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Mavrik1
Senior Heliman
Location: Tucson, Arizona

When you have the mindset that you will crash and it's OK to crash it lessens the pucker factor. My first couple of trainer heli crashes I got really pissed off, after changing my mindset to it's OK to crash and it will happen (reading this over and over on RR) it's now more like, hmm, I wonder what parts I need this time. This makes me a more aggressive flyer and I'm advancing quickly. (It's been about a month since I have crashed last and I fly everyday)

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... I would only hover around like a Pussy.

Try to avoid this at all costs.

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The bottom line is having fun.
06-07-2008 07:17 AM
 
 
speeddemon370
Veteran
Location: Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada

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I would only hover around like a Pussy.

Try to avoid this at all costs.

I don't think hovering around is a bad idea for anybody. As long as you're rotating the heli on the yaw axis you can still learn alot. I'm working on my piro figure 8's and I've had to do alot of orientation training again.

Point is, it's your heli to crash or baby as you see fit. That's what makes it acceptable, some people will play lawn darts with em while others will treasure the bird and almost never even fly it. Do whatever floats your boat.

with 2 ears and 1 mouth you should listen twice as much as you talk
06-07-2008 05:55 PM
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Matt Smith
Heliman
Location: Newton, NJ

Unfortunately, I didn't get a chance to fly over the weekend, but there was some consolation in that I got to spend three days at Reading WWII weekend. I brought some batteries to work today, so if the 95° heat isn't too much for me, I'll probably try to work my way back into those slow CCW piros at lunch. With any luck, the winds will start slackening up now that summer's here for real; in the meantime I'm going back to the sim where it's air-conditioned.
06-09-2008 03:27 PM
 
 
GyroFreak
Key Veteran
Location: Florida ... 28° 50' N 81° 16' W

I never crash, I just have some very very very hard landings that break everything !!

Support bacteria. They're the only culture some people have. !
06-09-2008 03:38 PM
 
 
Helidown
New Heliman
Location: Northern Ireland

IMO if you're gonna fly RC Helicopters you're gonna crash it stinks in the begining but now it's not so bad because each time I crash It's because I have done something stupid or something new and I feel like I have gained a little more ability ,bit like a baby learning to walk ,crawls first ,stands up and falls down,sooner or later takes a few steps and falls down again but eventually learns to stay up and thats good until baby gets older and drinks beer and falls down again so don't ever drink and fly RC Helicopters cause you might fall over and you will crash you're Heli if you do that
06-10-2008 12:13 AM
 
 
zeese5
Heliman
Location: Malaysia

It's difficult for not to crash during the beginning of learning stages. When I started learning to fly, I also told myself to be among the few in this world that don't crash.. or don't crash as much.. but I simply could not do it.
06-10-2008 02:19 AM
 
 
Eric Giorgianto
Heliman
Location: New Jersey

WHY....?????

what are you talking about? it's a given if you ain't crashing you ain't flying period.... Most guys that stick with this hobby will tell you the same thing, also consider the beginner that has learned to hover and transition into different orientations he may not have crashed in the normal sense, but I'll bet he has lost orientation at some point in the learning curve and manged to save it at the last minute, I consider this to be a crash of sorts, as he lost control of the chopper for a while and was not flying but, trying to avoid hitting the ground, I know I'm nit-picking but that is also part of the learning process, when I help someone new to choppers I always say at some point you will lose control
and may crash, just my way of looking at it, but trust me eventually you will crash, and I know from experience as I have been crashing for 17 years, with some very nice flights in between....LOL

Eric G.
"THE DIVOT MAKER'

BTW, I know for a fact that a beginner that has his first crash, will then progress faster than he did before, as he now has that obstacle and fear out of his mind and can concentrate on pushing his abilities,
06-10-2008 11:13 AM
 
 
mchammer
Veteran
Location: California,USA

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Usually a lot of guys who've told me they've never crashed and they do all this stuff, when I finally get to see them fly in person, they usually are two empire state buildings high and you can barely make out the manuever, lol.

Isn't that the truth.

If you aint crashin you certainly aint flyin.

Peace Through Superior Firepower!!!
06-20-2008 07:56 AM
 
 
AllThumbs
Senior Heliman
Location: New Zealand

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If you aint crashin you certainly aint flyin

True.. But it doesn't have to be that way..
I taught myself how to fly and it was more than 2 years before I had a crash.. By then I was flying in FAI Sportsman comps doing aero's & auto's etc.. And the first crash was from loss of orientation in bad light. (Totalled my Acrostar)
Thing I found was not to spend to long trying at each session.. When the consentration starts to go.. so did the heli. I'd do 2 or 3, 5 min flights every day on my old ECO8 till I could fly circuits..
I only started having more crashes when i started to push myself through my flying "Comfort Zone". Now I've had 2 this year both from dumb thumbs while trying 3D things out and becoming disorentated..
Yes, crashing is somwhat inevitable? But how often is up to the pilot?
06-20-2008 08:12 AM
 
 
mchammer
Veteran
Location: California,USA

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I taught myself how to fly and it was more than 2 years before I had a crash.. By then I was flying in FAI Sportsman comps doing aero's & auto's etc.. And the first crash was from loss of orientation in bad light.

I honestly have to say I dont believe you.
If you were just learning to fly planks I still wouldnt believe you.

I know that I am not the fastest learner but had alot of plank flying time before getting into helis,and had one of the best heli teachers one could possibly ask for.the crashing didnt start when i was learning to hover but after I took the training gear off that was another story.and now 20 years later I crash about twice a month.had 2 boxes of heli parts come to the door yesterday as a matter of fact.

All that said If you are realy telling the truth with your claims than you are either Superman, Barack Obama, or Manny Lalo.

Peace Through Superior Firepower!!!
06-21-2008 02:34 AM
 
 
mchammer
Veteran
Location: California,USA

Peace Through Superior Firepower!!!
06-21-2008 03:04 AM
 
 
AllThumbs
Senior Heliman
Location: New Zealand

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Superman, Barack Obama, or Manny Lalo
Ha... I wish. If I were superman I don't think I'd bother with Heli's..
It is true.. infact, when I toasted the Acrostar the other pilots were a little stuned that it was me.... Sounds a little like I'm my own number one fan.. but trust me, I'm not.. There are plenty of pilots that I fly with that I have never seen bend a heil, & others that I enjoy watching plant theirs all the time..
To be completley honest, I don't crash often, because I can't afford the repair bill.... wife & 3 kids clean me out first
A little respect for the heli & fear of the wallet helps a lot!!

One thing you metioned.. You used to fly planks before heli's..
I went straight to heli's.. I have seen many plank fliers get into trouble with heli's once they start circuit flying.. Don't know why.
I also now fly planks & no, I don't bin them either (Except the little foamie.. bring on the CA)
06-21-2008 03:09 AM
 
 
AllThumbs
Senior Heliman
Location: New Zealand

Thanks, I was wondering who the last guy was???
06-21-2008 03:10 AM
 
 
ruddernate
Senior Heliman
Location: sulphur,Ok.

crashing in oklahoma

I'm a noob, and may not be typical but here's my experience ,
I started with an Eagle 50 electric. it's a Walkera 22E clone. It was cheap ($109) but looked really cool. I have 2 sims which i spent many hours on before flying. I started slow, trying to hover, but with noone to help i was also learning to set the heli up at the same time. All these variables , to me, are a recipe for numerous crashes. The fear factor was my biggest enemy. When i decided to get my courage up and get up and out of the ground wash i've read so much about, success. To me success, at this point, is hovering through an entire charge with no damage. Damage was an every day thing at first but now i'm truly learning. Courage is everything and crashes are inevitable.
06-21-2008 08:47 AM
 
 
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