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Radio - JR & Spektrum DSM > Importing X9309 to U.K.
 
 
Richard
Veteran
Location: Scottish Borders, U.K.

Has anyone from the U.K. bought a JR X9303 from the U.S. any problems with Customs or Parcel Farce?

Richard
11-10-2007 06:02 PM
 
 
colsy
Elite Veteran
Location: Cambridge, UK

Customs as always is hit and miss.

And it wont be 'CE' approved, therefore you wont be covered under the BMFA Insurance.

Beware.

Col.

Only Quote From Experience.
11-10-2007 06:32 PM
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Nige
Senior Heliman
Location: Hull, UK

The one I looked at in the USA appeared to have a CE mark on it.

So how do we find out if we can use them?
11-10-2007 06:37 PM
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colsy
Elite Veteran
Location: Cambridge, UK

If its 'CE' marked, then its legal. (Here) 'simple as that'.

col.

Only Quote From Experience.
11-10-2007 06:38 PM
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Richard
Veteran
Location: Scottish Borders, U.K.

I have found customs charges very irregular in the past also, the thing that annoys me is the Parcel farce handling charge of £13.50 or what ever it is now?

Does anyone know what the BMFA insurance policy actually states about Tx use? I am a member of the SAA.

Richard
11-10-2007 07:10 PM
 
 
nickwap
Veteran
Location: Berwick-upon-Tweed -ENGLAND not Scotland

I have a US 9303 on 35 meg the module is marked with the CE but that is a UK module and this is OK.
Richard - check your PM.

Nick

R50, R90, Synergy,Trex 600N, JR9303 2.4 now all I need is some skill!
11-10-2007 07:40 PM
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Richard
Veteran
Location: Scottish Borders, U.K.

Hi Nick,

No flying today? Do you know if Paul has been allocated a frequency yet? he is using the same channel as me.

No PM yet?
11-10-2007 07:48 PM
 
 
Yug
rrProfessor
Location: UK. Herts

I was gonna buy the X9303 from the US until I discovered I wouldn't be covered by BMFA insurance. DSX9 should be here in a few months, that's as good as tomorrow so I'll do it legally

Vegetable rights and Peace
11-10-2007 08:50 PM
 
 
9387ASH
Elite Veteran
Location: UK

Oh.... so by putting a dodgy CE mark on anything makes it legal ??

The X9303 is NOT LEGAL in the UK..... otherwise why the hell would I be looking at quotes for CE testing ???
11-11-2007 02:01 AM
 
 
Yug
rrProfessor
Location: UK. Herts

OK OK, I'm doing it right. Already placed a preorder with RealRaptors.
Appologies if I've naffed you off. If it's any quinciconse I'd be naffed off with me if I were you.
Anyone for a pint

Vegetable rights and Peace
11-11-2007 02:16 AM
 
 
nickwap
Veteran
Location: Berwick-upon-Tweed -ENGLAND not Scotland

I told Paul ( I think we are talking 'bout the same dude) he can use 55 since I use 90 that is as far away from me as poss. I thought you were going 2.4 gig? When I get my head around the price and how many RX's I will need to replace those on my 'fleet', thats what I am going to do. I think I will wait for a 'dedicated 2.4 gig set from JR, prob from the US

Nick

R50, R90, Synergy,Trex 600N, JR9303 2.4 now all I need is some skill!
11-11-2007 09:09 AM
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nivlek
Elite Veteran
Location: Norfolk England

I've purchased stuff from the States around thirty times , don't worry Mac_Man none of it was JR equipment .
Only once have the goods arrived without me getting charged by customs - other than goods below the value of £18 .
So I only purchase stuff if I'm still going to save a reasonable amount after paying all the charges .

At the end of the day , it gets dark .
11-11-2007 09:26 AM
 
 
Mark D
Heliman
Location: The Earth

Some one is blowing smoke!

As a frequent traveler to the US I have looked at quite a few X9303 radio's and they all have the CE sticker on both the TX and Rx. The same goes for the DX7.

Why are we getting into this argument if it’s got the CE stickers, It has been through a certified CE lab to test for compliance and passed, one of the tests is TX power surely?


What I feel is really going on is that the local shops and the suppliers are afraid that there will be a massive influx of radios bought from the US as we can get them half price.

Mark
11-11-2007 09:26 AM
 
 
nivlek
Elite Veteran
Location: Norfolk England

I seem to recall that there is/was some issue that in the States the permited transmitter output power is ten times higher than that permitted in the UK .

At the end of the day , it gets dark .
11-11-2007 09:29 AM
 
 
HakimG
Senior Heliman
Location: Germany

whats it like when someone brings it over on the plane? what are the chances of getting through?

any other loop holes?

___________________________________________________________
Acrobat SE and DX7
11-11-2007 09:32 AM
 
 
9387ASH
Elite Veteran
Location: UK

The problem is lack of understanding by the septics...... look at the DX7 fiasco.

All the sets in the USA AND in their manuals all say that its CE marked.... Spektrum/Horizon had to publish a "quack quack oops" on their website saying that some of their sets are incorrectly labelled.... ( some ??? )

The rules & regs are quite confusing and I think they took the assumption that as the Cypress & SiGe modules already have CE approval, it applies to the whole system. A fair assumption.... but... those of you who have installed a wireless network will know that you have to declare what region/country you are in. When you do this, it loads the operating parameters for your area into the chipsets so it (a) loads the correct frequency limits and (b) sets the correct power levels. Plus the FCC section that they had it tested to, does not correlate with the correct section in the EN regs over here.

I have spent the best part of 2 weeks talking to various test houses here in the UK looking at what is needed and at what cost and lead times to get these bloody things tested. My backlog of servicing is stacking up and if I didn't hate 2.4 GHz at the start.... I bleedin' loathe it now !!



11-11-2007 09:41 AM
 
 
Mark D
Heliman
Location: The Earth

If and only if it’s Quack Quack oops on then DX7 why is it not the same statement of the x9303 and what about all the plug-in modules?
Do then not have the same problem

Same chip set... Same antenna...No recall on them...interesting...do I smell a rat?
11-11-2007 09:54 AM
 
 
Mark D
Heliman
Location: The Earth

This link is to horizon's website for the x9303 and is the warrenty for the radio. Read the 2nd to last page..intresting[url=http://www.horizonhobby.com/ProdInfo/Files/JRP_X9303_Warranty.pdf]
11-11-2007 10:17 AM
 
 
9387ASH
Elite Veteran
Location: UK

Oh the joys of cut & paste.....

I have pointed this out to Horizon and am waiting a response.... if in doubt, give Horizon UK a call on the legality of the X9303 here in the UK.

Don't forget that Graupner, when they took the DX7, submitted it for testing found it to exceed the European power limits and they all had to be modified by Horizon (new firmware installed) before they could be sold.

The modules came after if I remember correctly.
11-11-2007 10:25 AM
 
 
Yug
rrProfessor
Location: UK. Herts

Have they made a blunder..........

Quote 

This product contains a radio transmitter with wireless
technology which has been tested and found to be
compliant with the applicable regulations governing a
radio transmitter in the 2.400GHz to 2.4835GHz frequency
range.
The following countries associated regulatory agencies
recognizing the noted certifications for this product as
authorized for sale and use are:
USA Canada Belgium
Denmark France Finland
Germany Italy Netherlands
Spain Sweden UK
Ireland Australia

Vegetable rights and Peace
11-11-2007 10:31 AM
 
 
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