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martinpem
Heliman
Location: wales,UK

I know this might be a daft question that's very easy to answer but I'm going to ask it anyway!

What's the story with the 'running it rich' and 'running it lean'?
Can I get this explained in simple terms and what I should be doing with mine. I've got a raptor 30 ARTF kit with the stock engine. What should I be aiming for. It's had about 10 tanks through it now but I just want to make sure i'm doing what it needs.

Sometimes when i try to start the engine i have to have the throttle a couple of clicks up on the transmitter as well as trim all the way to the top - is this right??

Excuse the ignorance but hey, I'm new to this stuff!!!
02-10-2002 Over year old.
 
 
ben1000
Senior Heliman
Location: Gilbert, Arizona

Here's a (hopefully) layman's explanation...

Engines require 2 kinds of fuel to run, 1 is the liquid green or pink stuff that you fill your tank with, and the other is air. The fuel comes in from the tank, and the air comes in through the carb (where the throttle is). The air and fuel is mixed, and then is burnt which produces power.

Now, the amount of power that your engine produces is controlled with the throttle. It lets more or less AIR into the engine, which draws in more fuel as it's needed, but for the engine to run at its best, the correct amount of fuel and air needs to be mixed together. The amount of fuel that is mixed with the air is controlled by the needle valve.

When the valve is open more than necessary, there is too much fuel for the amount of air. The mixture is fuel-rich (more than enough fuel). This is good for breaking in the engine, because the extra fuel that doesn't burn keeps the engine cool and well lubricated and this is good treatment for a new engine.

As you close the needle value, you make the mixutre less fuel-rich, or more fuel-lean. As you lean out the mixture to the correct setting, you will notice more power out of the engine, and the engine will run hotter. As you pass the optimum fuel-air mixture (by continuing to close the needle valve), the engine will become fuel-starved, and eventually stall.

Your engine instructions should be followed to get the optimum mixture settings. Most times they tell you somthing like: Lean out the mixture untiil the engine starts to get fuel starved (engine loses power) and then richen (open) the mixture by 1/8th turn.

2 more things to remember: As the temperature increases, or as you climb in altitude, the air gets thinner, so you will need to re-adjust your needle valve setting for changes in temperature and altitude. Hotter and higher require a leaner mixture. Cooler and colder require a richer mixture. Some planes have an in-flight mixture control so you can lean out the mixture as you fly higher. Most helis don't have this.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Ben
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martinpem
Heliman
Location: wales,UK

Still a bit thick!!!!

Ok I'm getting there (a bit)
I've got two needles one that i can turn by hand and one that needs a small screwdriver - Explain.

If I remember correctly the manual says turn the needle from fully closed to approx two and a half turns as a starting guide. WHich needle gets altered from that point.

And is it strange that i have to use the throttle so much. I was under the impression i had the throttle stick fully down and just used the trim setting around the halfway point to get the engine to start.

Maybe I'm not cut out for this technical stuff - should go back to brain surgery- i think that was easier!!!
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ben1000
Senior Heliman
Location: Gilbert, Arizona

Again, you want to follow your manual.

The turn-by-hand adjustment is for getting the most power at full throttle, and that is where it's usually adjusted (not easy on a heli. You have to adjust, then hover, then adjust, then hover, and so on...). The screw-adjustment is to adjust the mixture at idle. Since helis don't have to idle as slow as planes, this is not as important as the hi-end mixture adjustment, but it's good to get it right. I've often found that the factory setting is good (on OS engines).

I start my engine with the trim tab in the middle and the throttle all the way down. When you have the mixture set correctly, you'll be able to do the same :-)

Regards,

Ben
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