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e-JR Voyager E > AstroFlight in a Voyager E
 
 
srslamalot
Senior Heliman
Location: Atlanta, GA

Hello All,
I am very close to purchasing a brushless motor for my Voyager E. And I would love to purchase a Hacker motor and controller, but AstroFlight has a motor controller combo (803HV )for the Voyager for a lot less. The only problem is that I haven’t found any good info on it except for a post from E-Zone Mag
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...ght=astroflight
I would like to talk to someone that is using this combo in there Voyager E to see if it’s worth buying, or should I just fork over the extra money for a Hacker?

If my wife finds out how much these things cost, she's gonna kill me!!!
03-25-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Marcimus
Heliman
Location: Little Britain, PA

The astro is a great motor but do not buy it with the bundled speed controller. It is an airplane contoller with a hard cut-off. I still can't fly mine due to this esc problem and Astroflight just blows smoke. Buy the motor and the esc seperate.

Good luck!
03-26-2003 Over year old.
 
 
srslamalot
Senior Heliman
Location: Atlanta, GA

What controller did yours come with? I got an e-mail reply from someone using the AstroFlight motor saying that the controller that comes with the combo now is a Castle Creations Phoeix 35v. I'm going to call AstroFlight tomorrow, and if that's not the case, I'll just order a Hacker 40-3P.

If my wife finds out how much these things cost, she's gonna kill me!!!
03-26-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Marcimus
Heliman
Location: Little Britain, PA

Mine came with a castle creations 25 aircraft controller. I know with the problems everyone had, astro had had to do something else. I would try and verify exactly what is being supplied. Castle had problems with their existing 35 and this week have a new batch that addresses several problems. Castle is somewhat new to the heli requirements and so have revamped the software and separated the bec circuit, (I spoke Patrick at Castle today). Mine should ship Friday. If someone tells you they have the new ones already I would hold them suspect. An astro 020 with the new Castle 35 ESC will be a great low cost setup!

Mark
03-27-2003 Over year old.
 
 
srslamalot
Senior Heliman
Location: Atlanta, GA

I called AstroFlight last week, and spoke to Bob. He told me that he was shipping the Castle Phoenix 35 controller with the combo, and his last shipment had problems. I ordered the motor, but I ordered the Phoenix 45 controller from Castle (AstroFlight was out of stock). Anyway, well see how it works. I’ve hear some great things about the AstroFlight motor. Can’t wait to try it out.

If my wife finds out how much these things cost, she's gonna kill me!!!
04-02-2003 Over year old.
 
 
spessx
Senior Heliman
Location: Texas

Hey guys,

I've got a Castle Creations Phoenix 35 and think its a great controller. Also, their service is excellent! Make sure you look into the Czech made Mega motors - I'm using them in both a Corona and converted Hawk 30 - they work great and are relatively cheap.

-Stephen
04-02-2003 Over year old.
 
 
peter84
Senior Heliman
Location: Lancaster, PA. USA

AstroFlight Motor, how does it compare?

What can you share about the performance of this motor relative to one of the Hacker motors in a a Voyager E? I am currently looking to upgrade to a brushless motor and would appreciate your feedback.
04-08-2003 Over year old.
 
 
srslamalot
Senior Heliman
Location: Atlanta, GA

I should be getting my AstroFlight tomorrow, but who knows when I'll get to fly with it, because it's snowing here in Connecticut. I can only compare it to the stock setup, because this is the first brushless motor I've purchased, so I'm sure that I'll be very happy with it.
I wrote to Roy (the guy that started the thread on the AstroFlight motor on RC groups) to see if he had a chance to compare the motors, and he said,
"No, I never had the opportunity to drag race my friend's Hacker. He kept
"forgetting" to bring his and I sold mine to help finance a nitro
helicopter. I was able to fly his helo before I started testing motors for
Bob. His Hacker did seem to climb a little faster but mine was a lot faster
in fast forward flight and was much more responsive. My Astro was also
flying about 1 minute longer. The Hacker may have slightly more punch but
the Astro much smaller and lighter. Voyagers have such a high disk loading
that losing as much weight as possible is very important to this machine.
Fred Bronk now has both motors and will be doing a comparison soon."

If my wife finds out how much these things cost, she's gonna kill me!!!
04-08-2003 Over year old.
 
 
pwkpete
Senior Heliman
Location: Pewaukee, WI, USA

RE: CC Phoenix controllers

Yes, there have been a few issues that Patrick has been working on with the 35. I have been talking with him about issues with the one I had. The new one is supposed to have 2 extra layers and more copper to reduce noise. It will also have the BEC from the 45 and improved software including a better commutation algorithm, which should significantly improve the governor. I should get one by the weekend for testing.

I bought a Kontronic Beat 40-8-12 as a replacement for one of mine, and waiting for the 35 upgrade in the other. It's rock solid and has the smoothest start of all brushless esc's, the Phoenix is close. The current Hacker is pretty rough on gears, although they also have a new controller coming out in a few months as well.

Peter, are you a member of a club in the area? (SWARM?)

-Pete
04-09-2003 Over year old.
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DMShanks
Senior Heliman
Location: Salt Lake City, UT

Good thread! Pete, what Kontronic retailer is the best to deal with, and which has the best prices? good luck with your electrics.
04-10-2003 Over year old.
 
 
pwkpete
Senior Heliman
Location: Pewaukee, WI, USA

Hey David,

I've gotten my Kontronics from Fitz @ fxaeromodels.com or Etienne @ icare-rc.com. B oth are good to work with, expecially Fitz!

-P
04-10-2003 Over year old.
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