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e-E-Sky Honey Bee- Lama- Belt CP- E-Smart > Did you fly today?
 
 
TJinGuy
Key Veteran
Location: Socorro, NM - USA

Thanks man.

Are you using the CNC tailbox? The bearings look a little bigger in it than in the plastic. As a note I have been adding some white lithium grease to the bearings after I install them. The idea is to catch the dirt and crap before it gets into the bearing.

- Chris

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05-09-2008 11:03 PM
 
 
Gregor99
Key Veteran
Location: Western Wa

Yes, its the CNC tail box. The plastic tail box uses two different sized bearings. From the looks of it, the CNC box uses two of the larger sized bearings from the plastic tail. Size wise they look the same, but the bearings seals are slightly different. They are flanged on one side so they look even larger.

All the bearings are soaking right now and have smoothed out considerably. While I was waiting on the "soak" I noticed the bearings in the tail grips were also quite notchy. So I took the grips appart and they are soaking now as well. Makes me think I should do the same for the main blade grips.

About the grease, I always thought that greased bearings were for low speed, so I use oil, Tri flo to be exact. You mentioned using the grease as a shield. Interesting, let us know how it works out.

Chance favors the prepared mind - Louis Pasteur
05-10-2008 12:25 AM
 
 
Gregor99
Key Veteran
Location: Western Wa

Bearings are done. Took then for a flight. First two flights were OK, but the heli was still pretty loud. 10 seconds into the third flight, the starts vibrating, then gently settles down to the ground. The motor spins but nothing else. At first I thought it was the one-way gone bad. Then I noticed the motor shaft is spinning but the pinion wasn't moving. Its an Esky press-on, friction fit. Never had that happen before. I don't have a spare press on. But I do have a "hard-one" and the Park adapter. I'll work on fitting it tomorrow.

Chance favors the prepared mind - Louis Pasteur
05-10-2008 06:06 AM
 
 
DougsRC
Elite Veteran
Location: MA

Impressive Video TJ, Excellent nose-in- cool view , right down low against the shiney floor and inspirational music as well
05-10-2008 12:16 PM
 
 
bobby e-sky
Senior Heliman
Location: puerto rico

tj thats is very good i am to doing nouse in but i have a little more wind that you doing nouse in i broke a brand new 30minute used aling carbon fiber 325 for mi belt cp it did hit the ground hard it did broke the blades and the thing that hold the main gear main shaft to the atorotation part

05-10-2008 12:26 PM
 
 
toolman18
Key Veteran
Location: Portland, Texas

Very good TJ. Youll be doing circles in no time. Little circles then big circles.
Brad

There are no shortcuts in Helis. Just good hard work.
05-10-2008 04:34 PM
 
 
TJinGuy
Key Veteran
Location: Socorro, NM - USA

Ran 4.5 batteries through the king before I laid him over into the grass. The first 3 were just fighting the wind and the last 1.5 were spent trying some new stuff including some light ff and nose-in.

Ok so man that cnc head is nice. I know, I know everybody always says they are nice but until you try one ... you just don't know. It is so smooth! My heli is actually a little more tame now because the movements are so smooth and controlled. I am liking it but I am also glad I had 118 flights on the plastic. The plastic is great for learning and now I wanting more ... now is the right time.

Toolman I have been trying to do little circles in the gym but I still get freaked out when I come around to nose-in. It is really the transition from side-in to nose-in that is freaking me out because once I am at nose-in, everything is fine. I am hoping next week will hold the key to that door.

- Chris

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05-10-2008 06:14 PM
 
 
tryan02
rrProfessor
Location: Canton, Missouri

I had better success with 8's first you never get to nose in maybe 7 or 8 o'clock at best but mostly just sidein. And the plus side is a little ff breaks up the monotony of training.

Then after that circles are nothing.

If you have a nitro can I borrow it?
05-10-2008 06:30 PM
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toolman18
Key Veteran
Location: Portland, Texas

TJin,
Tryan has an excellent suggestion but for me i would take off nose in and work the nose left to right until i felt comfortable working the entire front 180. Once you get past a certain point its almost a natural reaction to want to go to tail in. Thats a 3/4 circle. I say that because if you go from nose in to side in the opposite way that is 3/4 of a turn. Do both sides like that and put it all together for a slow full piro circle. After getting good at that go make bigger ones. Later
Brad

There are no shortcuts in Helis. Just good hard work.
05-10-2008 06:53 PM
 
 
Gregor99
Key Veteran
Location: Western Wa

Quote 
but I still get freaked out when I come around to nose-in. It is really the transition from side-in to nose-in that is freaking me out

I'm right there with you Chris. Maybe a few packs ahead of you, but at this rate you'll be past me soon. What I did was start by going from side-in to nose-in. Then back to the same side. What I discovered was that I was really week in the 7:30 location, midway between nose-in and nose-left. I spent a couple packs just hovering in that position. Then went back to side-left to nose-in. Lather rinse repeat. Then I started working on other side. Nose-in to nose-right. Once that's feeling good, work on nose-left to nose-right via nose-in. That's were I'm at now.

Tryan, yes, this is painfully tedious. But I've commited myself to getting these moves down before going outside again. Its motivating me to stay focused and push on until I've earned the right to be in the bigger skies.

Chance favors the prepared mind - Louis Pasteur
05-10-2008 06:58 PM
 
 
tryan02
rrProfessor
Location: Canton, Missouri

I humbly bow to your dedication of mastering the basics Greggor Toolman.

But I myself although I enjoy flying helis to no end. I just cant spend that kind of time to do what is necessary to make me a perfect pilot. So I may never learn every degree of orientation but thats fine with me all I wanted to learn was some basic flight to start with. Good news is I became so comfortable with piros I can always spin it around to tail in in a heartbeat.

So I guess what I really wanted to say was do what you have to to enjoy the hobby dont make it tiring to the point you cant enjoy it as we all know helis are tougher as it is. Something about different paths to the same destination comes to mind.

I cant fly much today may get one pack in but like I said time is an issue. My daughter flies model rockets I just welded her up a radio controlled steel launchpad from a 2ch donor heli 45MHZ. Now we gotta go to town 25mi. away to get some engines.

But time with my daughter is even more enjoyable than helis.

I truly am a rich man.

If you have a nitro can I borrow it?
05-10-2008 07:26 PM
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Gregor99
Key Veteran
Location: Western Wa

7 packs so far today. There'll probably be a few more before the day is done. I'm still working my 180s across the nose. 4 out of 5 times I can do it fine. That 5th time, I tend to wander. Strangley enough the little red wagon seems to have a magentic pull on the little bird. Seems like many of my near misses ended up in that direction, which sits in the 2 o-clock position.

At the end of battery #3 the HBK2 wandered off toward the red wagon. I pulled back hard and the nose pitched up. I was only about 6 inches off the ground so when the nose came up the tail blades struck the ground, hard. One went flying off and the other was damaged. The heli pitched over to one side and caught one of the blades. Being so close to the ground I was able bring it down without any further damage. Total damage was both tail blades and one main blade. I've been running the same Esky wood blades since November, so I didn't feel to bad about loosing one. However, I will miss the K&B tail blades as as the stock blades just aren't as crisp. I have 2 more sets of the Esky woodies and don't plan on moving to the Align blades until after the Toolman piro practice.

Chance favors the prepared mind - Louis Pasteur
05-11-2008 02:56 AM
 
 
toolman18
Key Veteran
Location: Portland, Texas

Greg,
I had a blue recycle bin that kept on pulling me toward it. Dont know why....The belt cp just loved it. I also lost a rotor blade to it one day. I also ended up changing the rotor shaft. Oddly enough it was the 2 oclock position. keep up the hard work. Later
Brad

There are no shortcuts in Helis. Just good hard work.
05-11-2008 03:29 AM
 
 
Gregor99
Key Veteran
Location: Western Wa

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Oddly enough it was the 2 oclock position

now that's just strange! Thanks for encouragement. I've 4 packs since the crash. Its been a long time since I've crashed and I'm not used to the after-crash-doubts. But I'm pushing ahead, alot more cautiously.

Chance favors the prepared mind - Louis Pasteur
05-11-2008 03:42 AM
 
 
TJinGuy
Key Veteran
Location: Socorro, NM - USA

I tell you the "after-crash-doubts" really do work on your psyche. Because of that I went back to the athletic field, where this mornings crashes happened, and fly 2 packs. The wind was blowing pretty good but that cnc head is so smooth that it makes it much easier. Actually the heli movements are too slow now. I think I need to look at the setup and see if I can't speed up things.

Oh and I had a close call but there was nothing I could really do about it. So there I am flying about 5-6ft off the ground and the wind was blowing about 5ish mph constant with gusts of like 10mph. I was doing really well when a huge black lab came running over I just knew if I lifted the heli more, he would jump for it. So I took the low road and sat it down RIGHT NOW and hit th.hold. Well the dog got to the heli just after I killed the power but the blades were still spinning pretty well. He just walked up to the heli and sniffed the blades. He was like 2in away from them and I just knew he was going to get his nose in it. That is just what I need, blood all over my heli! Well I told the dog in a stern but nice voice "back up there boy, you don't want this". He backed up about a foot and by that time the owner was getting close enough to get some command over his dog. He just said "Sorry" and kept going, the whole time just holding a leash in his hand. He never touched his dog and the dog seemed to kind of listen to him, that is just a recipe for disaster. This is why leash laws exist!

- Chris

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05-11-2008 03:56 AM
 
 
tryan02
rrProfessor
Location: Canton, Missouri

Bad stuff coming your way to all you east coast kids man last night was crazy. Storms to no end. The wind is ripping things apart its fast enough you have to yell at someone standing next to you.

Go fly now.

If you have a nitro can I borrow it?
05-11-2008 04:17 PM
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Sgt Heli
Veteran
Location: Remlap, Al USA

Last night was nuts. We got 2" of rain. Most we have gotten in one night here in a least 2 years I'd say.
05-11-2008 06:46 PM
 
 
TJinGuy
Key Veteran
Location: Socorro, NM - USA

Well it is sunny and nice here. There is always wind but it was not too bad this morning, so I ran 3 packs through the heli. I can't wait for the gym on Monday morning.

- Chris

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05-11-2008 06:59 PM
 
 
Camp
Senior Heliman
Location: Easton, PA

Too windy today to fly. I wanted to try my daughter's Trex out now that she's moved to Germany. It flew well for her, I want to see if it's me or my HBK that's not doing as weel as I'd like.
05-11-2008 07:11 PM
 
 
Gregor99
Key Veteran
Location: Western Wa

7 flights today, 6 with the King and 1 with the resurrected Blade CP that is slowly turning into an Esky CP. I'm contining the Toolman piros have hit a bit of a platue. I can do them now in both directions. Although not perfectly and certainly not comfortably. So I raised the bar a bit and finally removed the training gear. At the first flight it hit me that I've never done nose-in without the TG. That sort of psyched for the next two batteries. I did a bunch of nose-in, side-in and a few Toolman piros in my strong direction, none in the week direction.

Chance favors the prepared mind - Louis Pasteur
05-12-2008 06:49 AM
 
 
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