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HeliHobby . Ron’s HeliProz South . Century Helicopter

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e-HeliDirect HDX 300-600 > Hummingbird Pro to HDX 300
 
 
sam@chq
Heliman
Location: Sellersburg, IN

OK, the parts for the HBP3D are hard to come by. How does this heli compare to it. From what i see, better! The Pro has all the metal bling and the belt drive conversion. Problem is getting parts! OK so i change to a similar heli that is easier to get parts for.
AS to what i have already and will i need to change anything.
JGF 400DH
Expert Micro 6 ch
Telebee micro HH gyro
HS55 servos cyclic
JR 241 for tail
PHX 25 SC
TP1320 3s packs
Im sure i can find an airframe with some bling already installed.
I have read the "saga" post and if i get a V2 or V3 it should be ok.
Let me hear what you folks think and if i will need to change anything.
Thanks ahead of time for the replies.
Sam
12-27-2007 05:46 PM
 
 
gmcullan
Veteran
Location: Southbridge, MA

Sam, be aware that there are still issues with the factory mainshafts for the HDX300. Even the new, hardened V3 shaft bends way too easily. Making mainshafts from injector rod material helps, but you still have the issue of cross-drilling the shaft for the "Jesus bolt". Easier said than done. I use cobalt drill bits and count on only one cross-hole per bit. The solid carbid bits should last longer, but they are so brittle that any flex at all will shatter the bit.

Parts are readily available for the HDX300 from HeliDirect as well as other sources. When properly setup, it can be a very nice flying little heli. But it doesn't take much at all to screw it up royally.

I've recently installed a MicroHeli all-aluminum rotor head on my HDX300. I like the flight qualities of this head, flying it on a Blade CP, HoneyBee CP2, and a MicroHeli Blade airframe. I'll probably leave my HDX300 in this configuration for a while.

I still will be working toward getting the V3 head working in a consistent manner. This head is essentially a scaled-down T-Rex head. I love the performance of my T-Rex, but it's not comfortable as a "house-heli." The 300-sized helis are a reasonable size for hovering inside. And if your doorways are safely wide enough, it's fun to zip room to room.

If you are starting from scratch with a HDX300, I would definitely recommend the V3 version. The V1 and V2 versions have balance and height issues. I've taken my V2 and made my own front LiPo pack mount. This positions the LiPo pack in the same manner as the V3. This greatly aids balancing the heli. Proper C/G is just as important, and maybe even more so, that that of fixed wing aircraft.

I also made 12mm spacers that fit between the main frame and landing skid legs. This raises the heli up to the point in which tail rotor strikes are less likely to happen.

You can find photos of the LiPo mount and spacers in my gallery.

Setup is extremely critical. The available directions leave much to be desired. Over-all experience with heli construction and setup will be of great value. If you've not worked with an underslung head such as the V3 before, the instructions for the T-Rex 450SE will be a great help. These instructions, as well as a wealth of great setup hints and techniques, are readily available on RunRyder and other forum/internet sources.

As I've said, the HDX300 has the potential to be a great little heli. Just be aware that this is definitely not a "shake it out of the box and fly it" heli. You are going to have to invest time, and probably more money than you'd want to, in getting to a reliable, good flying little heli.

I'm stubborn and will keep working with my HDX300. Those of us that have them have been sharing information for a while. Some of us have enjoyed good success with this heli. But it seems like there is always a nagging problem just waiting to jump out and be solved.

Best of luck with your proposed project. Don't hesitate to present your problems or questions, as there are several of us that will jump in to help you.

Best regards,

Gerry Cullan

Gerry Cullan,
HB CP2, T-Rex 450 SE & SA, HDX300, MicroHeli Monster, Mini-Titan, Blade 400
12-27-2007 06:29 PM
 
 
sam@chq
Heliman
Location: Sellersburg, IN

second thought then?

if im going to invest that time and money then maybe a 450 is in order instead. The only reason i ws thinking the 300 is because i already have what i feel i need. Pretty cool since i started my heli flying on a HoneyBee CP. I have since gone way of gas the Century Hawk and Raven. The 3D Pro was the First one and i got it from the time it first was availible. My son tried flying it but wrecked a year ago and i just haven't had time to look into it. now that i have and find parts are hard to come by i thought it time to change to something more available parts wise.
So what would the best fix be for th eshaft issues? 4mm instead?
12-27-2007 07:00 PM
 
 
gmcullan
Veteran
Location: Southbridge, MA

If you are only going to fly outside, the 450-sized helis offer a lot of possibilities. The several versions of the T-Rex, the HDX450SE, the Thunder Tiger Mini Titan, as well as other similar helis, all offer excellent potential.

If you want to do some indoor flying, the 300-sized helis are the way to go. Regarding your question of using a 4mm shaft, there is just not enough "meat" to machine adequate bearing pockets in the HDX300 as designed.

I've been experimenting with carbon-fiber cored stainless steel main shafts. This is scaled up from technologies I use for slot car axles. The resulting shafts are very light and very stiff. Unfortunately, they are not yet ready to come to market as there are some alloy availability issues to be resolved.

Other belt-driven tail options used to good advantage include the HoneyBee King V2 and others. These are essentially 400-sized helis. The HoneyBee V2 is avaible from multiple sources, is reasonably priced, and has readily available spares. This is just one heli that comes to mind.

So there are options that exist to the HDX300. I'm just thickheaded and determined to solve its problems and end up with a good-flying little heli. When it's "right", it's great. I just want it to be "right" more than it's "wrong".

Gerry Cullan,
HB CP2, T-Rex 450 SE & SA, HDX300, MicroHeli Monster, Mini-Titan, Blade 400
12-27-2007 07:11 PM
 
 
gorn
Elite Veteran
Location: Western Australia

You can get parts for the Pro, its just not called that
Go here http://www.freestyle-hobby.com/cata...4c53e3729c7848e
The Skyartech Mosquito is pretty well the same heli.
Email the store owner and he will hook you up.
He also does a wicked little chassis that is ALL belt drive, no more motor pinion.
There is quite a few posts on another major forum under "Freestyle hobby belt"

If you bling it, they will come :D
12-28-2007 04:13 AM
 
 
jonesjj
Senior Heliman
Location: Northern IL

I have been searching for parts for my HDX 300 I just traded for and I need the 2 little rollers that is behind the larger pulley wheel and the standoffs for those little rollers.

I have checked the ebay vendor and some of the others just for these parts and cant seem to find them, I am blind or they are not available on there own,

Anyone have any sugjestions here or can point me in the right direction?

Thanks
Jeff
12-31-2007 12:08 AM
 
 
gmcullan
Veteran
Location: Southbridge, MA

HeliDirect would be my first "go-to" for small parts like that. They normally have them in stock and they ship out quite quickly. There are other Internet sources for HDX300 parts. For the most part, I don't buy parts from e-Bay, prefering known vendors with good customer service reputations.

Gerry Cullan,
HB CP2, T-Rex 450 SE & SA, HDX300, MicroHeli Monster, Mini-Titan, Blade 400
12-31-2007 01:42 AM
 
 
aristo1963
Senior Heliman
Location: goldsboro nc usa

http://www.cnchelicopter.com/servle...X300-cnc/Detail

here ya go
12-31-2007 09:19 PM
 
 
gorn
Elite Veteran
Location: Western Australia

Can someone tell be what length the HDX300 boom is?

If you bling it, they will come :D
01-01-2008 02:24 AM
 
 
sam@chq
Heliman
Location: Sellersburg, IN

keep HB3Dpro??????

would i just as good to keep it???i bought it so i could fly in the hangar at work when i could not outside. i have the belt drive convertion along with all the bling on the rotor, "unbreakable" gear struts. If i were to try to sell it i know i wouldn't get anything for it.
My son took it out one day while i was at work and broke the pitch links and carbon blades. i just need a set of blades and link set. i never really got ot try it out with the metal blade grips so i know it will be better but when i crash it again the parts are harder to get
01-02-2008 02:20 PM
 
 
gorn
Elite Veteran
Location: Western Australia

I would keep it, you correct in thinking you wont get much for it, as the Pro is well and truly out of favour now.

If you bling it, they will come :D
01-04-2008 01:52 PM
 
 
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