm and a leg ill be the first to switch. Id be happy with 30 mins flight time, bring the cost down, and make em durable.
Till then ill take the 20 mins flight time i get on a tank of nitro.

Support your local hobby shop
04-24-2008 09:50 PM
 
 
Deom
Heliman
Location: Guadalajara, Jalisco.

Nitro or electric!!!??? That's a question that will be debated for ever!! why? because it depends on personal taste and opinion, as well as convenience and available resources.

I'm a mechanical engineer, so I have a nitro heli because I enjoy the sound and smell of a piston going up and down 16000 times each minute, it gives me headaches but I like setting up the carburetor and asking myself why it does this or that.
A nitro heli will ask for a little more attention, you have to clean it and I like this as it allows me to spend some time with the heli (sounds crazy but my Hawk Pro even has a name! ja ja!) and look for loose bolts, damage, strange stuff or whatever. So if you have a passion for mechanics you should definitely go Nitro is just more fun. Anyway, this is a hobby right? you should do it because you like to do it.

Regarding where to fly, if it is a big heli you need big space, so what they say around, that you can fly an electric heli anywhere is just not true. It would be true for micro helis or T-rex but anyway I don't fly those "small" electric helis with people around because their blades still turn fast.

I bought my Hawk 2 months ago, my first heli was an electric micro (honey bee FP) as it was small and I could fly it anywhere, charging times were a nightmare but not that much since I could do other stuff meanwhile at home as I flew on a nearby park, but I didn't saw myself waiting on the flying field (far away from home) for my big heli's battery to charge and get two flights a day... You will learn faster if you fly more, believe me, there's nothing more frustrating that seriously wanting to fly and having to wait hours for a battery to charge...

Anyway, what other people (including me) says about Nitro or Electric could be helpful but at the end you will have to make the decision, so you will have to picture yourself on a typical flying day with and electric and a typical flying day with a nitro, because I think that decision depends on several factors that only you know (where do you fly, what do you like, who you fly with, the resources you have...etc)

Good luck!!!

David.

If a problem has a solution then why worry, and if it doesn't have any.... then why worry!
04-24-2008 10:09 PM
 
 
RappyTappy
Elite Veteran
Location: Las Vegas, NV

I could see it now, " I crashed today because my heli just blew up into flames" which will be dubbed the hindenburg heli, lol.

Chris
Rex 500 A123 Power

Forever Brothers
Mickey Tylo
04-24-2008 11:02 PM
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