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e-Hirobo SRB Quark - Lepton - XRB Coaxial > My New Precious - Hirobo Quark
 
 
vsnyder8
Veteran
Location: Ft Wayne, IN

Does anyone have a URL with specs on this thing, looks like it would be fun for indoor flying. Can it be flown outside? I would like to find out more about the quark.

I started out with a fixed pitch heli, el cheapo, but it was fun to fly in the garage in the winter. I have a cx2 but it is almost to easy to fly, no challenge.

Thanks
Van
02-26-2008 05:14 PM
 
 
Blik
Senior Heliman
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Vsnyder8, I have sent you a PM with some info.

Cheers
Blik
02-26-2008 05:43 PM
 
 
Vance
Veteran
Location: York ,PA

Anyone know how much this is gonna cost in the US?
Thanks
Vince D
02-26-2008 06:00 PM
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Blik
Senior Heliman
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

These were selling for $450.00 in Canada for the complete kit. It included SRB Heli, FM transmitter, Lipo, charger, box of 8 main blades, box of 4 tail blades, blade balancer, tool set and ready to fly. MRC has not given any information because the helis are still on a boat. I would hope they are not priced higher than that, but time will tell.

Cheers
Blik
02-26-2008 07:53 PM
 
 
MRC-Hirobo
Key Veteran
Location: Edison, NJ

?????

Sorry again, I recall posting our pricing on RR in another thread, maybe not this one.

We originally quoted the heli as 400ish depending on the dealer. Direct from us, which mind you we suggest you go to one of our dealers, looks like will be 470.00 but on the streets probably will be in the area of 425 or so based on pricing standards out there. It could be less or more depending on the dealer. COuld be 400.00. You will have to check with your favorite shop for their selling price. Have your favorite dealer call us so he can quote you accurately.

Sorry for all the info trouble with this, seems like more confusion than normal.

Jeff

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02-26-2008 08:04 PM
 
 
vsnyder8
Veteran
Location: Ft Wayne, IN

Thanks, for the info Blik, Looks like it flies well outside and inside. Nice heli for someone like me, I don't get alot of time to practice and sometimes just want something simple to play with and relax.

There are times when I want to fly my Trex for the challenge and thrill, but most times I want to go out infront of my house and fly something simple and easy, and if I do crash I am not spending 3 hrs putting it back together and tuning again.

This looks like a fun little heli. I agree with some people that is is a tad expensive for a fp heli but then I see people buy a blade cx2 for under $200 then put $200 worth of upgrades on it. lol

Van
02-26-2008 09:13 PM
 
 
spencer737
Heliman
Location: Calgary, AB - Canada

Is this thing full control or just like 2 ch

Practice Makes Perfect, But No One Is Perfect, So Why Practice?
02-26-2008 10:30 PM
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Blik
Senior Heliman
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

spencer737, check out my gallery and you will see all the pics of the kit. It is full control with a direct driven tail rotor via coreless tail motor. I own the SRB kit that included the transmitter but I know there is a heli only kit available, which you can use your own FM transmitter. The control unit allows you to adjust many more settings than the BladeCX2. This little heli is a blast to fly and I agree with Van it's nice to just have fun flying around in your back yard, park or house without worrying about a major crash and downtime. The flight times I have been getting are around 9.5 minutes and the most damage has been a couple sets of blades and I have crashed this thing real good

One thing this heli is very light but you can change a few head settings and rudder angles to help with better control in light wind.
http://runryder.com/helicopter/t408031p2/

Cheers
Blik
02-26-2008 10:45 PM
 
 
spencer737
Heliman
Location: Calgary, AB - Canada

COOL i might consider it, it would be awesome if they sold a 2.4 version lol!

Practice Makes Perfect, But No One Is Perfect, So Why Practice?
02-26-2008 10:48 PM
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Blik
Senior Heliman
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Yes a 2.4Ghz Quark would be nice but these are the only frequencies allowed in Japan and it would probably cost way too much to have the DSM system incorporated with this small heli.

Japan
Submitted by CIAM Delegate on 23 June 2004
The legal frequencies for radio-control model aircraft in Japan are:

40.770MHz, 40.790MHz, 40.810MHz, 40.830MHz, 40.850MHz.

72.130MHz, 72.150MHz, 72.170MHz, 72.190MHz, 72.210MHz,
72.790MHz, 72.810MHz, 72.830MHz, 72.850MHz, 72.870MHz

So I guess we are very lucky in NA to have 72MHZ and 2.4GHz frequencies available.

Cheers
Blik
02-27-2008 01:18 AM
 
 
vsnyder8
Veteran
Location: Ft Wayne, IN

You have got to be kidding me. That thing only ways 6 oz. - My blade cx2 weighs in at 8 oz.

How can that handle any air movement without being blown away?

Can you change the angle of the main blades, to achieve higher speed or something?

Van

Just curious
02-27-2008 03:17 AM
 
 
Blik
Senior Heliman
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

LOL yes it is very light and that is why the crash damage is minimal. I have flown mine outside with a light wind and it came back home with me.

The manual says "Control becomes very difficult when the wind speed is 3m or more" (6.7 mph)

Check out my post on Page 1 of this topic and you will see there are a few expert settings. One is moving a selector switch on the control unit and the other you change the position of the balls in the stabalizer which gives you more sensitive steering for outside flight.

Cheers
Blik
02-27-2008 03:43 AM
 
 
vsnyder8
Veteran
Location: Ft Wayne, IN

It sounds like this thing is considerably different then the Humblebee I started out with.

That thing had a brushed motor, heavy slow blades and even after learning to fly my Trex and my blade cp with relative smooth control in all directions, I still have a very hard time hovering it. lol it wobbles all around even when everything is balanced. POS

Anyhow, back on the subject, I did read your prior comments about the quark and I am getting very interested in seeing what all it can do. It sounds like a high quality heli disguised as a toy. ha ha

I for one have dumped some bucks into my cx2 so it feels more like a heli then just a toy, but I haven't bought the high power motors and open tail system. I will not be doing anymore upgrades on the cx2, I will be watching the quark reviews, sounds like a good compromise between hard to fly heli's and a toy heli

Van
02-27-2008 02:12 PM
 
 
Blik
Senior Heliman
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Van, I also had a bladeCX2 with the extreme head and all the upgrades but it doesn't even come close to how this Quark flys out of the box. Even the price didn't scare me because as you know it is very easy to put another $150.00 + into the BladeCX2 to try to make it fly like a real RC heli.

Cheers
Blik
02-27-2008 03:18 PM
 
 
happyfly
Senior Heliman
Location: HK

i love it and fly it everynite. 10 mins flight time is true as shown on the ad. simply let the lipo be charged using the original charger, you can fly it after some TV time. Dial in some positive exp 40% to make it more sensitive around the center, leave the ATV untounched on the TX and simpy turn on the switch (4) on the RX set which makes the servo travel more, move the ball link position towards centre on the seesaw to make the paddles have more angle. that's all I need to make it fly like a big stuff

Cheers, Happyfly
02-28-2008 03:56 PM
 
 
Blik
Senior Heliman
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

happyfly, great to hear more peoples experiences and tweaking. I have left my settings stock for now but do you really notice a difference with your advanced settings? Have you flown the Quark outside with both settings?

Cheers
Blik
02-28-2008 04:35 PM
 
 
HeliYogi
New Heliman
Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA

Thanks MRC

Hi Jeff, well I called the phone on your web site, was patch trough to two nice ladies and then this man answered, I don't remember his name and well maybe I got cut him in his 5 minutes of anger or something.

Anyways, no hard felling and I also have my eye on the XRB air wolf, so keep us posted...
03-01-2008 07:42 AM
 
 
HeliYogi
New Heliman
Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA

Quark and XRB Shuttle laminated blades phots

Hey Blik!

Thanks for the welcome and I agree 100% IT'S AMAZING how this machine flys. I had to experience the ordeal of buying frustration machines insted of flying machines (aka: e-skys, falcons ... JUNK!) But I guess that is how one learns, hour's and hour's of setting up and almost no flying time, absolute frustration.

Now for the first time I charge the battery, laminated the main blades, as you can see in the photos (with the actual problem that they wont fit in the balancer!!! So I had to improvise), and not even bothering to find a traning kit turn it on and lift off! I still can't get over it, I paid $470 for mine no problem at all, super satisfaction!

Two suggestions and one question:
1. Most definitively laminate your blades, this way they will stand trough ligth crashes so you keep flying and not going to the shop buying blades, balancing and then doing it again (specially if you are a begenir like me). The one pice blade is a little tricky unlike the main blades but do it patching togheter small pices of tape, be sure to folow the curve so it keeps it's pitch and it flys like magic.
2. The battery holder is a little unsterdy (don't want to say cheap but it does not compare to the rest of the parts) in mine the battery slided a little fwd and back, so I tape a little square of female Velcro and now the battery is firmly in one position (see photo).
3. I will write to Hirobo about the blade balancer, it seems that is the same as the one for the XRB, but the new blades ring is to small and the blade mount wont go trough it. Any Suggestions anyone?

Thanks for your blade offer, If I'm running short of and there is still none around I will take you on.

I also have my super XRB Shuttle which is the only reason I am still in the hobby (after the chines frstrations), after all my learning it still flys like new!

Happy flying!!!


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03-01-2008 08:54 AM
 
 
vsnyder8
Veteran
Location: Ft Wayne, IN

Anything new on the Quarks, has anyone had a chance to fly outside, how is it in a breeze? I flew my cx2 in a mild breeze the other evening, flies like sh-t in moving air.

I am torn between a HBK2, it is small enough to fly indoors and will handle a breeze, or a quark which will fly well indoors, but I am not sure about outside flying.

Most of my flying is in my front yard, with trees and the street, I can hover my Trex there but it is to big and fast for comfortable flying under tree branches (20 - 30 ft clearance). My blade cp is a perfect size for that area, but the blade has some minor deficits that allow me to hit the ground to often.

I like what I have heard about the quark, easy to handle, doesn't have a lot of damage when it does hit the ground, and it appears to be much easier to set up then a belt driven tail heli. I would like to hear more about how well it does fly outside, is it a little to small to handle the moving air or is there enough power and control that a little breeze isn't a problem.

My lhs doesn't normally deal with Hirobo heli's, but the said they can get my a quark (when available). The problem there is I am committed when I order one. I don't mean to sound cheap but I don't want to spen $400 for anothe cx2 or slightly better then it.

Thanks guys, runryder is the best place to get opinions before buying, and it has helped my bunches in the past.

Van
03-04-2008 12:35 PM
 
 
Blik
Senior Heliman
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Vsnyder8, the Quark is worth every penny and it does fly outside in a light breeze. I am going to change my setup to have more control and then try it outside again. I also had a BladeCX2 and there is no comparison. The Quark is very light so that is why the wind will affect it easily; otherwise the controls are almost identical to a big heli.

HeliYogi, check your mounting hinge on the battery tray because I noticed mine wasn't clipped in 100%. There is also 3 different settings for the battery tray to allow for CG adjustment. In regard to the balancer look at the instructions again because they do fit but only one way. It is easy to try to put them on the wrong way because I had the same problem at first

Cheers
Blik
03-04-2008 05:46 PM
 
 
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