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jmp47
Heliman
Location: San Antonio Texas

After months of bugging my wife she finally gave into the whole helicopter thing. Now for my dilemma. What do I purchase? I have owned both a helicopter and airplane before but I never got fully envolved with them. I bought a used concept DX and got to the point of basic forward flight, autorotations, etc. I have been out of the hobby for 6 yrs and I am stumped on what to purchase. I am looking into the new Quick 30, a Jr 8 channel remote, head holding gyro (when did these come out, and are they good?), and an O.S 32. I need direction from some experienced pilots because ultimately I want to get into scale helicopters and not necessarily hot doging. I am limited to $1500 entry fee for everything, tools, heli, etc... HELP
02-07-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Doug
Elite Veteran
Location: Naples Florida....

It's hard to beat the Raptor for an inexpensive flyer that can do anything. You will find that the "feel" will come right back. HH gyros are great they simplify the setup and relieve you of constant attention, the 401 combo is the way to go.
02-07-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Mike99
Veteran
Location: Canal Winchester, OH

Wow - wish my wife would LET me have $1500 for the first one. I cannot speak for the European side but here is my US side of the story.
BASICS -
1. Stay with a heli that is supported locally in your area at a hobby shop or at the local flying field. Parts and expertise are the best support.
2. Get a Flight Simulator. One crash will pay for it. Real Flight G2 is the top end version but you can find several other ones at less cost.
3. Get some training gear and keep everything close to the ground until you can hover a full tank and change orientation, tail in, 90 degrees, nose in.
4. Heli for me was a Raptor 30 but I think the Quick in Europe is fine.
5. Radio - Get the best one you can afford. Stay away from the "low end" models. You will grow out of them pretty fast. Best to have at least five points on the mixing curves for throttle, pitch etc. (not three like on some cheaper radios). I use a Fut 8UAFSuper and am happy with it. JR 8103 is comparable.
6. Heading Hold Gyros - I cannot imagine life without them... Although I started with old mechanical JR Gyros, the HH models make life a lot easier. You do have to "fly the tail" even in light FF turns but I like that better. Futaba GY401, and a Digital servo (Fut 9253) is an economical combo with good performance.
7. Hang around this forum and ask LOTS of questions. My experience - this is the second best place to learn. First place is at a Fun Fly where all of us addicts get to brag, teach, learn, and fly... crash, rebuild, learn some more... you get the picture.

Mike99
02-07-2002 Over year old.
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oldfart
Elite Veteran
Location: Vancouver, Canada

New Helicopter

May I suggest that you take a serious look at the Hawk IV or Hawk SE for helicopter. Check out the "Hawk IV" subject header in the Beginner Forum here (Just below the Main Discussion in the main menu) and see what people with them are saying about them. Easy to build, Easy to fly, easy to repair, very dependable (no clutch or other problems), durable (takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'), inexpensive to buy and repair, will take you from basic training well into 3D aerobatics, comes with a great muffler. This heli will leave you extra money to spend on better radio and more fuel for training. The main problem with this heli is that it is priced so low that many do not take it seriously. But those of us that have are very impressed.

Also check out the forums further down the list of forums on the mainpage here and see the problems associated with some of the other heli's compared to the Hawk or Falcon. Check out what owners have to say about them in the "showdown" forum at www.rchelicopters.org After all of that I am sure you will see why I recommend it.

Then spend as much as you can on the radio/servos and gyro. With $1500.00 USD you should be able to get the latest Futaba 9C system and their great 401/9253 gyro combo and still have money for a sim, starting equipment and fuel.

A good dealer to get this all from would be from Ron Lund at Rick's R/C www.ronlund.com
02-07-2002 Over year old.
 
 
1UP
Key Veteran
Location: Claymont DE.

what can i say that mike 99 dint !!! (FLIGHT SIMULATOR) (LOCAL FLIGHT FIELD) make friends it's easy (locally supported heli) you are in germany so don't get somthing you have to wate to get parts frome the u.s.!! quick of u.k. good ideal!!( talk to your friend) the gy 401 h.h with servo, can't beat the price for what you need !!
james

JAMES
member of the HOT GIRLS thread
If it's worth doing, then it's worth over doing
02-07-2002 Over year old.
 
 
jmp47
Heliman
Location: San Antonio Texas

thanks

To everyone that responded, thank you for your advice. I have bought a flight simulator and have been using that for quite sometime. I am now looking at purchasing my heli. What I am have boiled it down to is either the x-cell 30 or Hawk IV, Jr 8 pcm radio and futaba gyro. Any advice about what to get would be a plus.
02-11-2002 Over year old.
 
 
vetrider
Elite Veteran
Location: Daleville, AL (Ft.Rucker)

If your perminantly living in Germany then I'd say look at the Quick, Raptor, and for sure the Hirobo Sceadu. www.cyberheli.com

If your coming to the US then I'd say look at the Hawks, Xcells, Raptor, Sceadu. Hard to go wrong with any of those.
RicksRC, Heliproz, Helihut, MTA, Helicoptorworld losts of them out there.
GY401 w/92553 @$200 is the best. I have 2 GY240's that are great also @ $95.

Futaba 9C is great! Easy to use is a big PLUS.

ENJOY




Nolan Manley
MA Stratus-ATOM 500-K3D-TRex600Npro-Logo14
Magnum Fuel, KBDDintl
02-11-2002 Over year old.
 
 
jmp47
Heliman
Location: San Antonio Texas

the problem

This sucks. I have looked for a local club but was totally unsuccessful. I guess I will have to go it alone. I will be back in the states in the future and will find a flight club there. I guess I will be the mail order king for now . I am waiting for and researching a little more before I make the serious committment. I would hate to sink all that money into something I will dislike (type of equipment not the hobby). I have been reading this website since I put out this original posting, however, now I am even more confused Money matters but it is not my driving factor. So after reading 30 or 60? I think that a 60 would be better!!!!! If not, I would like to know why not. From what I gather most people buy numerous machines and we sink an aweful lot of money into them. And we all know what goes up must come down (and not always in one piece).

I am neither a master or genius nor am I a master genius, but building a tough kit and getting it to fly without beating itself to death would be very challenging and rewarding. So any thoughts to this new spin would be appreciated.

02-11-2002 Over year old.
 
 
vetrider
Elite Veteran
Location: Daleville, AL (Ft.Rucker)

Please do Lots of research besides this forum. You'll be miles ahead for it and pretty satisfied when you get a heli you like.

Most 60's are very stable and easier to hover and all but,...... when they hit the ground they cost MORE to repair.

If you get a 30 with OS 32 engine, the fuel & parts savings will allow you to spend more time to learn flying without headaches and a bigger machine later will be a cakewalk. Just my Humble opinion.

Nolan Manley
MA Stratus-ATOM 500-K3D-TRex600Npro-Logo14
Magnum Fuel, KBDDintl
02-11-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Ken B
Elite Veteran
Location: Phoenix, AZ

Where are you at?

JMP, Where are you at? It sounds like you are a GI, I am too I am at Spangdahlem. Let me know.

Ken B
02-11-2002 Over year old.
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vetrider
Elite Veteran
Location: Daleville, AL (Ft.Rucker)

jmp47, Get with Volkul if you can, you'll save hundreds in aggrevation alone and Ken won't steer you wrong.

Nolan Manley
MA Stratus-ATOM 500-K3D-TRex600Npro-Logo14
Magnum Fuel, KBDDintl
02-11-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Ken B
Elite Veteran
Location: Phoenix, AZ

Vetrider,
Thanks for the vote of conficence.

JMP, you can contact me direct here via the E-mail option. I am willing to do some driving around germany to help. As long as you arn't all the way in Garmish Once we make contact we can call each other.

Ken B
02-11-2002 Over year old.
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jmp47
Heliman
Location: San Antonio Texas

contact

Ken,
I sent you an email. Unfortunately, I do not like to talk over computers. Sorry, I know this is a burden, but I am interested in meeting.

John
02-11-2002 Over year old.
 
 
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