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Scale Model RC Helicopters > Century Bell 222 (funkey) 50 Build Thread
 
 
steph280
Key Veteran
Location: Irvine, California

You must be applying a lot of force to break those bellcranks. They are pretty beefy.

I ended up using 3 Hitec HS225 servos, two of them (front/right) going to a channel via Y-harness, and one going to another channel by itself. This way the left servo can be reversed. Then I used the servo delay function on TX to slow it down. Works pretty good.
04-17-2008 04:36 PM
 
 
gadgetdude
Senior Heliman
Location: Southern California

I think they are just very brittle. The first one broke when I attached my servos for the first time and switched on the power. The servo jerked and broke it. The second one broke trying to get the ball link off. Those things are on so tight it is maddening. I tried your suggestion of gripping them with pliers and form them to the ball. It helped, but ever so slightly. Last night I went to the LHS and bought some ball links because I was going to convert them to regular ball link pushrods. I get home thinking that I would use the existing push rods that came with the kit and just swap the ball links. NOPE, not that easy Should have known it was not that easy! What was I thinking

So far this is what I have had in UNPLANNED costs to get this project to work (this excludes the fuselage, helicopter mechanics, Retracts, retract servos, etc):
-Replacement servo. $30
Originally bought 3 HS 225BB's. One stripped when I first plugged it in. Went to the hobby store to get gears, none. Ended up buying a HS 225MG.
-Torque Tube Conversion for the 600E. $100
-The time to fabricate new bell cranks. $Priceless
-Ball Servo Arms and links. $10


I know what you are all saying, 'Just part of the hobby'. I agree, I just needed to vent for a second.

I am including some photos of my install of the wooden supports glued in the fuse. I used an old bottom support as the guide. I did have to Dremel a little off the boom end to account for the fuselage curve.

Also pictured are my fabricated bell cranks. I just used an existing JR servo horn. I dremeled out the center to adapt to the existing attachment. Then I used a rubber washer and a metal washer to compensate for the extra room from the servo horn to the top of the c clamp. In the red circle you can see where the first bell crank broke and I tried to Super Glue it. It seemed pretty strong but it broke again pretty easy.

04-17-2008 07:56 PM
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gadgetdude
Senior Heliman
Location: Southern California

steph280,
What radio are you using that you were able to slow the servos down? As you can read, most of us doing this build had to resort to buying the GoSlow from Jomar Electronics.
04-17-2008 07:59 PM
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steph280
Key Veteran
Location: Irvine, California

14MZ. I know the 9Z also has this feature.
04-17-2008 08:44 PM
 
 
gadgetdude
Senior Heliman
Location: Southern California

Well i am stuck on my retract install. Two of them work fairly smoothly, the other one jerks as it goes up and down. I think I have narrowed the problem down to the servo ball attachments being to tight. I have tried everything I can to get them to loosen.

I am going to convert them over to a standard Trex 600 ball and link setup. That should help.

The other issue is that I cannot get the front retract servo ever to just turn off. It is always running. By the time I adjust the servo travel to get it to turn off, the rear wheels are sticking just below the fuselage. I take it I need to go in and fine tune the arm length, correct? It is a real pain to have to keep installing then uninstalling etc
04-21-2008 11:48 PM
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doorman
Elite Veteran
Location: E.Berne, NY

Retract Adjustments...

Depending on how close you are to the correct linkage and arm lengths, you can make some fine adjustment on the actuator arm on the retract unit itself by screwing it in or out.... do not over tighten it though as it will stop any movement.... Hope this bit of info will help you out.... the build is looking real nice.....

Stan

If there is a cure for this, please don't tell me about it!!!
04-22-2008 12:37 AM
 
 
gadgetdude
Senior Heliman
Location: Southern California

Some updated photos. These are my home made cable cutters!

04-22-2008 04:19 AM
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tauscnc
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Location: IL : www.cuttingedgecnc.c om

Man those wire cutters look GREAT!!!!! Niceeeeeeeeeeee

taus
04-22-2008 02:28 PM
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GrantL
Senior Heliman
Location: Springfield, MA

Very Nice Job.. They look great!

Grant
04-22-2008 03:19 PM
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gadgetdude
Senior Heliman
Location: Southern California

Thanks for the compliments

I still have to do the support rod for each of the cutters on the bottom. I am going to start fabricating wipers and antennas this weekend.

TAUS-how is the cockpit coming along on yours and the paint?
04-22-2008 03:42 PM
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gadgetdude
Senior Heliman
Location: Southern California

Maiden Flight today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I was not confident enough today to hit the retracts up, however, I did just take it outside for a little 'night' hover to see how the lights looked and I did put the wheels up.

WOW! This looks so great and looks even better flying!

Still have some things to finish such as windshield wipers, antenna's, etc.
04-27-2008 04:49 AM
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TipSpeed
Senior Heliman
Location: Glenside / Telford PA

Looks really good. Love them home brewed cable cutters! they look great.

-Dave
04-27-2008 05:12 AM
 
 
tauscnc
Veteran
Location: IL : www.cuttingedgecnc.c om

Hey gadgetdude,

Awesome work, it looks great in the air. Did you paint or put trim sheet on the main blades.

The cockpit is coming by VEeeerrrrrrryyyyy slowly. I have not designed any new seats at this time and find the deatil in the instrument panel is taking a lot longer than I thought. I am going to have to find a tiny tiny bit to cut it out with.

No other works, kids and work keeping me busy right now.

I can't wait to see the wipers, etc., again awesome work!

taus
04-28-2008 09:13 PM
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reddragon
Key Veteran
Location: Brooklyn, N.Y.

This may sound odd but in the real world what is the purpose of the "Cable Cutters" on the helicopter?
04-28-2008 09:42 PM
 
 
Brokenlink
Senior Heliman
Location: Oakdale,Ca.

Hopefully they never get to try them out.In case they run into wires,it slides up to the back near the fuse and there is a metal cutter there to cut the wire.
04-28-2008 10:02 PM
 
 
gadgetdude
Senior Heliman
Location: Southern California

reddragon:

Good question. They are usually seen on helicopters that fly at low altitude such and Air Medical Helicopters. See below for a explanation I found from the web:

On the front of most U.S. Army and many civil helicopters you may notice a knife like fixture on the top of the cockpit, and one on the bottom of the aircraft near the chin bubbles. These are not antennae for radios like most people believe. They are part of the Wire Strike Protection System (WSPS). The WSPS is made up of several components to protect the helicopter from high wire strikes. It was developed because of the increased risk of wire strikes while flying at low altitudes. If a helicopter hits a power line (Telephone line, electrical line, guy wire for a tower, or any other wire obstacle), the rotor system may become entangled with the wire, and catastrophic failure of the rotor system could lead to total destruction of the aircraft. The WSPS was developed to reduce the severity of a wire obstacle collision by diverting the wire into the cutter blade assemblies. The cutter blades affixed to the top and bottom of the frontal area of the aircraft will usually cut the wire and eliminate the hazard. The WSPS system protects 90% of the frontal area of the helicopter, and reduces the hazard from most wire strikes. With the WSPS, the pilot has a 95% chance of surviving a single wire strike. The odds of survival decrease as the number of wires increases. 2 wires will reduce the chances to 75%, 3 wires to 50%, and 4 wires to about 25%.

04-28-2008 10:07 PM
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Brokenlink
Senior Heliman
Location: Oakdale,Ca.

But they dont always work.

04-28-2008 10:57 PM
 
 
reddragon
Key Veteran
Location: Brooklyn, N.Y.

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reddragon:

Good question. They are usually seen on helicopters that fly at low altitude such and Air Medical Helicopters. See below for a explanation I found from the web:

Gentlemen thank you all for your replies. You would think that attached to a helicopter moving at any speed that these things would not work correctly. Thanks again for the edification.

Wayne -- Fly it like you stole it!
04-30-2008 01:52 PM
 
 
Richard Morgan
Heliman
Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia USA

San's Retracts

A buddy of mine has a 60 size Airwolf that he did not install a gear in at all. Instead, when he flys off of pavement he puts a static gear in that is locked down with a collar. But, beacuse our field is grass he flys it without a gear, and just lands it on it's belly......... He says, "saves weight, still looks great"
04-30-2008 03:23 PM
 
 
gadgetdude
Senior Heliman
Location: Southern California

Some new additions including antennas and Windshield wipers. No the wipers are not true scale Bell 222. I bought what I thought was going to be the right ones from Vario but they turned out to be the ones pictured. I like the look of them so I kept them. This is FUN scale. Also added some details like painting the fuselage buckles and air intake vents. I think this makes it look for realistic.

05-06-2008 05:32 AM
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