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e-Gaui Hurricane 200 & 550 - EP100 > Hurricane 200 Looking for closeup setup pics

johnIn2Son
Heliman
Location: Tucson,AZ USA

C.G.

i am using the C.F. tail boom and i put my gyro ahead of the mainshaft and i am using the heavyer canopy. this has helped the C.G. alot. put in a Thunder Power Lite 11.1v 910MaH lipo and then you will be front heavy.....lol.

01-12-2008 08:00 PM

Matutu
Heliman
Location: Torquay - United Kingdom

Hi ya guys

Just got one of these little guys awesome machines ive got a Futaba S3154, which I would like to use on the tail, I see some the guys on here have also used this servo.

Yet when I plug in the servo to the GY401 the servo go out of control (all the cyclics) and then the Gaui 12A ESC suddenly goes insanely hot so you can barely touch it. Then when you unplug the servo its fine and the ESC cools down, I have tried 2 of the Gaui ESC's and 2 401's so im putting it down to either the servo or the ESC. I am currently just using a standard 306BB as the tail which holds well but I would love to use the 3154 instead.

Anyone else had experience of this?

Regards

Matutu

01-13-2008 08:11 PM

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S76 Mech
Elite Veteran
Location: Hatboro, Pa.

so what you saying is that when you powerup with the 3154 plugged into the 401, the 3154 goes crazy and the esc gets really hot. but with the 306 plugged in and powered up it doesn't go crazy and overheat your esc. maybe you have a bad servo. I am using a 3154 with pretty good success, but I have read that alot of these servos burn up prematurely. some of them were happening right out of the box.

what pack are you running?

~ Rick
Them Sireens did this to Pete. They loved him up and turned him into a horny toad

01-13-2008 11:22 PM

Maxxx
Heliman
Location: Italy

i've same problem of Matutu and use a gaui pack 800mah 7,4v...
instead with 306BB the system work without overheat, but don't hold well.
With 401 gyro, how much measure in the servo horn the distance from ball to the screw in your setup?
Cheers
Maxxx

01-14-2008 12:11 AM

chopperben1
Heliman
Location: Ontario, Canada

Mine has exactly 10mm (1cm) from the middle of the ball to the middle of the screw.

01-14-2008 12:58 AM

S76 Mech
Elite Veteran
Location: Hatboro, Pa.

I have mine at 10mm also, seems to be working ok there. I have also heard of guys having better luck with the Futaba 3153 digital servo. Guess its like the 9254 vs the 9253, I would take the 9253 anyday over the 9254, to high a failure rate.

http://www.servocity.com/html/s3153.html

~ Rick
Them Sireens did this to Pete. They loved him up and turned him into a horny toad

01-14-2008 01:10 AM

johnIn2Son
Heliman
Location: Tucson,AZ USA

5 BLADE ROTOR HEAD FOR 200

THIS IS SICK. HAS ANYONE ELSE SEEN THE 5-BLADED ROTORHEAD FOR THE HURRICANE!
FLYING-HOBBY.COM HAS IT IN THE UPGRADE SECTION FOR THE 200.
IT'S $109.00 USD. WONDER HOW STABLE IT WOULD BE?? HMMMM.

01-14-2008 07:58 AM

chopperben1
Heliman
Location: Ontario, Canada

Rick, I am using the 3153, and I have not noted any of the issues above in terms of high temps or burnouts. The 3153 is very slightly heavier than the 3154, and I don't really understand the difference between the two, but the 3153 is running cool for me so far.

Also...5 blades...wow...does more blades mean more stability, but less power (because of the increased drag)?

01-14-2008 12:49 PM

Maxxx
Heliman
Location: Italy

I,ve solved today the tail problem with this Ultraspeed Robbe microservo (0,05sec and 0,9kg at 4,8v):
http://www.rcmarket.org/FS-61-BB-SP...AL-p-20143.html
Work with my 401 in DS mode with 30% gain and the tail is solid...
Now i work for a good setup for 3d, because today when i try the model, have a slow speed cyclic (i set 8 degrees), i think i remove the paddles weight and as soon as possible try another time the micro!
cheers
Maxxx

01-14-2008 02:57 PM

Matutu
Heliman
Location: Torquay - United Kingdom

I am having a second problem now. When i use this heli for more than 1 minute (roughly) suddenly i start to get twitches in all servos and the ESC is super hot, and then shuts down all power. Then reconnect battery and its ok for abit more. I have tried 2 ESC's now. Any ideas? Or anyone know a better ESC to get?

Matutu

01-14-2008 08:25 PM

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rstacy
Key Veteran
Location: Rochester, NY

Quote
I am having a second problem now. When i use this heli for more than 1 minute (roughly) suddenly i start to get twitches in all servos and the ESC is super hot, and then shuts down all power. Then reconnect battery and its ok for abit more. I have tried 2 ESC's now. Any ideas? Or anyone know a better ESC to get? Matutu

Matutu,
Are you using 2S or 3S?

www.kylestacy.com
Team MAPTERGY.... nuff said

01-14-2008 09:05 PM

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Matutu
Heliman
Location: Torquay - United Kingdom

2S 800 Esky Packs

Matutu

01-14-2008 09:07 PM

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rstacy
Key Veteran
Location: Rochester, NY

OK. You need to find out what is binding. Unplug one thing at a time.
Putting an amp meter in line will help to diagnose the problem.

www.kylestacy.com
Team MAPTERGY.... nuff said

01-14-2008 09:12 PM

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Matutu
Heliman
Location: Torquay - United Kingdom

Ah ok i didnt know that a servo could cause this sort of over heating by binding i will check that out.

Thanks alot appreciate the assistance.

Regards

Mat

Matutu

01-14-2008 10:16 PM

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S76 Mech
Elite Veteran
Location: Hatboro, Pa.

OK fellas,

I flew another 6 packs today. With the flybar wieghts off, the cyclic was pretty fast. Alot more to my liking. Also seems to free up the head with some dry , silicone lube spray, very lightly applied to all the ball links, mainshaft, swash bearing and tailshaft.

One problem that I have disliked about the heli so far is the pain in the butt it is to get the C/G correct on this heli. I have my gyro and rx up front, the ESC is midframe on the side. I have the Gaui 2S 800 pack hanging almost halfway off the battery tray with the leads facing aft just to they will be long enough to reach the ESC. I have to add alot of fwd trim just to get it to level.

Are you guys adding wieghts to the heli to balance it. I just cannot beat this tail heavy C/G.

PS: I know I have the 9G canopy, but this heli was tailheavy also when I had the painted glass cano (26g)

~ Rick
Them Sireens did this to Pete. They loved him up and turned him into a horny toad

01-15-2008 01:20 AM

S76 Mech
Elite Veteran
Location: Hatboro, Pa.

Hey anyone remember the guy here on RR that made a gyro plate that hung off the front of the heli. I think he had a 1200 Hyperion tucked underneath. Maybe he's onto something....

~ Rick
Them Sireens did this to Pete. They loved him up and turned him into a horny toad

01-15-2008 01:26 AM

JeepCJ
Key Veteran
Location: Pennellville NY (Syracuse Heli Group)

I was thinking about the 1200 pack also. Right now with the Logitech mounted on the bottom plate, as far foward as I can get it. The CG comes out perfect with 14g of weight added to the very front of the canopy. Without the the weight, as soon as you flipped it over, you could tell you were fighting the trim in hover and ff. This thing is so light, it is very sensitive to CG.

Bob

Helicopters....it's all in your head

01-15-2008 01:33 AM

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S76 Mech
Elite Veteran
Location: Hatboro, Pa.

Found it!

Dug back quite a few posts to find it, but I got it. Thanks to zo6 for the borrowed pic. Not sure I like the rx hanging out on the side, and the ESC would be hanging off the other side. But I like the gyro mount!

Also, I am pretty sure the 306 leads aren't long enough to reach comfortably back there. I thought I read somewheres that the HS45 leads are significantly longer.

~ Rick
Them Sireens did this to Pete. They loved him up and turned him into a horny toad

01-15-2008 01:49 AM

johnIn2Son
Heliman
Location: Tucson,AZ USA

1200 pack

i don't see how this tiny heli could fly with a 1200 mah pack??
and for sure the esc has to be changed to a 20amp one or more!!??
john.
rick you culd also move the esc foreward like i did.

01-15-2008 04:04 AM

jayphonic
Heliman
Location: cranston, ri, usa

tail hold problem on gaui 200

i am having a tail hold problem... not all servos... just tail... i take off into a hover, all is amazing for about 30 seconds(no tail input even needed)... then i start to piro counter clockwise and have little to no ability to correct the tail...i have to wait for my heli to "cool" (its not hot) or a new battery wont even give me 5 secs before the slow death piro. i have set my travel limits on the 401... im in ds mode... i am using all different types of batteries (7.4 and 11.1) to eliminate the overheating esc issues... my gear is at 30% in my dx7... i have dismantled and rebuilt a beautiful build into a Frankenstein trying to isolate interference...

is it interference? is my esc junk(any good replacement?) or am i missing something in my dx7 programming? please help... im so close... and its too cold to fly my rex!

01-15-2008 07:19 AM

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