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Aerobatic FAI F3C Contest > Rotor Tech 720 Scott Grays
 
 
ErichF
Key Veteran
Location: Odessa, FL 33556 (Tampa Area)

I just ordered a set of blades from Century.

These are the long awaited Scott Grays:



Has anyone else flown these yet? What are the differences between these blades and the previous editions of the RotorTechs?

Also, if anyone is interested, they still have some in stock.


Erich
11-09-2007 10:40 PM
 
 
electriciancarl
Veteran
Location: Mesa, Az.

Let us know what you think when you get them.

My surprise at how many people are for sale is only rivaled by my shock at how little they cost
11-09-2007 11:14 PM
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Spacey
Senior Heliman
Location: Pretoria, South Africa

Yup just recieved a set last week and flown it yesterday. Can't say much more than "Simply amazing". Obviously I can't comment much on the hovering side just yet as I'll have to get going on head setup again and headspeeds but the little hovering we did proved promising, their a little touchy hovering compared to the 680's I used to fly but obviously that's a quick fix. Aerobatics is jaw dropping, very fast, very stable, very predictable and excellent punch. You'll need some power to swing these and get the most out of them though. But when they get into the higher RPM's they'll make anyone look like a pro. Autos are silly...had a hard time getting the Sylphide down at the 4,5k' ASL I fly and that's not a common problem.

I've never used Rotortechs before though so I can't compare them with the older lighter blades that were available but from all the blades I've used (K&S, MSComposit, Radix FAI's, BBT's, SAB's, NHP's, and a few others) these are like well refined Whiskey to me on the rocks.

Centure better make sure they keep stock...pretty soon they'll be selling these like cupcakes at a primary school recess when the word gets out.
11-12-2007 09:11 AM
 
 
ErichF
Key Veteran
Location: Odessa, FL 33556 (Tampa Area)

Just got them today. Very nice finish; love the White and Red flashing. They should show up nice against a blue sky. I won't get to fly them until Sunday, tho...THANKS UPS for botching my Friday last week scheduled delivery

Oh well, it will give me something to get through the holiday with the folks, instead.

Erich
11-20-2007 01:12 AM
 
 
ErichF
Key Veteran
Location: Odessa, FL 33556 (Tampa Area)

Update on these blades is very positive.

I put about a gallon of fuel under these blades today, with a variety of wind conditions. Winds varied from calm to gusty 10 kts.

I swapped out these blades from DY Product 700s without requiring any tracking adjustments. The first flight I got a side to side wobble on the Caliber 90 at 1450-1550 RPM. The wobble cleared out way before reaching my forward flight RPM of 1900. I think it's something specific with the Caliber and my setup. In any case, I lowered the hover RPM to 1420, and the wobble was gone. I also loosened up the dampers on the head.

These blades have some weight. I don't have a gram scale at home, so I don't know the exact weight on them yet. What I do know is that it takes a little longer to spool them up, and they hang forever at the bottom of even my autos

Hovering was stable and predictive. Even in gusty air, the workload was not too bad, compared to the DYs I had been flying. I did notice a reduction in hover pitch, as is expected with blades 20mm longer and 1mm wider. In calm air, the Caliber was virtualy a flying gyroscope with these blades.

Upstairs, these things sing. Despite their longer span and wider chord, my YS91ST had no issues pulling full pitch passes. In fact, I added more Pitch AFR to get even more top end speed, which the YS91 obliged. I think these blades have much lower parasitic drag, because I couldn't get these speeds and this much pitch on the DYs.

To get straight rolls, I added a 5% mix of back elevator cyclic with aileron. Loops and pulls to vertical lines remain straight. The speed yeilds great vertical performance. I did have to increase my aileron cyclic rates, as these big heavy things slowed down my rolls quite a bit compared to the DYs. The rolling stall turn in AMA Class 3 was a bit rushed with my original rates.

The 180 auto has been my nemisis since I started AMA class 3. I think it's mostly because of the blades I was using. I was able to pull much more consistent autos with these blades, as the descent rate was lower, and the final approach control was much better. I could start slowing down and adding pitch much earlier than I could with the DYs. This resulted in a more stable, controlled approach to the pad, as opposed to the dive and pull approach I was used to.

These blades are a winner in my book, and I will continue to fly these for the upcoming season. They cost a bit more than some of the competition at $130 + shipping, but I feel it's worth it.

Erich
11-26-2007 01:03 AM
 
 
yapjy
Key Veteran
Location: Singapore

Just ordered one for my Vibe 90
11-26-2007 04:33 PM
 
 
electriciancarl
Veteran
Location: Mesa, Az.

Very nice Erich. Thanks for the review.

My surprise at how many people are for sale is only rivaled by my shock at how little they cost
11-26-2007 04:46 PM
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fergus
Veteran
Location: Ireland

Great review Erich. I have them on the way for my Joker2

Regards

Fergus
11-26-2007 05:43 PM
 
 
ErichF
Key Veteran
Location: Odessa, FL 33556 (Tampa Area)

Yapjy,

You may want to get another one, too

They work better together


Erich
11-26-2007 05:49 PM
 
 
yapjy
Key Veteran
Location: Singapore

Haha, I mean 1 pair
11-27-2007 01:53 AM
 
 
ErichF
Key Veteran
Location: Odessa, FL 33556 (Tampa Area)

bump
12-16-2007 03:39 AM
 
 
ErichF
Key Veteran
Location: Odessa, FL 33556 (Tampa Area)

New RotorTechs installed:





12-16-2007 03:46 AM
 
 
Kinger
Elite Veteran
Location: Columbus, OH

Puuuuuuuuuuurty.
12-16-2007 04:00 AM
 
 
oldboldpilot
Key Veteran
Location: Southern California

ErichF,

Sounds as if you have found an easy way to increase your scores!

Mr. Gray certainly knows what works, and his heli flies like a derned plank (tangent to the flight path), which is why I asked if that was the requirement - I can't get up enough speed to do that..

720's won't fit on my heli, but then my Hirobo 680 mother-of-pearl jobs might not give much away (except savings on cost ), at least I hope not, considering the cost.

But I don't find any F3C meets in So Cal, so I guess I'll never find out.

I'm a CD, and would be glad to do that work to create same, but I don't see anybody else flying F3C maneuvers in my neck of the woods, so probably not much chance.

I'm 70 by the way, gave up pattern and IMAC competition a long time ago (and dressage), but helis excite me, and I would take these thumbs which are on hands that some days cannot do a good job of writing my name and challenge the young bucks to do it better!

That's what helis can do for you..

Helis are Man's Defiance of the Laws of Nature - OCHC
12-16-2007 04:30 AM
 
 
ErichF
Key Veteran
Location: Odessa, FL 33556 (Tampa Area)

OBP, you should try to come to the Nats, if you can swing it. I sure learned a LOT that last two years I went.

Sometimes a venue just needs to be created, for contest pilots to come out of the woodwork. I know I have seen quite a few posts regarding contests on the West coast. Contests are a realization of the chicken or the egg concept. Without either, you don't get either.

That was my idea when I got my CD license three years ago to hold my very own contest here in Tampa. This will be the third annual event in march, and it seems the contest may grow by about five entrants. My fingers are crossed!
12-16-2007 04:41 AM
 
 
helicenter
Senior Heliman
Location: Winter Haven Fl.

Tampa

Erich

There are a few guys here at Mulberry that are looking forward to going to your event and that includes me.

Doug
12-16-2007 01:18 PM
 
 
ErichF
Key Veteran
Location: Odessa, FL 33556 (Tampa Area)

Awesome! We'll look forward to having you guys!
12-16-2007 01:29 PM
 
 
MattJen
Key Veteran
Location: UK,Gravesend, Kent

ErichF

Just wanted to say thanks for the post, very informative and interesting.

Can we get these blades over in the UK ? I apprecite you are in USA,

I am currently using SAB 690's. But am looking for a different more visable blade for when i pull up into the stall turns as i begin my run

Matt

I bought my Mother-in-law a chair for xmas, but she wouldn't plug it in
12-16-2007 04:26 PM
 
 
Dr.Ben
Elite Veteran
Location: Richmond, VA, USA

Coupla things........

The blades should be obtainable from a UK Century dealer.

When the SG version was first released, I emailed Phil Noel (who distributes them in CN), and asked him how the weights were coming in. He checked a few sets, and the weights were a hair over 200g. I have heard that they can be had heavier, but these two samples were no different from the all black RT720's. Other than the graphics package, which is nice, I'm not sure the blades are any different from the RT720's we've been flying for 3 (?) seasons. If this detail is wrong info, please correct me AND tell me what has changed on the SG version.

The price on the blades is a good as you will find on any contest FAI blade. $130 is pretty cheap. Go price some carbon DY's, KSJ's, or HiProducts, and you'll understand what I mean.

Ben Minor
12-16-2007 05:16 PM
 
 
synodontis
Veteran
Location: United Kingdom

Matt,

I asked Julie Fisher about them and she can confirm that they would be £99.99 for the Scott Grays, which is a lot more than the Americans/Canadians are paying, but what the hell. I still don't know if I want to use them yet, not being that good a pilot and all, and my collection of blades is just too much.

K&S blades in this country are about £150!!! And don't even get me started about the Hirobo Carbon blades.
12-18-2007 04:31 PM
 
 
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