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Blitz Helicopters Avro 90 > How good is the Avro?

medfoch
Senior Heliman
Location: Bay Village, Ohio

I have some questions - for people that own / or have hands on experience...

1. Where to purchase in US
2. Can you compare its flying qualities to other helis
3. How is the build quality - compare to Aurora or xcell etc
4. avro or wait for the aurora?
5. Is it all that and a bag of chips?
6. Crash cost - how bad is it -
7. spares availibility - can I get them in US or am I always gunna have to ship accross the pond? How long does shipping accross the pond take?
8. any other commments please!!

02-26-2008 06:28 PM

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marked23
Veteran
Location: Lynnwood, WA

1. There's a shop in Colorado that is gearing up to sell these things in the US. I have one on reserve.
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7. That shop in CO will sell spares. I hear shipping from UK is not too bad either... Just a few days.
8. I like the idea of the belt drive off of the engine.

The rest, I don't know... I'm just taking a shot in the dark.

02-26-2008 06:49 PM

Markxjr13
Heliman
Location: Manchester England

Having built and flown several 90 size machines the Avro is up there as one of the best, I have flown a Vibe for the last 18 months, before that a Tempest, the Avro has a excellent C of G, has been well designed and is engineered to the highest standards, it really is a top end machine.

02-26-2008 07:31 PM

synodontis
Veteran
Location: United Kingdom

I may get flamed for this:

Personally I think the AVRO is better than the Aurora. Main reason is that it's available and the people behind it don't mess with their customers and fail delivery dates (it was released when they say it would be released). The designer behind it has a lot of experience flying and building helis so he knows what wears and the ins and outs of certain design trade offs.

The Aurora at the moment is still not out, and if you get an AVRO I seriously doubt you'd care about the Aurora.

I am sick and tired of all these people who say the Aurora is the ultimate this and that, because that's just the kind of BS you say when you see a brilliant pilot use it.

So get an AVRO and have a ball.

02-26-2008 07:35 PM

Markxjr13
Heliman
Location: Manchester England

Synodontis, well said, Avro is the ultimate, great machine, great service, on time.

02-26-2008 07:52 PM

The Old Guy
Senior Heliman
Location: UK Surrey

If you read all the other threads i do not think you will find one bad thing said about it, I love mine!!!!!!!!!!!!

02-26-2008 09:24 PM

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Jonty
Veteran
Location: London

I have seen it fly and I can say it is the nicest heli I have ever seen and had the pleasure of seeing fly. The build quality is second to none and the service from Blitz is fantastic.

02-26-2008 10:14 PM

kirk
Veteran
Location: Thornton, Colorado

medfoch

1. www.motionunlimitedusa.com
2. I have had just about everything (except the Aurora of course) so for what its worth I will be able to in a couple of weeks.
3. Not 100% sure but I do have a lot of experence with the company that machines a lot of the parts and they are second to none when it comes to quality and fit.
4. That's up to you. Both helis are top notch
5. I think so

I like looking at it and would be proud to have one at the field...
6. Hope I don't find out but it is a high end 90 so a hard crash will not be cheap. Parts prices seem very reasonable even compared to the low value of the dollar...
7. Please see response below
8. Belt drive is different and should help smooth out the machine (no long start shaft or associated bearing blocks to deal with). Also the heli already has all of the bits on it upgraded stock that some would buy for other machines.

My kit will be here soon. I will be one of the guys supporting the heli here in the States, so if anyone needs help or info I will be able to assist.

As it stands now an order of kits and parts are scheduled to be here next week so FULL US support will be available very soon.

Kirk

02-26-2008 10:20 PM

AreA51tje
Senior Heliman
Location: Murcia, Spain

Hi Medfoch... The thing is as always... Alan Szabo flies the AURORA so its the best heli on the market... but tomorrow he flies the new TREX 700 and then the AURORA is a bad helicopter and the REX700 is the best!!

Always goes like that with these things...

I will be setting up a complete service point for the spanish costumers here in Spain which will be up and running very shortly.

The AVRO is just a perfect helicopter where as you can programm it as you wish... want just some relax stable flying o really hardcore 3D... its posible!

Another very important thing is the Tail, I think at the moment its the fasest tail on the market and this helps awfull a lot in the manouvers we do in 3D.

The Service of the Blitz guys is just perfect... Think this is one of the most important issues now a days...

To choose between AVRO o AURORA... I would buy both

they are both great helicopters... but as the AVRO is reality I would buy one if I where you..

Enjoy and good luck,
Regards, Dave

02-26-2008 11:49 PM

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MattJen
Elite Veteran
Location: UK,Gravesend, Kent

Crash Parts

The cost of crash parts was the first thing i asked about, Blitz's goal when building and designing this machine was to make the parts competitive, high quality,ready available,so the pilots down time was kept to a minimum...in the event of a smack

Any 90 size machine is gonna cost you money when you smack it in,,,

But the design of the AVRO , the high grade of materials used in manufacturering would keep the crash parts to a minimum,

The thing i found on my venture, being double stack frames, each frame was well expensive, the Avro is a single frame, the design of it is to protect a lot of key important parts,even their main shaft, Dave has not managed to bend one yet, and he flies hard!! this was highlighted at the 3D masters, it was very soon after the smack..

But what i like, is those parts are on hand, so your down time is minimum, with my Venture, i was out of action for 12 weeks, cos basic crash parts were out of stock...and i missed 2 comps..

I was met with " Well it is not a popular machine so we don't hold high stocks of those parts" that was from a key person within the company,

my attitude was stuff you after spending £900.00 on a decent machine, which is why it is up for sale as an Airframe, and i went down the Avro route...

The Xcell is old technology, the Aurora is a pie in the sky, people have paid deposits and have been left with a bad taste in their mouth cos it hasn't appeared..

This machine is here, it has good backup of parts, you can ring for info and it will be given to you, i spoke to Blitz and said, this machine is soo sensitive i am struggling to get enjoyment, they took my point on board (when clearly from the threads and posts on this forum i am in am minority,) yet they are working on an even more docile setup...for us novices...

That is pride in their machines and willingness to listen... not many do that, what normally happens is loads of people smack their models and you eventually get SOLD AN UPGRADE... NOT SO WITH THE AVRO and Blitz... it must be a good name in the Model helli world, cos i noticed in the HELLIE MAG A NEW COMPANY CALLED BLING HELLIES is trying to get in on the action...with a model helicopter..

These comments are my opinion only, i am in no way connected with Blitz

Matt

I bought mymother in law a chair for xmas, but she would not plug it in.

02-27-2008 11:24 PM

MooneyDriver
Veteran
Location: Kent, Ohio

I would be concerned about that metal torque tube. I used one at one time. It would bend in an auto that wasn't that hard. Carbon would be a much better choice.

I rather like the idea of belt drive, but I have no experience with one. I'd think it would make for a smoother machine.

-Neil

Hey man, why does my lipo get bigger every time I charge it?

02-28-2008 12:03 AM

TYREE
Veteran
Location: Sonoma county

Belt drives......

are cheaper to repair etc. but they are less efficient so rob energy for autos etc.

Ty

02-28-2008 01:08 AM

ANDYC
Heliman
Location: BICESTER/OXON england

? the belt is stationary during an auto, so it robs nothing

02-28-2008 08:24 AM

DenisS
Key Veteran
Location: Essex, UK

AndyC
I think MooneyDriver was referring to the primary drive belt being smoother (which it is) and Tyree was referring to a tail belt, slight confusion.
MooneyDriver- I think the reason that they went for metal torque tube and not carbon is that with hard piro moves the carbon could split down its length during sudden stops (Neal from Blitz will correct me if I'm wrong). If you saw the tube drive that the Blitz uses you would have every confidence in it.
Denis

Crash 'n Lurn

02-28-2008 10:17 AM

medfoch
Senior Heliman
Location: Bay Village, Ohio

Thanks for all the info

02-28-2008 09:34 PM

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A129
Senior Heliman
Location: Home

Quote
Alan Szabo flies the AURORA so its the best heli on the market... but tomorrow he flies the new TREX 700 and then the AURORA is a bad helicopter and the REX700 is the best!!

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I am sick and tired of all these people who say the Aurora is the ultimate this and that, because that's just the kind of BS you say when you see a brilliant pilot use it.

100% true! That happend when they released Trex 700. I try to avoid each way company who manufacturer also vacuum

That is woman job

Unfortunately i don't have a funds to buying AVRO

03-01-2008 06:58 AM

Helinutnz
Elite Veteran
Location: below 42 South

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100% true! That happend when they released Trex 700. I try to avoid each way company who manufacturer also vacuum That is woman job

wow....such wise words. Trex 700 isn't released yet.
The trex is cost effective and flies well. That makes it a success.

I will agree this "best of" crap makes me sick. In the hands of A szabo anything flies great and that tells me one thing only....the rest of us are crap compared to the pro's. Thats a cold hard fact. Ain't no heli....cheap or expensive going to change that....only fuel will. The real concern is 1. support 2. availability 3. reliability 4. cost effectiveness and 5. What looks good to YOU.

The rest is all bling, bragging rights and bull$hit.

I'd rather crash 5 trex's if it would make me a better pilot in the end than 5 high end heli's. After all said and done if you too can fly a "crap" heli like A Szabo the I am sure your fancy bells and whistles heli will more than likely be nicer to own and fly.

03-02-2008 05:40 AM

Bond007
Senior Heliman
Location: Leicestershire UK

A BIG up to Blitz

I cannot put into words how impressed I am with the level of service from all involved with Blitz

I've asked a few questions recently, and have always received a quick and comprehensive reply, not only containing the answer to my query, but with a full explanation as well

I've also ordered some spares, and had email verification almost instantly, including a personal reply on a Saturday, and received the parts promptly

Absolutely first class service, second to none

Thanks to all at Blitz

Blitz Avro, Trex 500

03-08-2008 04:38 PM

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